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In the AL9910 LED driver datasheet it shows a part, which I assume is a varistor, is it so? Varistors are shown to be connected across L and N lines, but here it is connected in series. Please explain the operation principle.



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    To limit surge currents thru the diodes, as C1 is charged. As the varistor heats up, its resistance drop. This behavior should greatly increase the lifespan of such systems; the diodes are less stressed.
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    But that's definitely not named varistor. Those are overvoltage shunt devices. Nothing to do with what you see in your circuit
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    I believe the source of confusion is that the diagram shows the symbol of an MOV instead of a (NTC) Varistor.
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In the AL9910 LED driver datasheet it shows a part, which I assume is a varistor, is it so? Varistors are shown to be connected across L and N lines, but here it is connected in series. Please explain the operation principle.



enter image description here










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    To limit surge currents thru the diodes, as C1 is charged. As the varistor heats up, its resistance drop. This behavior should greatly increase the lifespan of such systems; the diodes are less stressed.
    $endgroup$
    – analogsystemsrf
    yesterday






  • 3




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    But that's definitely not named varistor. Those are overvoltage shunt devices. Nothing to do with what you see in your circuit
    $endgroup$
    – carloc
    yesterday






  • 2




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    I believe the source of confusion is that the diagram shows the symbol of an MOV instead of a (NTC) Varistor.
    $endgroup$
    – Bob S.
    yesterday














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In the AL9910 LED driver datasheet it shows a part, which I assume is a varistor, is it so? Varistors are shown to be connected across L and N lines, but here it is connected in series. Please explain the operation principle.



enter image description here










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In the AL9910 LED driver datasheet it shows a part, which I assume is a varistor, is it so? Varistors are shown to be connected across L and N lines, but here it is connected in series. Please explain the operation principle.



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    To limit surge currents thru the diodes, as C1 is charged. As the varistor heats up, its resistance drop. This behavior should greatly increase the lifespan of such systems; the diodes are less stressed.
    $endgroup$
    – analogsystemsrf
    yesterday






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    But that's definitely not named varistor. Those are overvoltage shunt devices. Nothing to do with what you see in your circuit
    $endgroup$
    – carloc
    yesterday






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    I believe the source of confusion is that the diagram shows the symbol of an MOV instead of a (NTC) Varistor.
    $endgroup$
    – Bob S.
    yesterday














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    To limit surge currents thru the diodes, as C1 is charged. As the varistor heats up, its resistance drop. This behavior should greatly increase the lifespan of such systems; the diodes are less stressed.
    $endgroup$
    – analogsystemsrf
    yesterday






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    But that's definitely not named varistor. Those are overvoltage shunt devices. Nothing to do with what you see in your circuit
    $endgroup$
    – carloc
    yesterday






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    I believe the source of confusion is that the diagram shows the symbol of an MOV instead of a (NTC) Varistor.
    $endgroup$
    – Bob S.
    yesterday








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$begingroup$
To limit surge currents thru the diodes, as C1 is charged. As the varistor heats up, its resistance drop. This behavior should greatly increase the lifespan of such systems; the diodes are less stressed.
$endgroup$
– analogsystemsrf
yesterday




$begingroup$
To limit surge currents thru the diodes, as C1 is charged. As the varistor heats up, its resistance drop. This behavior should greatly increase the lifespan of such systems; the diodes are less stressed.
$endgroup$
– analogsystemsrf
yesterday




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But that's definitely not named varistor. Those are overvoltage shunt devices. Nothing to do with what you see in your circuit
$endgroup$
– carloc
yesterday




$begingroup$
But that's definitely not named varistor. Those are overvoltage shunt devices. Nothing to do with what you see in your circuit
$endgroup$
– carloc
yesterday




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I believe the source of confusion is that the diagram shows the symbol of an MOV instead of a (NTC) Varistor.
$endgroup$
– Bob S.
yesterday




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I believe the source of confusion is that the diagram shows the symbol of an MOV instead of a (NTC) Varistor.
$endgroup$
– Bob S.
yesterday










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This is an NTC current limiting resistor. When plugging in the circuit, the NTC is cold and a bad conductor - this is limiting the charge current to the input capacitor. When the NTC is hot from the power dissipation it will become a good conductor with low losses.






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    It’s likely a negative temperature coefficient device used to limit inrush current into the bulk storage capacitor and prevent fuses blowing or breakers tripping. It’s quite a common thing to implement.



    Once the device warms up it’s resistance lowers and thus the peak current at initial switch on is significantly reduced.






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      This is an NTC current limiting resistor. When plugging in the circuit, the NTC is cold and a bad conductor - this is limiting the charge current to the input capacitor. When the NTC is hot from the power dissipation it will become a good conductor with low losses.






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        This is an NTC current limiting resistor. When plugging in the circuit, the NTC is cold and a bad conductor - this is limiting the charge current to the input capacitor. When the NTC is hot from the power dissipation it will become a good conductor with low losses.






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          This is an NTC current limiting resistor. When plugging in the circuit, the NTC is cold and a bad conductor - this is limiting the charge current to the input capacitor. When the NTC is hot from the power dissipation it will become a good conductor with low losses.






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          This is an NTC current limiting resistor. When plugging in the circuit, the NTC is cold and a bad conductor - this is limiting the charge current to the input capacitor. When the NTC is hot from the power dissipation it will become a good conductor with low losses.







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              It’s likely a negative temperature coefficient device used to limit inrush current into the bulk storage capacitor and prevent fuses blowing or breakers tripping. It’s quite a common thing to implement.



              Once the device warms up it’s resistance lowers and thus the peak current at initial switch on is significantly reduced.






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                It’s likely a negative temperature coefficient device used to limit inrush current into the bulk storage capacitor and prevent fuses blowing or breakers tripping. It’s quite a common thing to implement.



                Once the device warms up it’s resistance lowers and thus the peak current at initial switch on is significantly reduced.






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                  It’s likely a negative temperature coefficient device used to limit inrush current into the bulk storage capacitor and prevent fuses blowing or breakers tripping. It’s quite a common thing to implement.



                  Once the device warms up it’s resistance lowers and thus the peak current at initial switch on is significantly reduced.






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                  It’s likely a negative temperature coefficient device used to limit inrush current into the bulk storage capacitor and prevent fuses blowing or breakers tripping. It’s quite a common thing to implement.



                  Once the device warms up it’s resistance lowers and thus the peak current at initial switch on is significantly reduced.







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