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What is the difference between an infrared filter and an ND filter? I have a big stopper and I would like to take some images to show the infrared spectrum I have seen images where green foliage shows up red and any heat source shown up white §Is there any lens filter recommended for this genre of photography










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  • Possible duplicate of Is it possible to do infrared photography with digital cameras?

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  • Possible duplicate of Are there types of photography centered around wavelengths other than IR or visible light?

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What is the difference between an infrared filter and an ND filter? I have a big stopper and I would like to take some images to show the infrared spectrum I have seen images where green foliage shows up red and any heat source shown up white §Is there any lens filter recommended for this genre of photography










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What is the difference between an infrared filter and an ND filter? I have a big stopper and I would like to take some images to show the infrared spectrum I have seen images where green foliage shows up red and any heat source shown up white §Is there any lens filter recommended for this genre of photography







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  • Possible duplicate of Is it possible to do infrared photography with digital cameras?

    – scottbb
    Apr 6 at 0:51











  • Possible duplicate of Are there types of photography centered around wavelengths other than IR or visible light?

    – xiota
    yesterday



















  • Possible duplicate of Is it possible to do infrared photography with digital cameras?

    – scottbb
    Apr 6 at 0:51











  • Possible duplicate of Are there types of photography centered around wavelengths other than IR or visible light?

    – xiota
    yesterday

















Possible duplicate of Is it possible to do infrared photography with digital cameras?

– scottbb
Apr 6 at 0:51





Possible duplicate of Is it possible to do infrared photography with digital cameras?

– scottbb
Apr 6 at 0:51













Possible duplicate of Are there types of photography centered around wavelengths other than IR or visible light?

– xiota
yesterday





Possible duplicate of Are there types of photography centered around wavelengths other than IR or visible light?

– xiota
yesterday










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ND stands for "neutral density" - it is a filter type that (in theory) absorbs all wavelengths of the visible light by the same amount.



enter image description here



Effect of a ND-filter. CC-BY-SA 2.0: Robert Emperley





IR filters filter out all but certain wavelengths - the (near) IR wavelength of the filter. So basically, they are IR-pass filters, not IR-block filters. Thanks @TheLuckless!



As @Hueco states in his comment, IR filters will cut everything below a certain value. That value might be between 650 and 720nm - visible light, however, does go up to 750nm. Thanks for clarifying that, Hueco!



enter image description here



Typical result of using an IR filter. Some effort was put into post-production: The red and blue channels were swapped. CC-BY-SA 2.0:
Jannis





What you think of (white heat source, everything else red-ish) is most probably a thermographic camera - they differ from regular cameras in a lot of ways, including lenses that are (typically) made out of Germanium.



enter image description here



Thermographic image. CC-BY-SA 3.0: Lutz Weidner






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    It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:50











  • @Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 21:52











  • lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:56








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    @TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 22:20






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    @flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

    – xiota
    2 days ago












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ND stands for "neutral density" - it is a filter type that (in theory) absorbs all wavelengths of the visible light by the same amount.



enter image description here



Effect of a ND-filter. CC-BY-SA 2.0: Robert Emperley





IR filters filter out all but certain wavelengths - the (near) IR wavelength of the filter. So basically, they are IR-pass filters, not IR-block filters. Thanks @TheLuckless!



As @Hueco states in his comment, IR filters will cut everything below a certain value. That value might be between 650 and 720nm - visible light, however, does go up to 750nm. Thanks for clarifying that, Hueco!



enter image description here



Typical result of using an IR filter. Some effort was put into post-production: The red and blue channels were swapped. CC-BY-SA 2.0:
Jannis





What you think of (white heat source, everything else red-ish) is most probably a thermographic camera - they differ from regular cameras in a lot of ways, including lenses that are (typically) made out of Germanium.



enter image description here



Thermographic image. CC-BY-SA 3.0: Lutz Weidner






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    It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:50











  • @Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 21:52











  • lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:56








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    @TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 22:20






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    @flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

    – xiota
    2 days ago
















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ND stands for "neutral density" - it is a filter type that (in theory) absorbs all wavelengths of the visible light by the same amount.



enter image description here



Effect of a ND-filter. CC-BY-SA 2.0: Robert Emperley





IR filters filter out all but certain wavelengths - the (near) IR wavelength of the filter. So basically, they are IR-pass filters, not IR-block filters. Thanks @TheLuckless!



As @Hueco states in his comment, IR filters will cut everything below a certain value. That value might be between 650 and 720nm - visible light, however, does go up to 750nm. Thanks for clarifying that, Hueco!



enter image description here



Typical result of using an IR filter. Some effort was put into post-production: The red and blue channels were swapped. CC-BY-SA 2.0:
Jannis





What you think of (white heat source, everything else red-ish) is most probably a thermographic camera - they differ from regular cameras in a lot of ways, including lenses that are (typically) made out of Germanium.



enter image description here



Thermographic image. CC-BY-SA 3.0: Lutz Weidner






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    It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:50











  • @Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 21:52











  • lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:56








  • 1





    @TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 22:20






  • 1





    @flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

    – xiota
    2 days ago














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ND stands for "neutral density" - it is a filter type that (in theory) absorbs all wavelengths of the visible light by the same amount.



enter image description here



Effect of a ND-filter. CC-BY-SA 2.0: Robert Emperley





IR filters filter out all but certain wavelengths - the (near) IR wavelength of the filter. So basically, they are IR-pass filters, not IR-block filters. Thanks @TheLuckless!



As @Hueco states in his comment, IR filters will cut everything below a certain value. That value might be between 650 and 720nm - visible light, however, does go up to 750nm. Thanks for clarifying that, Hueco!



enter image description here



Typical result of using an IR filter. Some effort was put into post-production: The red and blue channels were swapped. CC-BY-SA 2.0:
Jannis





What you think of (white heat source, everything else red-ish) is most probably a thermographic camera - they differ from regular cameras in a lot of ways, including lenses that are (typically) made out of Germanium.



enter image description here



Thermographic image. CC-BY-SA 3.0: Lutz Weidner






share|improve this answer















ND stands for "neutral density" - it is a filter type that (in theory) absorbs all wavelengths of the visible light by the same amount.



enter image description here



Effect of a ND-filter. CC-BY-SA 2.0: Robert Emperley





IR filters filter out all but certain wavelengths - the (near) IR wavelength of the filter. So basically, they are IR-pass filters, not IR-block filters. Thanks @TheLuckless!



As @Hueco states in his comment, IR filters will cut everything below a certain value. That value might be between 650 and 720nm - visible light, however, does go up to 750nm. Thanks for clarifying that, Hueco!



enter image description here



Typical result of using an IR filter. Some effort was put into post-production: The red and blue channels were swapped. CC-BY-SA 2.0:
Jannis





What you think of (white heat source, everything else red-ish) is most probably a thermographic camera - they differ from regular cameras in a lot of ways, including lenses that are (typically) made out of Germanium.



enter image description here



Thermographic image. CC-BY-SA 3.0: Lutz Weidner







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    It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:50











  • @Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 21:52











  • lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:56








  • 1





    @TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 22:20






  • 1





    @flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

    – xiota
    2 days ago














  • 1





    It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:50











  • @Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 21:52











  • lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

    – Hueco
    Apr 5 at 21:56








  • 1





    @TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

    – flolilo
    Apr 5 at 22:20






  • 1





    @flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

    – xiota
    2 days ago








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It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

– Hueco
Apr 5 at 21:50





It's important to note that most IR filters block somewhere between 650nm and 720nm and below. Important because visible light goes up to ~750nm.

– Hueco
Apr 5 at 21:50













@Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

– flolilo
Apr 5 at 21:52





@Hueco Is there something you do not know better than me? :D In all seriousness, though: Will include that ASAP - just looking for some CC-BY-SA sample pictures for the respective categories.

– flolilo
Apr 5 at 21:52













lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

– Hueco
Apr 5 at 21:56







lol. I just happened to start looking at getting a camera converted by the folks at life pixel (many hours spent researching this topic). I'm just not sure if I want to send in the 60D or get a cheap used Rebel for the job. I do love my film, but when it comes to IR shooting, digital wins hands down

– Hueco
Apr 5 at 21:56






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@TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

– flolilo
Apr 5 at 22:20





@TheLuckless Hopefully I integrated the information from your comment so that this is more clear now - thanks for the tip!

– flolilo
Apr 5 at 22:20




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@flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

– xiota
2 days ago





@flolilo – OVF is useless with IR. When I had an IR-converted Rebel, there was no consistent exposure compensation that would work. Autofocus didn't work. Had to use Live View and manual focus to get reasonable results. Mirrorless with LCD or EVF would work better.

– xiota
2 days ago










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