Subspace of a vector space problem












2












$begingroup$


So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    4 hours ago
















2












$begingroup$


So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    4 hours ago














2












2








2





$begingroup$


So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!







linear-algebra






share|cite|improve this question















share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited 5 hours ago









José Carlos Santos

155k22124227




155k22124227










asked 5 hours ago









PetarPetar

182




182








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    4 hours ago














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    4 hours ago








1




1




$begingroup$
Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
5 hours ago












$begingroup$
Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
4 hours ago












$begingroup$
Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
$endgroup$
– Petar
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
$endgroup$
– Petar
4 hours ago










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















3












$begingroup$

Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    3 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! I understand it now.
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    yes i did it now ,tnx
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    2 hours ago



















2












$begingroup$

Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













    Your Answer





    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
    });
    });
    }, "mathjax-editing");

    StackExchange.ready(function() {
    var channelOptions = {
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "69"
    };
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
    createEditor();
    });
    }
    else {
    createEditor();
    }
    });

    function createEditor() {
    StackExchange.prepareEditor({
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: true,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: 10,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader: {
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    },
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    });


    }
    });














    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function () {
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3081040%2fsubspace-of-a-vector-space-problem%23new-answer', 'question_page');
    }
    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes








    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    3












    $begingroup$

    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      5 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      yes i did it now ,tnx
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      2 hours ago
















    3












    $begingroup$

    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      5 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      yes i did it now ,tnx
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      2 hours ago














    3












    3








    3





    $begingroup$

    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.







    share|cite|improve this answer












    share|cite|improve this answer



    share|cite|improve this answer










    answered 5 hours ago









    José Carlos SantosJosé Carlos Santos

    155k22124227




    155k22124227












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      5 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      yes i did it now ,tnx
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      2 hours ago


















    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      5 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      yes i did it now ,tnx
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      2 hours ago
















    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    5 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    5 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    3 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    3 hours ago














    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! I understand it now.
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    3 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! I understand it now.
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    3 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    3 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    3 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    yes i did it now ,tnx
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    2 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    yes i did it now ,tnx
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    2 hours ago











    2












    $begingroup$

    Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$


















      2












      $begingroup$

      Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






      share|cite|improve this answer









      $endgroup$
















        2












        2








        2





        $begingroup$

        Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.







        share|cite|improve this answer












        share|cite|improve this answer



        share|cite|improve this answer










        answered 5 hours ago









        Shubham JohriShubham Johri

        4,780717




        4,780717






























            draft saved

            draft discarded




















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid



            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


            Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3081040%2fsubspace-of-a-vector-space-problem%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            How did Captain America manage to do this?

            迪纳利

            南乌拉尔铁路局