Dual boot - what happens with “Install alongside windows” ??












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I was directed here from https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/5qowau/dual_boot_what_happens_with_install_alongside/



Here's the question I posted there:



I'm following on line guides on how to set up dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu. Here's a part I haven't found an answer to.



When I get these options:



* Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows
* Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu
* Something Else


I realize that choosing "Something else" will allow me to set up my swap, root, home, etc partitions as I wish. If I choose the first option though, are there default settings for swap, root, home, etc. that Ubuntu will use? How can I preview the actual disk setup that will be used if I choose the first option?



Also, I see that before starting the Ubuntu install, you need to free up disk space in Windows. That much I understand. But looking at some tutorials like this video (can't post more links here but see my reddit post), when you choose "install alongside windows" it then asks you to divide space between Windows and Ubuntu. See video at about 3:40. Why does it ask about dividing disk space here? If you don't use it all, will the remaining space stay unallocated? EDIT: Or does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space? And if so, is there a preferred method (allocate space in Windows or do it during the install), and why is it preferred?



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    "does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space" - Bingo but due to the fact that Linux NTFS support isn't perfect, I would always recommend you do it from Windows.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:55






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    I recommend that you allocate some free space in Windows, and select Install Alongside. It will automatically create a dynamic volume inside the unallocated space, containing one large partition which holds /, /boot and /home as well as a separate swap partition.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:58












  • 'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. It is an easy option, but does not give you much control of what is happening. The very fact the you are asking this question makes me think that you should use 'Something else' which means manual configuration. - You should use Windows to shrink the Windows partition, but leave it as unallocated space. Turn off fast boot. Then boot your Ubuntu intall disk and use gparted to create the partitions you want for Ubuntu. After that you start the installer.
    – sudodus
    Jan 30 '17 at 15:00












  • So @sudodus you say "'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. " Is there a way to preview what's going to happen?
    – eelephant
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:01






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    You need to have Windows fast start up or always on hibernation off. The Linux NTFS driver will not mount hibernated NTFS partitions so installer cannot even see that you have Windows. But auto install only gives you / (root) & swap, so you may still want Something Else install option. askubuntu.com/questions/843153/…
    – oldfred
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:40
















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I was directed here from https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/5qowau/dual_boot_what_happens_with_install_alongside/



Here's the question I posted there:



I'm following on line guides on how to set up dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu. Here's a part I haven't found an answer to.



When I get these options:



* Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows
* Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu
* Something Else


I realize that choosing "Something else" will allow me to set up my swap, root, home, etc partitions as I wish. If I choose the first option though, are there default settings for swap, root, home, etc. that Ubuntu will use? How can I preview the actual disk setup that will be used if I choose the first option?



Also, I see that before starting the Ubuntu install, you need to free up disk space in Windows. That much I understand. But looking at some tutorials like this video (can't post more links here but see my reddit post), when you choose "install alongside windows" it then asks you to divide space between Windows and Ubuntu. See video at about 3:40. Why does it ask about dividing disk space here? If you don't use it all, will the remaining space stay unallocated? EDIT: Or does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space? And if so, is there a preferred method (allocate space in Windows or do it during the install), and why is it preferred?



TY!










share|improve this question


















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    "does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space" - Bingo but due to the fact that Linux NTFS support isn't perfect, I would always recommend you do it from Windows.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:55






  • 2




    I recommend that you allocate some free space in Windows, and select Install Alongside. It will automatically create a dynamic volume inside the unallocated space, containing one large partition which holds /, /boot and /home as well as a separate swap partition.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:58












  • 'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. It is an easy option, but does not give you much control of what is happening. The very fact the you are asking this question makes me think that you should use 'Something else' which means manual configuration. - You should use Windows to shrink the Windows partition, but leave it as unallocated space. Turn off fast boot. Then boot your Ubuntu intall disk and use gparted to create the partitions you want for Ubuntu. After that you start the installer.
    – sudodus
    Jan 30 '17 at 15:00












  • So @sudodus you say "'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. " Is there a way to preview what's going to happen?
    – eelephant
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:01






  • 2




    You need to have Windows fast start up or always on hibernation off. The Linux NTFS driver will not mount hibernated NTFS partitions so installer cannot even see that you have Windows. But auto install only gives you / (root) & swap, so you may still want Something Else install option. askubuntu.com/questions/843153/…
    – oldfred
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:40














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I was directed here from https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/5qowau/dual_boot_what_happens_with_install_alongside/



Here's the question I posted there:



I'm following on line guides on how to set up dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu. Here's a part I haven't found an answer to.



When I get these options:



* Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows
* Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu
* Something Else


I realize that choosing "Something else" will allow me to set up my swap, root, home, etc partitions as I wish. If I choose the first option though, are there default settings for swap, root, home, etc. that Ubuntu will use? How can I preview the actual disk setup that will be used if I choose the first option?



Also, I see that before starting the Ubuntu install, you need to free up disk space in Windows. That much I understand. But looking at some tutorials like this video (can't post more links here but see my reddit post), when you choose "install alongside windows" it then asks you to divide space between Windows and Ubuntu. See video at about 3:40. Why does it ask about dividing disk space here? If you don't use it all, will the remaining space stay unallocated? EDIT: Or does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space? And if so, is there a preferred method (allocate space in Windows or do it during the install), and why is it preferred?



TY!










share|improve this question













I was directed here from https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/5qowau/dual_boot_what_happens_with_install_alongside/



Here's the question I posted there:



I'm following on line guides on how to set up dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu. Here's a part I haven't found an answer to.



When I get these options:



* Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows
* Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu
* Something Else


I realize that choosing "Something else" will allow me to set up my swap, root, home, etc partitions as I wish. If I choose the first option though, are there default settings for swap, root, home, etc. that Ubuntu will use? How can I preview the actual disk setup that will be used if I choose the first option?



Also, I see that before starting the Ubuntu install, you need to free up disk space in Windows. That much I understand. But looking at some tutorials like this video (can't post more links here but see my reddit post), when you choose "install alongside windows" it then asks you to divide space between Windows and Ubuntu. See video at about 3:40. Why does it ask about dividing disk space here? If you don't use it all, will the remaining space stay unallocated? EDIT: Or does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space? And if so, is there a preferred method (allocate space in Windows or do it during the install), and why is it preferred?



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  • 3




    "does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space" - Bingo but due to the fact that Linux NTFS support isn't perfect, I would always recommend you do it from Windows.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:55






  • 2




    I recommend that you allocate some free space in Windows, and select Install Alongside. It will automatically create a dynamic volume inside the unallocated space, containing one large partition which holds /, /boot and /home as well as a separate swap partition.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:58












  • 'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. It is an easy option, but does not give you much control of what is happening. The very fact the you are asking this question makes me think that you should use 'Something else' which means manual configuration. - You should use Windows to shrink the Windows partition, but leave it as unallocated space. Turn off fast boot. Then boot your Ubuntu intall disk and use gparted to create the partitions you want for Ubuntu. After that you start the installer.
    – sudodus
    Jan 30 '17 at 15:00












  • So @sudodus you say "'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. " Is there a way to preview what's going to happen?
    – eelephant
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:01






  • 2




    You need to have Windows fast start up or always on hibernation off. The Linux NTFS driver will not mount hibernated NTFS partitions so installer cannot even see that you have Windows. But auto install only gives you / (root) & swap, so you may still want Something Else install option. askubuntu.com/questions/843153/…
    – oldfred
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:40














  • 3




    "does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space" - Bingo but due to the fact that Linux NTFS support isn't perfect, I would always recommend you do it from Windows.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:55






  • 2




    I recommend that you allocate some free space in Windows, and select Install Alongside. It will automatically create a dynamic volume inside the unallocated space, containing one large partition which holds /, /boot and /home as well as a separate swap partition.
    – Android Dev
    Jan 30 '17 at 14:58












  • 'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. It is an easy option, but does not give you much control of what is happening. The very fact the you are asking this question makes me think that you should use 'Something else' which means manual configuration. - You should use Windows to shrink the Windows partition, but leave it as unallocated space. Turn off fast boot. Then boot your Ubuntu intall disk and use gparted to create the partitions you want for Ubuntu. After that you start the installer.
    – sudodus
    Jan 30 '17 at 15:00












  • So @sudodus you say "'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. " Is there a way to preview what's going to happen?
    – eelephant
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:01






  • 2




    You need to have Windows fast start up or always on hibernation off. The Linux NTFS driver will not mount hibernated NTFS partitions so installer cannot even see that you have Windows. But auto install only gives you / (root) & swap, so you may still want Something Else install option. askubuntu.com/questions/843153/…
    – oldfred
    Jan 30 '17 at 16:40








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"does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space" - Bingo but due to the fact that Linux NTFS support isn't perfect, I would always recommend you do it from Windows.
– Android Dev
Jan 30 '17 at 14:55




"does this option only show up if you didn't allocate free space" - Bingo but due to the fact that Linux NTFS support isn't perfect, I would always recommend you do it from Windows.
– Android Dev
Jan 30 '17 at 14:55




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2




I recommend that you allocate some free space in Windows, and select Install Alongside. It will automatically create a dynamic volume inside the unallocated space, containing one large partition which holds /, /boot and /home as well as a separate swap partition.
– Android Dev
Jan 30 '17 at 14:58






I recommend that you allocate some free space in Windows, and select Install Alongside. It will automatically create a dynamic volume inside the unallocated space, containing one large partition which holds /, /boot and /home as well as a separate swap partition.
– Android Dev
Jan 30 '17 at 14:58














'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. It is an easy option, but does not give you much control of what is happening. The very fact the you are asking this question makes me think that you should use 'Something else' which means manual configuration. - You should use Windows to shrink the Windows partition, but leave it as unallocated space. Turn off fast boot. Then boot your Ubuntu intall disk and use gparted to create the partitions you want for Ubuntu. After that you start the installer.
– sudodus
Jan 30 '17 at 15:00






'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. It is an easy option, but does not give you much control of what is happening. The very fact the you are asking this question makes me think that you should use 'Something else' which means manual configuration. - You should use Windows to shrink the Windows partition, but leave it as unallocated space. Turn off fast boot. Then boot your Ubuntu intall disk and use gparted to create the partitions you want for Ubuntu. After that you start the installer.
– sudodus
Jan 30 '17 at 15:00














So @sudodus you say "'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. " Is there a way to preview what's going to happen?
– eelephant
Jan 30 '17 at 16:01




So @sudodus you say "'Install alongside' will do one of a few actions depending on the partition structure. " Is there a way to preview what's going to happen?
– eelephant
Jan 30 '17 at 16:01




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You need to have Windows fast start up or always on hibernation off. The Linux NTFS driver will not mount hibernated NTFS partitions so installer cannot even see that you have Windows. But auto install only gives you / (root) & swap, so you may still want Something Else install option. askubuntu.com/questions/843153/…
– oldfred
Jan 30 '17 at 16:40




You need to have Windows fast start up or always on hibernation off. The Linux NTFS driver will not mount hibernated NTFS partitions so installer cannot even see that you have Windows. But auto install only gives you / (root) & swap, so you may still want Something Else install option. askubuntu.com/questions/843153/…
– oldfred
Jan 30 '17 at 16:40










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It doesn't look like there's a way to preview the partitions setup when you choose to "Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows".



I just chose that option, clicked "Continue", and crossed my fingers (I was trying to dual boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu 16.04). I was worried at first Ubuntu would overwrite my Windows recovery partitions, but fortunately, Ubuntu installed itself exactly into the free space I had allocated for it with Windows disk manager (I just followed online tutorials and shrunk my Windows disk); specifically it created one swap partition (same size as my RAM) and another partition for root/home (taking up the rest of the free space). Exactly what I wanted!






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  • I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
    – Christopher Francisco
    Dec 14 '17 at 14:45











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It doesn't look like there's a way to preview the partitions setup when you choose to "Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows".



I just chose that option, clicked "Continue", and crossed my fingers (I was trying to dual boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu 16.04). I was worried at first Ubuntu would overwrite my Windows recovery partitions, but fortunately, Ubuntu installed itself exactly into the free space I had allocated for it with Windows disk manager (I just followed online tutorials and shrunk my Windows disk); specifically it created one swap partition (same size as my RAM) and another partition for root/home (taking up the rest of the free space). Exactly what I wanted!






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  • I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
    – Christopher Francisco
    Dec 14 '17 at 14:45
















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It doesn't look like there's a way to preview the partitions setup when you choose to "Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows".



I just chose that option, clicked "Continue", and crossed my fingers (I was trying to dual boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu 16.04). I was worried at first Ubuntu would overwrite my Windows recovery partitions, but fortunately, Ubuntu installed itself exactly into the free space I had allocated for it with Windows disk manager (I just followed online tutorials and shrunk my Windows disk); specifically it created one swap partition (same size as my RAM) and another partition for root/home (taking up the rest of the free space). Exactly what I wanted!






share|improve this answer





















  • I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
    – Christopher Francisco
    Dec 14 '17 at 14:45














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It doesn't look like there's a way to preview the partitions setup when you choose to "Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows".



I just chose that option, clicked "Continue", and crossed my fingers (I was trying to dual boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu 16.04). I was worried at first Ubuntu would overwrite my Windows recovery partitions, but fortunately, Ubuntu installed itself exactly into the free space I had allocated for it with Windows disk manager (I just followed online tutorials and shrunk my Windows disk); specifically it created one swap partition (same size as my RAM) and another partition for root/home (taking up the rest of the free space). Exactly what I wanted!






share|improve this answer












It doesn't look like there's a way to preview the partitions setup when you choose to "Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows".



I just chose that option, clicked "Continue", and crossed my fingers (I was trying to dual boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu 16.04). I was worried at first Ubuntu would overwrite my Windows recovery partitions, but fortunately, Ubuntu installed itself exactly into the free space I had allocated for it with Windows disk manager (I just followed online tutorials and shrunk my Windows disk); specifically it created one swap partition (same size as my RAM) and another partition for root/home (taking up the rest of the free space). Exactly what I wanted!







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  • I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
    – Christopher Francisco
    Dec 14 '17 at 14:45


















  • I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
    – Christopher Francisco
    Dec 14 '17 at 14:45
















I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
– Christopher Francisco
Dec 14 '17 at 14:45




I trusted you, but Ubuntu failed to create the swap and now my windows won't show up on boot menu anymore. RIP. For new users, never select install alongside windows.
– Christopher Francisco
Dec 14 '17 at 14:45


















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