an one “no not” to eat
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that
is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a
railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not
to eat.
(1 Corinthians 5: 11)
Would you please explain to me how no not works at the end of this verse?
meaning-in-context negation
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
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But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that
is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a
railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not
to eat.
(1 Corinthians 5: 11)
Would you please explain to me how no not works at the end of this verse?
meaning-in-context negation
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
For a King James bible verse? Try here; "Don't even eat with such people" or "not even to eat with such a one" or "You must even stop eating with someone like that".
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
8
If the King James bible hadn't been personally approved by God, I suspect that this would be universally acknowledged as some kind of typo.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
1
@PeterShor "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's the only language I need!" - Marge Schott
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
Is it possible it is an error in transcription and should read know not to eat?
– bib
Jan 22 '14 at 15:16
What do the more recent translations say?
– WS2
Jan 22 '14 at 20:59
add a comment |
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that
is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a
railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not
to eat.
(1 Corinthians 5: 11)
Would you please explain to me how no not works at the end of this verse?
meaning-in-context negation
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that
is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a
railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not
to eat.
(1 Corinthians 5: 11)
Would you please explain to me how no not works at the end of this verse?
meaning-in-context negation
meaning-in-context negation
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
edited Jan 22 '14 at 15:29
p.s.w.g
7,05122750
7,05122750
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
asked Jan 22 '14 at 14:24
Patrick CălinescuPatrick Călinescu
37351329
37351329
For a King James bible verse? Try here; "Don't even eat with such people" or "not even to eat with such a one" or "You must even stop eating with someone like that".
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
8
If the King James bible hadn't been personally approved by God, I suspect that this would be universally acknowledged as some kind of typo.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
1
@PeterShor "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's the only language I need!" - Marge Schott
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
Is it possible it is an error in transcription and should read know not to eat?
– bib
Jan 22 '14 at 15:16
What do the more recent translations say?
– WS2
Jan 22 '14 at 20:59
add a comment |
For a King James bible verse? Try here; "Don't even eat with such people" or "not even to eat with such a one" or "You must even stop eating with someone like that".
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
8
If the King James bible hadn't been personally approved by God, I suspect that this would be universally acknowledged as some kind of typo.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
1
@PeterShor "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's the only language I need!" - Marge Schott
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
Is it possible it is an error in transcription and should read know not to eat?
– bib
Jan 22 '14 at 15:16
What do the more recent translations say?
– WS2
Jan 22 '14 at 20:59
For a King James bible verse? Try here; "Don't even eat with such people" or "not even to eat with such a one" or "You must even stop eating with someone like that".
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
For a King James bible verse? Try here; "Don't even eat with such people" or "not even to eat with such a one" or "You must even stop eating with someone like that".
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
8
8
If the King James bible hadn't been personally approved by God, I suspect that this would be universally acknowledged as some kind of typo.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
If the King James bible hadn't been personally approved by God, I suspect that this would be universally acknowledged as some kind of typo.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
1
1
@PeterShor "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's the only language I need!" - Marge Schott
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
@PeterShor "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's the only language I need!" - Marge Schott
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
Is it possible it is an error in transcription and should read know not to eat?
– bib
Jan 22 '14 at 15:16
Is it possible it is an error in transcription and should read know not to eat?
– bib
Jan 22 '14 at 15:16
What do the more recent translations say?
– WS2
Jan 22 '14 at 20:59
What do the more recent translations say?
– WS2
Jan 22 '14 at 20:59
add a comment |
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A Google search on that verse teaches me that the meaning is "Do not eat with such a person". You are quoting the King James Bible, which, although it contributed greatly to the English language, does not always use vocabulary or constructions that are immediately recognizable or easy to identify.
With such an one no not to eat.
"an" seems strange, I would use "a" in this case.
"such a one" is a person as described in the preceding phrase.
I would read "no not to eat" as
No, (you are) not to eat (with such a person).
So it becomes something like
With such a one (= such a person), no, (you are supposed) not to eat.
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
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33.9k792123
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
1
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
add a comment |
In the Bible esp in the OT, it often says "Is it not..." rather than "It is..." Is that not due to a tendency that people had to say things like that in those times?
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When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
– KillingTime
2 days ago
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A Google search on that verse teaches me that the meaning is "Do not eat with such a person". You are quoting the King James Bible, which, although it contributed greatly to the English language, does not always use vocabulary or constructions that are immediately recognizable or easy to identify.
With such an one no not to eat.
"an" seems strange, I would use "a" in this case.
"such a one" is a person as described in the preceding phrase.
I would read "no not to eat" as
No, (you are) not to eat (with such a person).
So it becomes something like
With such a one (= such a person), no, (you are supposed) not to eat.
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
1
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
add a comment |
A Google search on that verse teaches me that the meaning is "Do not eat with such a person". You are quoting the King James Bible, which, although it contributed greatly to the English language, does not always use vocabulary or constructions that are immediately recognizable or easy to identify.
With such an one no not to eat.
"an" seems strange, I would use "a" in this case.
"such a one" is a person as described in the preceding phrase.
I would read "no not to eat" as
No, (you are) not to eat (with such a person).
So it becomes something like
With such a one (= such a person), no, (you are supposed) not to eat.
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
1
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
add a comment |
A Google search on that verse teaches me that the meaning is "Do not eat with such a person". You are quoting the King James Bible, which, although it contributed greatly to the English language, does not always use vocabulary or constructions that are immediately recognizable or easy to identify.
With such an one no not to eat.
"an" seems strange, I would use "a" in this case.
"such a one" is a person as described in the preceding phrase.
I would read "no not to eat" as
No, (you are) not to eat (with such a person).
So it becomes something like
With such a one (= such a person), no, (you are supposed) not to eat.
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
A Google search on that verse teaches me that the meaning is "Do not eat with such a person". You are quoting the King James Bible, which, although it contributed greatly to the English language, does not always use vocabulary or constructions that are immediately recognizable or easy to identify.
With such an one no not to eat.
"an" seems strange, I would use "a" in this case.
"such a one" is a person as described in the preceding phrase.
I would read "no not to eat" as
No, (you are) not to eat (with such a person).
So it becomes something like
With such a one (= such a person), no, (you are supposed) not to eat.
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
answered Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
oerkelensoerkelens
33.9k792123
33.9k792123
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
1
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
add a comment |
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
1
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
Yes, the simple addition of a comma helps a lot.
– Andrew Leach♦
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
I believe "an one" is correct for King James-era pronunciation. It is most certainly incorrect now.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:37
1
1
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@PeterShor: 'Not used in my locality' is not 'certainly incorrect'. "To such an one, if such there be, I swear by Heaven's arch above you..." Pirates of Penzance
– TimLymington
Jan 22 '14 at 15:39
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
@Tim: that's from 130 years ago, a third of the way to King James's time. But you're right … there may still be a few dialects that use "an one".
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 15:44
add a comment |
In the Bible esp in the OT, it often says "Is it not..." rather than "It is..." Is that not due to a tendency that people had to say things like that in those times?
answered Mar 30 at 5:10
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When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
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In the Bible esp in the OT, it often says "Is it not..." rather than "It is..." Is that not due to a tendency that people had to say things like that in those times?
answered Mar 30 at 5:10
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When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
– KillingTime
2 days ago
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– JJJ
2 days ago
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2 days ago
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In the Bible esp in the OT, it often says "Is it not..." rather than "It is..." Is that not due to a tendency that people had to say things like that in those times?
answered Mar 30 at 5:10
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In the Bible esp in the OT, it often says "Is it not..." rather than "It is..." Is that not due to a tendency that people had to say things like that in those times?
answered Mar 30 at 5:10
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When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
– KillingTime
2 days ago
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– JJJ
2 days ago
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– Chappo
2 days ago
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When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
– KillingTime
2 days ago
If you have a new question, please ask it by clicking the Ask Question button. Include a link to this question if it helps provide context. - From Review
– JJJ
2 days ago
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– Chappo
2 days ago
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When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
– KillingTime
2 days ago
When you refer to 'in those times', you mean when they rewrote the Bible in English presumably?
– KillingTime
2 days ago
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– JJJ
2 days ago
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2 days ago
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For a King James bible verse? Try here; "Don't even eat with such people" or "not even to eat with such a one" or "You must even stop eating with someone like that".
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
8
If the King James bible hadn't been personally approved by God, I suspect that this would be universally acknowledged as some kind of typo.
– Peter Shor
Jan 22 '14 at 14:29
1
@PeterShor "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's the only language I need!" - Marge Schott
– Elliott Frisch
Jan 22 '14 at 14:31
Is it possible it is an error in transcription and should read know not to eat?
– bib
Jan 22 '14 at 15:16
What do the more recent translations say?
– WS2
Jan 22 '14 at 20:59