Set CPU temperature throttle threshold on Ubuntu/Thinkpad












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I receive following error messages a couple of times per hour:



08.03.18 21:27  kernel  CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal


Hardware spec:



ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2nd
N1NET33W (1.20 )
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz
Production date 2017.11


Software:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 17.10
Release: 17.10
Codename: artful
Linux 4.13.0-36-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 16 20:07:48 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Bios:



I set both battery and AC to performance in my BIOS settings, the BIOS is up to date.



What is the problem



The problem is that a threshold of CPU temperature is hit quite too early, it happens around 75°C, even though the CPU is allowed to reach up to 100°C. The temperature never goes higher than 85°C. So the CPU power gets throttled so fast.



I don't know if I may have a manufacturer hardware issue regarding inadequate thermal paste, or if it is software related. Before I send it to Lenovo I want to be sure it's not a self-made problem.



Stats



When I run a stress test



stress -c 4 -t 300


the error message happens almost instantly.



i7z gives following output:



Cpu speed from cpuinfo 2903.00Mhz
cpuinfo might be wrong if cpufreq is enabled. To guess correctly try estimating via tsc
Linux's inbuilt cpu_khz code emulated now
True Frequency (without accounting Turbo) 2903 MHz
CPU Multiplier 29x || Bus clock frequency (BCLK) 100.10 MHz

Socket [0] - [physical cores=2, logical cores=4, max online cores ever=2]
TURBO ENABLED on 2 Cores, Hyper Threading ON
Max Frequency without considering Turbo 3003.10 MHz (100.10 x [30])
Max TURBO Multiplier (if Enabled) with 1/2/3/4 Cores is 39x/39x/39x/39x
Real Current Frequency 3187.97 MHz [100.10 x 31.85] (Max of below)
Core [core-id] :Actual Freq (Mult.) C0% Halt(C1)% C3 % C6 % Temp VCore
Core 1 [0]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 85 1.0037
Core 2 [1]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 84 1.0037


C0 = Processor running without halting
C1 = Processor running with halts (States >C0 are power saver modes with cores idling)
C3 = Cores running with PLL turned off and core cache turned off
C6, C7 = Everything in C3 + core state saved to last level cache, C7 is deeper than C6
Above values in table are in percentage over the last 1 sec
[core-id] refers to core-id number in /proc/cpuinfo
'Garbage Values' message printed when garbage values are read
Ctrl+C to exit


As said, it never exceeds the 85 Temp, yet the CPU gets throttled.



sensors shows following output



iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +30.0°C

pch_skylake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +52.0°C

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +56.0°C (crit = +98.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 5859 RPM

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +58.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)


But the high-setting probably has no effect.



thermald



So I've played around with thermald then.



This is my adjusted configuration that I've found here:



<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ThermalConfiguration>
<Platform>
<Name>Use Fan control first then CPU throttle</Name>
<ProductName>*</ProductName>
<Preference>QUIET</Preference>
<ThermalZones>
<ThermalZone>
<Type>x86_pkg_temp</Type>
<TripPoints>
<TripPoint>
<SensorType>x86_pkg_temp</SensorType>
<Temperature>90000</Temperature>
<type>passive</type>
<ControlType>SEQUENTIAL</ControlType>
<CoolingDevice>
<type>_fan_</type>
</CoolingDevice>
</TripPoint>
</TripPoints>
</ThermalZone>
</ThermalZones>
<CoolingDevices>
<CoolingDevice>
<Type>_fan_</Type>
<Path>/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1</Path>
<MinState>100</MinState>
<MaxState>255</MaxState>
<IncDecStep>50</IncDecStep>
<DebouncePeriod>10</DebouncePeriod>
</CoolingDevice>
</CoolingDevices>
</Platform>
</ThermalConfiguration>


This makes no real difference, but I can see threshold settings at least (the last lines):



╰─ sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=info

NO RAPL sysfs present
22 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:8e:9 (6:142:9)
Running on a vanilla kernel
Polling mode is enabled: 4
sensor_update: type x86_pkg_temp
sensor_update: type pch_skylake
sensor_update: type iwlwifi
sensor_update: type acpitz
thd_read_default_thermal_sensors loaded 4 sensors
dts /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
dts /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
TRT/ART read failed
Dumping parsed XML Data
*** Index 0 ***
Name: UseFancontrolfirstthenCPUthrottle
UUID:
type: 0
Zone 0
Name: x86_pkg_temp
Trip Point 0
temp 90000
trip type 2
hyst id 0
sensor type x86_pkg_temp
cdev index 0
type _fan_
influence 0
SamplingPeriod 0
Cooling Dev 0
Type: _fan_
Path: /sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1
Min: 100
Max: 255
Step: 50
AutoDownControl: 0
Product Name matched [wildcard]
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
sensor index:2 iwlwifi /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/ Async:0
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
sensor index:4 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input Async:0
sensor index:5 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input Async:0
sensor index:6 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input Async:0
thd_read_default_cooling devices loaded 4 cdevs
powercap RAPL no long term time window
Use Default pstate drv settings
Product Name matched [wildcard]
3: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
1: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
2: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
0: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
4: intel_pstate, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/ rd_bk 1
5: _fan_, C:255 MN: 100 MX:255 ST:50 pt:/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1 rd_bk 1
6: LCD, C:0 MN: 0 MX:1060 ST:106 pt:/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/ rd_bk 1
Sorted trip dump zone index:1 type:pch_skylake:
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 115000
Sorted trip dump zone index:0 type:acpitz:
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 98000
thd_read_default_thermal_zones loaded 2 zones
zone cpu will be created
dts zone /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon4/name->iwlwifi
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon2/name->pch_skylake
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/name->acpitz
dts zone /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/name->coretemp
Buggy max temp: to close to critical 90000
Core temp DTS :critical 100000, max 90000, psv 95000
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: rapl_controller
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_pstate
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_powerclamp
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: cpufreq
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: Processor
CDEVS order specified in thermal-cpu-cdev-order.xml
Sorted trip dump zone index:4 type:cpu:
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
trip type: 2 temp: 95000
Product Name matched [wildcard]
zone x86_pkg_temp bounded
Sorted trip dump zone index:5 type:x86_pkg_temp:
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
trip type: 2 temp: 90000
Zone 1: pch_skylake, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
Zone 0: acpitz, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
Zone 4: cpu, Active:1 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
index 1: type:polling temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
Zone 5: x86_pkg_temp, Active:1 Bind:1 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
index 1: type:polling temp:85000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
FD = 7
Current user preference is 0
thd_engine_thread begin
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:53000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:205, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:57000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:155, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:105, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:100, max_state:255


Final thoughts/questions




  • Is it possible to set the CPU temperature threshold?

  • Is it meant to be set at all or is this BIOS/hardware related?

  • May my hardware (thermal paste) be defect?

  • Or did I maybe analysed something completely wrong?


Update #1



After diving deeper into this topic and reading several articles regarding Intel's CPU throttling and other posts facing same (or just slight different) issues on other operating systems and kernels, I came to the conclusion that my laptop may be not misbehaving as I thought it would.



Though the kernel-messages are still bizarre, but the reason could be a wrong kernel printk level or whatsoever. I also retrieve those messages when my CPU package temperature is around +52.0°C and CPU frequency just 1200MHz.
This just does not make any sense at all.



When testing my laptop with stress-tests I can see the error messages, but in fact the CPUs don't get throttled.
If I test 1 core only, I get full turbo boost speed of 3,900MHz.
Testing all 4 cores reduces the maximum frequency to ~3,300MHz.
Which is the expected behavior.



So I'll just put this issue aside - unless someone here may provide more insides.



Update #2



No changes after updating the system:



No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic
Linux4.15.0-20-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 24 06:16:15 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Update #3



No changes after updating the system:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.10
Release: 18.10
Codename: cosmic
Linux x1 4.18.0-13-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 09:04:24 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


So my final assumption is that the logs are highly likely bogus or that the log-level is mis-configured. Because my laptop just works fine, nor does it get throttled, neither is it overheating.



Still, if anyone has a hunch how this could be fixed, feel free to answer :-)










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  • This might be helpful to you: askubuntu.com/questions/391474/stop-cpu-from-overheating/…

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 12 '18 at 23:39











  • Though I've tried already the mentioned tools it's still a nice post providing a good overview on the thermal topic! You mentioned powerclamp's threshold of 85C. Could you figure out if this value is adjustable?

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 9:21











  • I think it's adjustable via tlp configuration file but I've never changed it. After installing tlp all my overheating problems went away.

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 13 '18 at 10:08











  • The docs do not say anything temperature related, unfortunately. linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 12:12






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    @PawelDebski Thanks, but please keep in mind that my laptop is not older than 9 months now.

    – Christopher Will
    Jul 27 '18 at 21:06
















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I receive following error messages a couple of times per hour:



08.03.18 21:27  kernel  CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal


Hardware spec:



ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2nd
N1NET33W (1.20 )
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz
Production date 2017.11


Software:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 17.10
Release: 17.10
Codename: artful
Linux 4.13.0-36-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 16 20:07:48 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Bios:



I set both battery and AC to performance in my BIOS settings, the BIOS is up to date.



What is the problem



The problem is that a threshold of CPU temperature is hit quite too early, it happens around 75°C, even though the CPU is allowed to reach up to 100°C. The temperature never goes higher than 85°C. So the CPU power gets throttled so fast.



I don't know if I may have a manufacturer hardware issue regarding inadequate thermal paste, or if it is software related. Before I send it to Lenovo I want to be sure it's not a self-made problem.



Stats



When I run a stress test



stress -c 4 -t 300


the error message happens almost instantly.



i7z gives following output:



Cpu speed from cpuinfo 2903.00Mhz
cpuinfo might be wrong if cpufreq is enabled. To guess correctly try estimating via tsc
Linux's inbuilt cpu_khz code emulated now
True Frequency (without accounting Turbo) 2903 MHz
CPU Multiplier 29x || Bus clock frequency (BCLK) 100.10 MHz

Socket [0] - [physical cores=2, logical cores=4, max online cores ever=2]
TURBO ENABLED on 2 Cores, Hyper Threading ON
Max Frequency without considering Turbo 3003.10 MHz (100.10 x [30])
Max TURBO Multiplier (if Enabled) with 1/2/3/4 Cores is 39x/39x/39x/39x
Real Current Frequency 3187.97 MHz [100.10 x 31.85] (Max of below)
Core [core-id] :Actual Freq (Mult.) C0% Halt(C1)% C3 % C6 % Temp VCore
Core 1 [0]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 85 1.0037
Core 2 [1]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 84 1.0037


C0 = Processor running without halting
C1 = Processor running with halts (States >C0 are power saver modes with cores idling)
C3 = Cores running with PLL turned off and core cache turned off
C6, C7 = Everything in C3 + core state saved to last level cache, C7 is deeper than C6
Above values in table are in percentage over the last 1 sec
[core-id] refers to core-id number in /proc/cpuinfo
'Garbage Values' message printed when garbage values are read
Ctrl+C to exit


As said, it never exceeds the 85 Temp, yet the CPU gets throttled.



sensors shows following output



iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +30.0°C

pch_skylake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +52.0°C

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +56.0°C (crit = +98.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 5859 RPM

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +58.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)


But the high-setting probably has no effect.



thermald



So I've played around with thermald then.



This is my adjusted configuration that I've found here:



<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ThermalConfiguration>
<Platform>
<Name>Use Fan control first then CPU throttle</Name>
<ProductName>*</ProductName>
<Preference>QUIET</Preference>
<ThermalZones>
<ThermalZone>
<Type>x86_pkg_temp</Type>
<TripPoints>
<TripPoint>
<SensorType>x86_pkg_temp</SensorType>
<Temperature>90000</Temperature>
<type>passive</type>
<ControlType>SEQUENTIAL</ControlType>
<CoolingDevice>
<type>_fan_</type>
</CoolingDevice>
</TripPoint>
</TripPoints>
</ThermalZone>
</ThermalZones>
<CoolingDevices>
<CoolingDevice>
<Type>_fan_</Type>
<Path>/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1</Path>
<MinState>100</MinState>
<MaxState>255</MaxState>
<IncDecStep>50</IncDecStep>
<DebouncePeriod>10</DebouncePeriod>
</CoolingDevice>
</CoolingDevices>
</Platform>
</ThermalConfiguration>


This makes no real difference, but I can see threshold settings at least (the last lines):



╰─ sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=info

NO RAPL sysfs present
22 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:8e:9 (6:142:9)
Running on a vanilla kernel
Polling mode is enabled: 4
sensor_update: type x86_pkg_temp
sensor_update: type pch_skylake
sensor_update: type iwlwifi
sensor_update: type acpitz
thd_read_default_thermal_sensors loaded 4 sensors
dts /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
dts /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
TRT/ART read failed
Dumping parsed XML Data
*** Index 0 ***
Name: UseFancontrolfirstthenCPUthrottle
UUID:
type: 0
Zone 0
Name: x86_pkg_temp
Trip Point 0
temp 90000
trip type 2
hyst id 0
sensor type x86_pkg_temp
cdev index 0
type _fan_
influence 0
SamplingPeriod 0
Cooling Dev 0
Type: _fan_
Path: /sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1
Min: 100
Max: 255
Step: 50
AutoDownControl: 0
Product Name matched [wildcard]
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
sensor index:2 iwlwifi /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/ Async:0
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
sensor index:4 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input Async:0
sensor index:5 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input Async:0
sensor index:6 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input Async:0
thd_read_default_cooling devices loaded 4 cdevs
powercap RAPL no long term time window
Use Default pstate drv settings
Product Name matched [wildcard]
3: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
1: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
2: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
0: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
4: intel_pstate, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/ rd_bk 1
5: _fan_, C:255 MN: 100 MX:255 ST:50 pt:/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1 rd_bk 1
6: LCD, C:0 MN: 0 MX:1060 ST:106 pt:/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/ rd_bk 1
Sorted trip dump zone index:1 type:pch_skylake:
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 115000
Sorted trip dump zone index:0 type:acpitz:
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 98000
thd_read_default_thermal_zones loaded 2 zones
zone cpu will be created
dts zone /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon4/name->iwlwifi
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon2/name->pch_skylake
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/name->acpitz
dts zone /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/name->coretemp
Buggy max temp: to close to critical 90000
Core temp DTS :critical 100000, max 90000, psv 95000
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: rapl_controller
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_pstate
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_powerclamp
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: cpufreq
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: Processor
CDEVS order specified in thermal-cpu-cdev-order.xml
Sorted trip dump zone index:4 type:cpu:
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
trip type: 2 temp: 95000
Product Name matched [wildcard]
zone x86_pkg_temp bounded
Sorted trip dump zone index:5 type:x86_pkg_temp:
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
trip type: 2 temp: 90000
Zone 1: pch_skylake, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
Zone 0: acpitz, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
Zone 4: cpu, Active:1 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
index 1: type:polling temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
Zone 5: x86_pkg_temp, Active:1 Bind:1 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
index 1: type:polling temp:85000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
FD = 7
Current user preference is 0
thd_engine_thread begin
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:53000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:205, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:57000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:155, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:105, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:100, max_state:255


Final thoughts/questions




  • Is it possible to set the CPU temperature threshold?

  • Is it meant to be set at all or is this BIOS/hardware related?

  • May my hardware (thermal paste) be defect?

  • Or did I maybe analysed something completely wrong?


Update #1



After diving deeper into this topic and reading several articles regarding Intel's CPU throttling and other posts facing same (or just slight different) issues on other operating systems and kernels, I came to the conclusion that my laptop may be not misbehaving as I thought it would.



Though the kernel-messages are still bizarre, but the reason could be a wrong kernel printk level or whatsoever. I also retrieve those messages when my CPU package temperature is around +52.0°C and CPU frequency just 1200MHz.
This just does not make any sense at all.



When testing my laptop with stress-tests I can see the error messages, but in fact the CPUs don't get throttled.
If I test 1 core only, I get full turbo boost speed of 3,900MHz.
Testing all 4 cores reduces the maximum frequency to ~3,300MHz.
Which is the expected behavior.



So I'll just put this issue aside - unless someone here may provide more insides.



Update #2



No changes after updating the system:



No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic
Linux4.15.0-20-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 24 06:16:15 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Update #3



No changes after updating the system:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.10
Release: 18.10
Codename: cosmic
Linux x1 4.18.0-13-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 09:04:24 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


So my final assumption is that the logs are highly likely bogus or that the log-level is mis-configured. Because my laptop just works fine, nor does it get throttled, neither is it overheating.



Still, if anyone has a hunch how this could be fixed, feel free to answer :-)










share|improve this question

























  • This might be helpful to you: askubuntu.com/questions/391474/stop-cpu-from-overheating/…

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 12 '18 at 23:39











  • Though I've tried already the mentioned tools it's still a nice post providing a good overview on the thermal topic! You mentioned powerclamp's threshold of 85C. Could you figure out if this value is adjustable?

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 9:21











  • I think it's adjustable via tlp configuration file but I've never changed it. After installing tlp all my overheating problems went away.

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 13 '18 at 10:08











  • The docs do not say anything temperature related, unfortunately. linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 12:12






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    @PawelDebski Thanks, but please keep in mind that my laptop is not older than 9 months now.

    – Christopher Will
    Jul 27 '18 at 21:06














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I receive following error messages a couple of times per hour:



08.03.18 21:27  kernel  CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal


Hardware spec:



ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2nd
N1NET33W (1.20 )
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz
Production date 2017.11


Software:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 17.10
Release: 17.10
Codename: artful
Linux 4.13.0-36-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 16 20:07:48 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Bios:



I set both battery and AC to performance in my BIOS settings, the BIOS is up to date.



What is the problem



The problem is that a threshold of CPU temperature is hit quite too early, it happens around 75°C, even though the CPU is allowed to reach up to 100°C. The temperature never goes higher than 85°C. So the CPU power gets throttled so fast.



I don't know if I may have a manufacturer hardware issue regarding inadequate thermal paste, or if it is software related. Before I send it to Lenovo I want to be sure it's not a self-made problem.



Stats



When I run a stress test



stress -c 4 -t 300


the error message happens almost instantly.



i7z gives following output:



Cpu speed from cpuinfo 2903.00Mhz
cpuinfo might be wrong if cpufreq is enabled. To guess correctly try estimating via tsc
Linux's inbuilt cpu_khz code emulated now
True Frequency (without accounting Turbo) 2903 MHz
CPU Multiplier 29x || Bus clock frequency (BCLK) 100.10 MHz

Socket [0] - [physical cores=2, logical cores=4, max online cores ever=2]
TURBO ENABLED on 2 Cores, Hyper Threading ON
Max Frequency without considering Turbo 3003.10 MHz (100.10 x [30])
Max TURBO Multiplier (if Enabled) with 1/2/3/4 Cores is 39x/39x/39x/39x
Real Current Frequency 3187.97 MHz [100.10 x 31.85] (Max of below)
Core [core-id] :Actual Freq (Mult.) C0% Halt(C1)% C3 % C6 % Temp VCore
Core 1 [0]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 85 1.0037
Core 2 [1]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 84 1.0037


C0 = Processor running without halting
C1 = Processor running with halts (States >C0 are power saver modes with cores idling)
C3 = Cores running with PLL turned off and core cache turned off
C6, C7 = Everything in C3 + core state saved to last level cache, C7 is deeper than C6
Above values in table are in percentage over the last 1 sec
[core-id] refers to core-id number in /proc/cpuinfo
'Garbage Values' message printed when garbage values are read
Ctrl+C to exit


As said, it never exceeds the 85 Temp, yet the CPU gets throttled.



sensors shows following output



iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +30.0°C

pch_skylake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +52.0°C

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +56.0°C (crit = +98.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 5859 RPM

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +58.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)


But the high-setting probably has no effect.



thermald



So I've played around with thermald then.



This is my adjusted configuration that I've found here:



<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ThermalConfiguration>
<Platform>
<Name>Use Fan control first then CPU throttle</Name>
<ProductName>*</ProductName>
<Preference>QUIET</Preference>
<ThermalZones>
<ThermalZone>
<Type>x86_pkg_temp</Type>
<TripPoints>
<TripPoint>
<SensorType>x86_pkg_temp</SensorType>
<Temperature>90000</Temperature>
<type>passive</type>
<ControlType>SEQUENTIAL</ControlType>
<CoolingDevice>
<type>_fan_</type>
</CoolingDevice>
</TripPoint>
</TripPoints>
</ThermalZone>
</ThermalZones>
<CoolingDevices>
<CoolingDevice>
<Type>_fan_</Type>
<Path>/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1</Path>
<MinState>100</MinState>
<MaxState>255</MaxState>
<IncDecStep>50</IncDecStep>
<DebouncePeriod>10</DebouncePeriod>
</CoolingDevice>
</CoolingDevices>
</Platform>
</ThermalConfiguration>


This makes no real difference, but I can see threshold settings at least (the last lines):



╰─ sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=info

NO RAPL sysfs present
22 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:8e:9 (6:142:9)
Running on a vanilla kernel
Polling mode is enabled: 4
sensor_update: type x86_pkg_temp
sensor_update: type pch_skylake
sensor_update: type iwlwifi
sensor_update: type acpitz
thd_read_default_thermal_sensors loaded 4 sensors
dts /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
dts /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
TRT/ART read failed
Dumping parsed XML Data
*** Index 0 ***
Name: UseFancontrolfirstthenCPUthrottle
UUID:
type: 0
Zone 0
Name: x86_pkg_temp
Trip Point 0
temp 90000
trip type 2
hyst id 0
sensor type x86_pkg_temp
cdev index 0
type _fan_
influence 0
SamplingPeriod 0
Cooling Dev 0
Type: _fan_
Path: /sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1
Min: 100
Max: 255
Step: 50
AutoDownControl: 0
Product Name matched [wildcard]
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
sensor index:2 iwlwifi /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/ Async:0
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
sensor index:4 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input Async:0
sensor index:5 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input Async:0
sensor index:6 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input Async:0
thd_read_default_cooling devices loaded 4 cdevs
powercap RAPL no long term time window
Use Default pstate drv settings
Product Name matched [wildcard]
3: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
1: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
2: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
0: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
4: intel_pstate, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/ rd_bk 1
5: _fan_, C:255 MN: 100 MX:255 ST:50 pt:/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1 rd_bk 1
6: LCD, C:0 MN: 0 MX:1060 ST:106 pt:/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/ rd_bk 1
Sorted trip dump zone index:1 type:pch_skylake:
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 115000
Sorted trip dump zone index:0 type:acpitz:
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 98000
thd_read_default_thermal_zones loaded 2 zones
zone cpu will be created
dts zone /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon4/name->iwlwifi
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon2/name->pch_skylake
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/name->acpitz
dts zone /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/name->coretemp
Buggy max temp: to close to critical 90000
Core temp DTS :critical 100000, max 90000, psv 95000
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: rapl_controller
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_pstate
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_powerclamp
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: cpufreq
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: Processor
CDEVS order specified in thermal-cpu-cdev-order.xml
Sorted trip dump zone index:4 type:cpu:
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
trip type: 2 temp: 95000
Product Name matched [wildcard]
zone x86_pkg_temp bounded
Sorted trip dump zone index:5 type:x86_pkg_temp:
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
trip type: 2 temp: 90000
Zone 1: pch_skylake, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
Zone 0: acpitz, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
Zone 4: cpu, Active:1 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
index 1: type:polling temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
Zone 5: x86_pkg_temp, Active:1 Bind:1 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
index 1: type:polling temp:85000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
FD = 7
Current user preference is 0
thd_engine_thread begin
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:53000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:205, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:57000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:155, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:105, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:100, max_state:255


Final thoughts/questions




  • Is it possible to set the CPU temperature threshold?

  • Is it meant to be set at all or is this BIOS/hardware related?

  • May my hardware (thermal paste) be defect?

  • Or did I maybe analysed something completely wrong?


Update #1



After diving deeper into this topic and reading several articles regarding Intel's CPU throttling and other posts facing same (or just slight different) issues on other operating systems and kernels, I came to the conclusion that my laptop may be not misbehaving as I thought it would.



Though the kernel-messages are still bizarre, but the reason could be a wrong kernel printk level or whatsoever. I also retrieve those messages when my CPU package temperature is around +52.0°C and CPU frequency just 1200MHz.
This just does not make any sense at all.



When testing my laptop with stress-tests I can see the error messages, but in fact the CPUs don't get throttled.
If I test 1 core only, I get full turbo boost speed of 3,900MHz.
Testing all 4 cores reduces the maximum frequency to ~3,300MHz.
Which is the expected behavior.



So I'll just put this issue aside - unless someone here may provide more insides.



Update #2



No changes after updating the system:



No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic
Linux4.15.0-20-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 24 06:16:15 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Update #3



No changes after updating the system:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.10
Release: 18.10
Codename: cosmic
Linux x1 4.18.0-13-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 09:04:24 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


So my final assumption is that the logs are highly likely bogus or that the log-level is mis-configured. Because my laptop just works fine, nor does it get throttled, neither is it overheating.



Still, if anyone has a hunch how this could be fixed, feel free to answer :-)










share|improve this question
















I receive following error messages a couple of times per hour:



08.03.18 21:27  kernel  CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2234)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 2695)
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
08.03.18 21:27 kernel CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal


Hardware spec:



ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2nd
N1NET33W (1.20 )
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz
Production date 2017.11


Software:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 17.10
Release: 17.10
Codename: artful
Linux 4.13.0-36-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 16 20:07:48 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Bios:



I set both battery and AC to performance in my BIOS settings, the BIOS is up to date.



What is the problem



The problem is that a threshold of CPU temperature is hit quite too early, it happens around 75°C, even though the CPU is allowed to reach up to 100°C. The temperature never goes higher than 85°C. So the CPU power gets throttled so fast.



I don't know if I may have a manufacturer hardware issue regarding inadequate thermal paste, or if it is software related. Before I send it to Lenovo I want to be sure it's not a self-made problem.



Stats



When I run a stress test



stress -c 4 -t 300


the error message happens almost instantly.



i7z gives following output:



Cpu speed from cpuinfo 2903.00Mhz
cpuinfo might be wrong if cpufreq is enabled. To guess correctly try estimating via tsc
Linux's inbuilt cpu_khz code emulated now
True Frequency (without accounting Turbo) 2903 MHz
CPU Multiplier 29x || Bus clock frequency (BCLK) 100.10 MHz

Socket [0] - [physical cores=2, logical cores=4, max online cores ever=2]
TURBO ENABLED on 2 Cores, Hyper Threading ON
Max Frequency without considering Turbo 3003.10 MHz (100.10 x [30])
Max TURBO Multiplier (if Enabled) with 1/2/3/4 Cores is 39x/39x/39x/39x
Real Current Frequency 3187.97 MHz [100.10 x 31.85] (Max of below)
Core [core-id] :Actual Freq (Mult.) C0% Halt(C1)% C3 % C6 % Temp VCore
Core 1 [0]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 85 1.0037
Core 2 [1]: 3187.97 (31.85x) 99.9 0 0 0 84 1.0037


C0 = Processor running without halting
C1 = Processor running with halts (States >C0 are power saver modes with cores idling)
C3 = Cores running with PLL turned off and core cache turned off
C6, C7 = Everything in C3 + core state saved to last level cache, C7 is deeper than C6
Above values in table are in percentage over the last 1 sec
[core-id] refers to core-id number in /proc/cpuinfo
'Garbage Values' message printed when garbage values are read
Ctrl+C to exit


As said, it never exceeds the 85 Temp, yet the CPU gets throttled.



sensors shows following output



iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +30.0°C

pch_skylake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +52.0°C

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +56.0°C (crit = +98.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 5859 RPM

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +59.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +58.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)


But the high-setting probably has no effect.



thermald



So I've played around with thermald then.



This is my adjusted configuration that I've found here:



<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ThermalConfiguration>
<Platform>
<Name>Use Fan control first then CPU throttle</Name>
<ProductName>*</ProductName>
<Preference>QUIET</Preference>
<ThermalZones>
<ThermalZone>
<Type>x86_pkg_temp</Type>
<TripPoints>
<TripPoint>
<SensorType>x86_pkg_temp</SensorType>
<Temperature>90000</Temperature>
<type>passive</type>
<ControlType>SEQUENTIAL</ControlType>
<CoolingDevice>
<type>_fan_</type>
</CoolingDevice>
</TripPoint>
</TripPoints>
</ThermalZone>
</ThermalZones>
<CoolingDevices>
<CoolingDevice>
<Type>_fan_</Type>
<Path>/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1</Path>
<MinState>100</MinState>
<MaxState>255</MaxState>
<IncDecStep>50</IncDecStep>
<DebouncePeriod>10</DebouncePeriod>
</CoolingDevice>
</CoolingDevices>
</Platform>
</ThermalConfiguration>


This makes no real difference, but I can see threshold settings at least (the last lines):



╰─ sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=info

NO RAPL sysfs present
22 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:8e:9 (6:142:9)
Running on a vanilla kernel
Polling mode is enabled: 4
sensor_update: type x86_pkg_temp
sensor_update: type pch_skylake
sensor_update: type iwlwifi
sensor_update: type acpitz
thd_read_default_thermal_sensors loaded 4 sensors
dts /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
dts /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
failed to open /dev/acpi_thermal_rel
TRT/ART read failed
Dumping parsed XML Data
*** Index 0 ***
Name: UseFancontrolfirstthenCPUthrottle
UUID:
type: 0
Zone 0
Name: x86_pkg_temp
Trip Point 0
temp 90000
trip type 2
hyst id 0
sensor type x86_pkg_temp
cdev index 0
type _fan_
influence 0
SamplingPeriod 0
Cooling Dev 0
Type: _fan_
Path: /sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1
Min: 100
Max: 255
Step: 50
AutoDownControl: 0
Product Name matched [wildcard]
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
sensor index:2 iwlwifi /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/ Async:0
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
sensor index:4 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input Async:0
sensor index:5 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input Async:0
sensor index:6 hwmon /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input Async:0
thd_read_default_cooling devices loaded 4 cdevs
powercap RAPL no long term time window
Use Default pstate drv settings
Product Name matched [wildcard]
3: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
1: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
2: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
0: Processor, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/class/thermal/ rd_bk 0
4: intel_pstate, C:0 MN: 0 MX:10 ST:1 pt:/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/ rd_bk 1
5: _fan_, C:255 MN: 100 MX:255 ST:50 pt:/sys/bus/platform/devices/thinkpad_hwmon/pwm1 rd_bk 1
6: LCD, C:0 MN: 0 MX:1060 ST:106 pt:/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/ rd_bk 1
Sorted trip dump zone index:1 type:pch_skylake:
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 115000
Sorted trip dump zone index:0 type:acpitz:
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
trip type: 0 temp: 98000
thd_read_default_thermal_zones loaded 2 zones
zone cpu will be created
dts zone /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon4/name->iwlwifi
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon2/name->pch_skylake
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/name->acpitz
dts zone /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name doesn't exist
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/name->coretemp
Buggy max temp: to close to critical 90000
Core temp DTS :critical 100000, max 90000, psv 95000
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: rapl_controller
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_pstate
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: intel_powerclamp
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: cpufreq
node type: Element, name: CoolingDevice value: Processor
CDEVS order specified in thermal-cpu-cdev-order.xml
Sorted trip dump zone index:4 type:cpu:
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
trip type: 2 temp: 95000
Product Name matched [wildcard]
zone x86_pkg_temp bounded
Sorted trip dump zone index:5 type:x86_pkg_temp:
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
trip type: 2 temp: 90000
Zone 1: pch_skylake, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:1 pch_skylake /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:115000 hyst:1 zone id:1 sensor id:1 cdev size:0
Zone 0: acpitz, Active:0 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:0 acpitz /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/ Async:0
..trips..
index 0: type:critical temp:98000 hyst:1 zone id:0 sensor id:0 cdev size:0
Zone 4: cpu, Active:1 Bind:0 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:95000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:65535 cdev size:2
cdev[0] intel_pstate
cdev[1] Processor
index 1: type:polling temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:4 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
Zone 5: x86_pkg_temp, Active:1 Bind:1 Sensor_cnt:1
..sensors..
sensor index:3 x86_pkg_temp /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone3/ Async:1
..trips..
index 0: type:passive temp:90000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:1
cdev[0] _fan_
index 1: type:polling temp:85000 hyst:0 zone id:5 sensor id:3 cdev size:0
FD = 7
Current user preference is 0
thd_engine_thread begin
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:53000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:205, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:57000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:155, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:105, max_state:255
Set : threshold:90000, temperature:85000, cdev:5(_fan_), curr_state:100, max_state:255


Final thoughts/questions




  • Is it possible to set the CPU temperature threshold?

  • Is it meant to be set at all or is this BIOS/hardware related?

  • May my hardware (thermal paste) be defect?

  • Or did I maybe analysed something completely wrong?


Update #1



After diving deeper into this topic and reading several articles regarding Intel's CPU throttling and other posts facing same (or just slight different) issues on other operating systems and kernels, I came to the conclusion that my laptop may be not misbehaving as I thought it would.



Though the kernel-messages are still bizarre, but the reason could be a wrong kernel printk level or whatsoever. I also retrieve those messages when my CPU package temperature is around +52.0°C and CPU frequency just 1200MHz.
This just does not make any sense at all.



When testing my laptop with stress-tests I can see the error messages, but in fact the CPUs don't get throttled.
If I test 1 core only, I get full turbo boost speed of 3,900MHz.
Testing all 4 cores reduces the maximum frequency to ~3,300MHz.
Which is the expected behavior.



So I'll just put this issue aside - unless someone here may provide more insides.



Update #2



No changes after updating the system:



No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic
Linux4.15.0-20-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 24 06:16:15 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Update #3



No changes after updating the system:



Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.10
Release: 18.10
Codename: cosmic
Linux x1 4.18.0-13-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 09:04:24 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


So my final assumption is that the logs are highly likely bogus or that the log-level is mis-configured. Because my laptop just works fine, nor does it get throttled, neither is it overheating.



Still, if anyone has a hunch how this could be fixed, feel free to answer :-)







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  • This might be helpful to you: askubuntu.com/questions/391474/stop-cpu-from-overheating/…

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 12 '18 at 23:39











  • Though I've tried already the mentioned tools it's still a nice post providing a good overview on the thermal topic! You mentioned powerclamp's threshold of 85C. Could you figure out if this value is adjustable?

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 9:21











  • I think it's adjustable via tlp configuration file but I've never changed it. After installing tlp all my overheating problems went away.

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 13 '18 at 10:08











  • The docs do not say anything temperature related, unfortunately. linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 12:12






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    @PawelDebski Thanks, but please keep in mind that my laptop is not older than 9 months now.

    – Christopher Will
    Jul 27 '18 at 21:06



















  • This might be helpful to you: askubuntu.com/questions/391474/stop-cpu-from-overheating/…

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 12 '18 at 23:39











  • Though I've tried already the mentioned tools it's still a nice post providing a good overview on the thermal topic! You mentioned powerclamp's threshold of 85C. Could you figure out if this value is adjustable?

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 9:21











  • I think it's adjustable via tlp configuration file but I've never changed it. After installing tlp all my overheating problems went away.

    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Mar 13 '18 at 10:08











  • The docs do not say anything temperature related, unfortunately. linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html

    – Christopher Will
    Mar 13 '18 at 12:12






  • 1





    @PawelDebski Thanks, but please keep in mind that my laptop is not older than 9 months now.

    – Christopher Will
    Jul 27 '18 at 21:06

















This might be helpful to you: askubuntu.com/questions/391474/stop-cpu-from-overheating/…

– WinEunuuchs2Unix
Mar 12 '18 at 23:39





This might be helpful to you: askubuntu.com/questions/391474/stop-cpu-from-overheating/…

– WinEunuuchs2Unix
Mar 12 '18 at 23:39













Though I've tried already the mentioned tools it's still a nice post providing a good overview on the thermal topic! You mentioned powerclamp's threshold of 85C. Could you figure out if this value is adjustable?

– Christopher Will
Mar 13 '18 at 9:21





Though I've tried already the mentioned tools it's still a nice post providing a good overview on the thermal topic! You mentioned powerclamp's threshold of 85C. Could you figure out if this value is adjustable?

– Christopher Will
Mar 13 '18 at 9:21













I think it's adjustable via tlp configuration file but I've never changed it. After installing tlp all my overheating problems went away.

– WinEunuuchs2Unix
Mar 13 '18 at 10:08





I think it's adjustable via tlp configuration file but I've never changed it. After installing tlp all my overheating problems went away.

– WinEunuuchs2Unix
Mar 13 '18 at 10:08













The docs do not say anything temperature related, unfortunately. linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html

– Christopher Will
Mar 13 '18 at 12:12





The docs do not say anything temperature related, unfortunately. linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html

– Christopher Will
Mar 13 '18 at 12:12




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1





@PawelDebski Thanks, but please keep in mind that my laptop is not older than 9 months now.

– Christopher Will
Jul 27 '18 at 21:06





@PawelDebski Thanks, but please keep in mind that my laptop is not older than 9 months now.

– Christopher Will
Jul 27 '18 at 21:06










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