Playing ONE triplet (not three)
Has anybody ever seen playing only ONE or TWO triplets instead of three? Can anyone tell me if it's even possible and if anybody tried to do it? I guess it would be hard to count, because:
In 4/4 at 30bpm, quarter note triplets lasts 0,66s for each triplet note. Then if we were to play only one triplet note and pause for two next we would play for 0,66 sec and then pause for 1,34 sec (the entire duration of a half note, which is 2 seconds in this example).
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Has anybody ever seen playing only ONE or TWO triplets instead of three? Can anyone tell me if it's even possible and if anybody tried to do it? I guess it would be hard to count, because:
In 4/4 at 30bpm, quarter note triplets lasts 0,66s for each triplet note. Then if we were to play only one triplet note and pause for two next we would play for 0,66 sec and then pause for 1,34 sec (the entire duration of a half note, which is 2 seconds in this example).
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If you mean play only one note of a three note triplet, this happens all the time.
– Todd Wilcox
10 hours ago
As I recall, the second movement of Shostakovich's second piano concerto has a whole bunch of triplets that are rest-note-note.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
Do you mean one or two notes of the triplet? or a triplet followed by a another grouping?
– ggcg
6 hours ago
In "London Kid" by J.M. Jarre, triplets are tied to the preceding note. Does this count, too?
– rexkogitans
5 hours ago
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Has anybody ever seen playing only ONE or TWO triplets instead of three? Can anyone tell me if it's even possible and if anybody tried to do it? I guess it would be hard to count, because:
In 4/4 at 30bpm, quarter note triplets lasts 0,66s for each triplet note. Then if we were to play only one triplet note and pause for two next we would play for 0,66 sec and then pause for 1,34 sec (the entire duration of a half note, which is 2 seconds in this example).
theory tempo
edited 9 hours ago
user45266
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asked 10 hours ago
Raven322Raven322
364
Has anybody ever seen playing only ONE or TWO triplets instead of three? Can anyone tell me if it's even possible and if anybody tried to do it? I guess it would be hard to count, because:
In 4/4 at 30bpm, quarter note triplets lasts 0,66s for each triplet note. Then if we were to play only one triplet note and pause for two next we would play for 0,66 sec and then pause for 1,34 sec (the entire duration of a half note, which is 2 seconds in this example).
theory tempo
theory tempo
edited 9 hours ago
user45266
3,4201734
asked 10 hours ago
Raven322Raven322
364
edited 9 hours ago
user45266
3,4201734
asked 10 hours ago
Raven322Raven322
364
edited 9 hours ago
user45266
3,4201734
edited 9 hours ago
user45266
3,4201734
edited 9 hours ago
user45266
3,4201734
3,4201734
asked 10 hours ago
Raven322Raven322
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Raven322Raven322
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If you mean play only one note of a three note triplet, this happens all the time.
– Todd Wilcox
10 hours ago
As I recall, the second movement of Shostakovich's second piano concerto has a whole bunch of triplets that are rest-note-note.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
Do you mean one or two notes of the triplet? or a triplet followed by a another grouping?
– ggcg
6 hours ago
In "London Kid" by J.M. Jarre, triplets are tied to the preceding note. Does this count, too?
– rexkogitans
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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If you mean play only one note of a three note triplet, this happens all the time.
– Todd Wilcox
10 hours ago
As I recall, the second movement of Shostakovich's second piano concerto has a whole bunch of triplets that are rest-note-note.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
Do you mean one or two notes of the triplet? or a triplet followed by a another grouping?
– ggcg
6 hours ago
In "London Kid" by J.M. Jarre, triplets are tied to the preceding note. Does this count, too?
– rexkogitans
5 hours ago
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If you mean play only one note of a three note triplet, this happens all the time.
– Todd Wilcox
10 hours ago
If you mean play only one note of a three note triplet, this happens all the time.
– Todd Wilcox
10 hours ago
As I recall, the second movement of Shostakovich's second piano concerto has a whole bunch of triplets that are rest-note-note.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
As I recall, the second movement of Shostakovich's second piano concerto has a whole bunch of triplets that are rest-note-note.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
Do you mean one or two notes of the triplet? or a triplet followed by a another grouping?
– ggcg
6 hours ago
Do you mean one or two notes of the triplet? or a triplet followed by a another grouping?
– ggcg
6 hours ago
In "London Kid" by J.M. Jarre, triplets are tied to the preceding note. Does this count, too?
– rexkogitans
5 hours ago
In "London Kid" by J.M. Jarre, triplets are tied to the preceding note. Does this count, too?
– rexkogitans
5 hours ago
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Of course, playing only one of them with no other context wouldn't sound like triplets, no matter what the note lengths were.
As already mentioned, playing the 1st & 3rd triplet gives you a swing beat.
Playing or even just emphasising only the 2nd triplet is more rare.
I can think of no finer example than this..
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
Long quiet intro, track starts at about 30s
Finest use of the 2nd triplet I've ever heard.
The overall 'backbeat' of the track is distinctly a 'swing' 1st & 3rd triplets in heavy simple rotation.
However, the hi-hat pattern constantly emphasises the 2nd triplet, as does the rhythm guitar that is introduced in the second verse.
The [not too frequent] drum fills are worth waiting for as they also sit heavily on the 2nd triplet.
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
1
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
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Playing three triplets per beat is the norm for triplets, but playing two is also fairly common. It amounts to swing timing, where the triplets are split into a double and a single. One would be possible, but that would have to be exactly the right length, and if made staccato wouldn't make a lot of sense.
And certainly any playing wouldn't be helped by timing as you suggest. With a stopwatch? It's not how most music gets played, because that's counted and felt with the pulse of the music. The bpm signifies how quick that pulse will be.
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
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Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
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Of course, playing only one of them with no other context wouldn't sound like triplets, no matter what the note lengths were.
As already mentioned, playing the 1st & 3rd triplet gives you a swing beat.
Playing or even just emphasising only the 2nd triplet is more rare.
I can think of no finer example than this..
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
Long quiet intro, track starts at about 30s
Finest use of the 2nd triplet I've ever heard.
The overall 'backbeat' of the track is distinctly a 'swing' 1st & 3rd triplets in heavy simple rotation.
However, the hi-hat pattern constantly emphasises the 2nd triplet, as does the rhythm guitar that is introduced in the second verse.
The [not too frequent] drum fills are worth waiting for as they also sit heavily on the 2nd triplet.
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
1
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
add a comment |
Of course, playing only one of them with no other context wouldn't sound like triplets, no matter what the note lengths were.
As already mentioned, playing the 1st & 3rd triplet gives you a swing beat.
Playing or even just emphasising only the 2nd triplet is more rare.
I can think of no finer example than this..
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
Long quiet intro, track starts at about 30s
Finest use of the 2nd triplet I've ever heard.
The overall 'backbeat' of the track is distinctly a 'swing' 1st & 3rd triplets in heavy simple rotation.
However, the hi-hat pattern constantly emphasises the 2nd triplet, as does the rhythm guitar that is introduced in the second verse.
The [not too frequent] drum fills are worth waiting for as they also sit heavily on the 2nd triplet.
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
1
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
add a comment |
Of course, playing only one of them with no other context wouldn't sound like triplets, no matter what the note lengths were.
As already mentioned, playing the 1st & 3rd triplet gives you a swing beat.
Playing or even just emphasising only the 2nd triplet is more rare.
I can think of no finer example than this..
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
Long quiet intro, track starts at about 30s
Finest use of the 2nd triplet I've ever heard.
The overall 'backbeat' of the track is distinctly a 'swing' 1st & 3rd triplets in heavy simple rotation.
However, the hi-hat pattern constantly emphasises the 2nd triplet, as does the rhythm guitar that is introduced in the second verse.
The [not too frequent] drum fills are worth waiting for as they also sit heavily on the 2nd triplet.
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
Of course, playing only one of them with no other context wouldn't sound like triplets, no matter what the note lengths were.
As already mentioned, playing the 1st & 3rd triplet gives you a swing beat.
Playing or even just emphasising only the 2nd triplet is more rare.
I can think of no finer example than this..
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
Long quiet intro, track starts at about 30s
Finest use of the 2nd triplet I've ever heard.
The overall 'backbeat' of the track is distinctly a 'swing' 1st & 3rd triplets in heavy simple rotation.
However, the hi-hat pattern constantly emphasises the 2nd triplet, as does the rhythm guitar that is introduced in the second verse.
The [not too frequent] drum fills are worth waiting for as they also sit heavily on the 2nd triplet.
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
edited 9 hours ago
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
answered 10 hours ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,04821832
8,04821832
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
1
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
add a comment |
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
1
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 for the excellent example. It may deserve a mention that this uses eighth triplets (three eighths in the time of two), rather than the quarter triplets that the OP uses as an example.
– Jos
8 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
+1 You helped, thank you :)
– Raven322
7 hours ago
1
1
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
@Jos - sorry, you're right - I just don't know any example better for showing "how to play with the emphasis in triplets". Same applies at any tempo, 4s 8s or even 16s, but this one is just so on the money for me.
– Tetsujin
6 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
To be even more pedantic: most jazz music that is called swing does not use exact triplets, but something in between straight eighths (1:1) and two-triplets-to-one (2:1). Listen, for example, to the melody of Donna Lee. Blues, however, like "Black Velvet" mentioned by @gidds below, typically uses triplets, as does "Everybody wants to rule the world".
– Jos
2 hours ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
Unfortunately, the uploader has not made this video available in the US. There are other copies on YouTube, but none are official, so I'm hesitant to link them. (I wonder why the official channel doesn't release it in the US. It seems weird.)
– trlkly
2 mins ago
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Playing three triplets per beat is the norm for triplets, but playing two is also fairly common. It amounts to swing timing, where the triplets are split into a double and a single. One would be possible, but that would have to be exactly the right length, and if made staccato wouldn't make a lot of sense.
And certainly any playing wouldn't be helped by timing as you suggest. With a stopwatch? It's not how most music gets played, because that's counted and felt with the pulse of the music. The bpm signifies how quick that pulse will be.
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Playing three triplets per beat is the norm for triplets, but playing two is also fairly common. It amounts to swing timing, where the triplets are split into a double and a single. One would be possible, but that would have to be exactly the right length, and if made staccato wouldn't make a lot of sense.
And certainly any playing wouldn't be helped by timing as you suggest. With a stopwatch? It's not how most music gets played, because that's counted and felt with the pulse of the music. The bpm signifies how quick that pulse will be.
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Playing three triplets per beat is the norm for triplets, but playing two is also fairly common. It amounts to swing timing, where the triplets are split into a double and a single. One would be possible, but that would have to be exactly the right length, and if made staccato wouldn't make a lot of sense.
And certainly any playing wouldn't be helped by timing as you suggest. With a stopwatch? It's not how most music gets played, because that's counted and felt with the pulse of the music. The bpm signifies how quick that pulse will be.
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
Playing three triplets per beat is the norm for triplets, but playing two is also fairly common. It amounts to swing timing, where the triplets are split into a double and a single. One would be possible, but that would have to be exactly the right length, and if made staccato wouldn't make a lot of sense.
And certainly any playing wouldn't be helped by timing as you suggest. With a stopwatch? It's not how most music gets played, because that's counted and felt with the pulse of the music. The bpm signifies how quick that pulse will be.
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
answered 10 hours ago
TimTim
102k10107259
102k10107259
Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
Perhaps an example of playing 1st and 3rd (but not 2nd) would be the bassline to 'Black Velvet’ by Alannah Myles?
– gidds
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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If you mean play only one note of a three note triplet, this happens all the time.
– Todd Wilcox
10 hours ago
As I recall, the second movement of Shostakovich's second piano concerto has a whole bunch of triplets that are rest-note-note.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
Do you mean one or two notes of the triplet? or a triplet followed by a another grouping?
– ggcg
6 hours ago
In "London Kid" by J.M. Jarre, triplets are tied to the preceding note. Does this count, too?
– rexkogitans
5 hours ago