Comma preceding “with” clause at end of sentence
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I read a sentence that I found very awkward:
"This March was the hottest of the decade with every day above average."
My brain wants to add a comma before "with." I know one way to avoid the sentence altogether is to rephrase it as:
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
But, if I were not to rephrase it as such, would it be correct to add a comma or to leave it in its original form?
Edit: My original sentence is not very clear; I made it up quickly just as an example. A better example might be:
"It was the best game of the season with every player scoring at least one goal."
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I read a sentence that I found very awkward:
"This March was the hottest of the decade with every day above average."
My brain wants to add a comma before "with." I know one way to avoid the sentence altogether is to rephrase it as:
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
But, if I were not to rephrase it as such, would it be correct to add a comma or to leave it in its original form?
Edit: My original sentence is not very clear; I made it up quickly just as an example. A better example might be:
"It was the best game of the season with every player scoring at least one goal."
commas prepositional-phrases dependent-clause
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I read a sentence that I found very awkward:
"This March was the hottest of the decade with every day above average."
My brain wants to add a comma before "with." I know one way to avoid the sentence altogether is to rephrase it as:
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
But, if I were not to rephrase it as such, would it be correct to add a comma or to leave it in its original form?
Edit: My original sentence is not very clear; I made it up quickly just as an example. A better example might be:
"It was the best game of the season with every player scoring at least one goal."
commas prepositional-phrases dependent-clause
asked Nov 14 '17 at 19:23
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I read a sentence that I found very awkward:
"This March was the hottest of the decade with every day above average."
My brain wants to add a comma before "with." I know one way to avoid the sentence altogether is to rephrase it as:
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
But, if I were not to rephrase it as such, would it be correct to add a comma or to leave it in its original form?
Edit: My original sentence is not very clear; I made it up quickly just as an example. A better example might be:
"It was the best game of the season with every player scoring at least one goal."
commas prepositional-phrases dependent-clause
commas prepositional-phrases dependent-clause
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Without the comma the sentence describes March as being part of a decade during which every single day was above average.
Whether every day of said decade was above average heat, or above average something else, is a question.
Even with the comma it needs the word temperature at the end.
(I just joined about an hour ago so please forgive this answer if it offends in it's immaturity. )
answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
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Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
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Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
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I'm going to have another go, if you don't mind.
I think it needs the comma, otherwise it reads that this game was the best game of all the games played this season in which every player scored. With a comma it gives the impression that this game was the one and only game of the season in which every player scored, which, I think, is what you wanted it to say.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
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Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
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I found following on Cambridge Dictionary
SENSES !
B2 [ C ] an ability to understand, recognize, value, or react to something, especially any of the five physical abilities to see, hear, smell, taste, and feel:
With her excellent sense of smell, she could tell if you were a smoker from the other side of the room.
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I am studying comma rules currently. Above all rules, there is the voice to use a comma where it is necessary to make your sentence easy to understand for your readers. Also rewriting it.
Including the subordinating conjunctions and about 16 other confirmed comma-rules, I wether find a rule for a sentence starting with "With" nor for
"with in the middle" where to put a comma. So listen to the voice above :-)
When we seeing the first phrase as intro, yes, the comma-rules say put a comma before the second phrase.
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
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It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
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Without the comma the sentence describes March as being part of a decade during which every single day was above average.
Whether every day of said decade was above average heat, or above average something else, is a question.
Even with the comma it needs the word temperature at the end.
(I just joined about an hour ago so please forgive this answer if it offends in it's immaturity. )
answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
– cocaccro
Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
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Without the comma the sentence describes March as being part of a decade during which every single day was above average.
Whether every day of said decade was above average heat, or above average something else, is a question.
Even with the comma it needs the word temperature at the end.
(I just joined about an hour ago so please forgive this answer if it offends in it's immaturity. )
answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
– cocaccro
Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
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Without the comma the sentence describes March as being part of a decade during which every single day was above average.
Whether every day of said decade was above average heat, or above average something else, is a question.
Even with the comma it needs the word temperature at the end.
(I just joined about an hour ago so please forgive this answer if it offends in it's immaturity. )
answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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Without the comma the sentence describes March as being part of a decade during which every single day was above average.
Whether every day of said decade was above average heat, or above average something else, is a question.
Even with the comma it needs the word temperature at the end.
(I just joined about an hour ago so please forgive this answer if it offends in it's immaturity. )
answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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answered Nov 14 '17 at 21:52
Carol Butler
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Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
– cocaccro
Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
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Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
– cocaccro
Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
– cocaccro
Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
Hi Carol, thank you. I actually just made up the sentence really quickly because the real sentence is work-related, so I can't share it. My main question is about the "with" clause -- I will update my question. Thank you!
– cocaccro
Nov 14 '17 at 22:26
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I'm going to have another go, if you don't mind.
I think it needs the comma, otherwise it reads that this game was the best game of all the games played this season in which every player scored. With a comma it gives the impression that this game was the one and only game of the season in which every player scored, which, I think, is what you wanted it to say.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
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Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
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I'm going to have another go, if you don't mind.
I think it needs the comma, otherwise it reads that this game was the best game of all the games played this season in which every player scored. With a comma it gives the impression that this game was the one and only game of the season in which every player scored, which, I think, is what you wanted it to say.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
42
Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
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I'm going to have another go, if you don't mind.
I think it needs the comma, otherwise it reads that this game was the best game of all the games played this season in which every player scored. With a comma it gives the impression that this game was the one and only game of the season in which every player scored, which, I think, is what you wanted it to say.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
42
I'm going to have another go, if you don't mind.
I think it needs the comma, otherwise it reads that this game was the best game of all the games played this season in which every player scored. With a comma it gives the impression that this game was the one and only game of the season in which every player scored, which, I think, is what you wanted it to say.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
42
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
42
answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
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answered Nov 15 '17 at 10:30
Carol Butler
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Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
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Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
Thank you! I think you got it -- this is why the original structure just seemed off to me. It was saying the wrong thing.
– cocaccro
Nov 15 '17 at 13:44
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I found following on Cambridge Dictionary
SENSES !
B2 [ C ] an ability to understand, recognize, value, or react to something, especially any of the five physical abilities to see, hear, smell, taste, and feel:
With her excellent sense of smell, she could tell if you were a smoker from the other side of the room.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
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I found following on Cambridge Dictionary
SENSES !
B2 [ C ] an ability to understand, recognize, value, or react to something, especially any of the five physical abilities to see, hear, smell, taste, and feel:
With her excellent sense of smell, she could tell if you were a smoker from the other side of the room.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
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I found following on Cambridge Dictionary
SENSES !
B2 [ C ] an ability to understand, recognize, value, or react to something, especially any of the five physical abilities to see, hear, smell, taste, and feel:
With her excellent sense of smell, she could tell if you were a smoker from the other side of the room.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
4951315
I found following on Cambridge Dictionary
SENSES !
B2 [ C ] an ability to understand, recognize, value, or react to something, especially any of the five physical abilities to see, hear, smell, taste, and feel:
With her excellent sense of smell, she could tell if you were a smoker from the other side of the room.
answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
4951315
answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
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answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
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answered Nov 15 '17 at 13:09
FrankMK
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I am studying comma rules currently. Above all rules, there is the voice to use a comma where it is necessary to make your sentence easy to understand for your readers. Also rewriting it.
Including the subordinating conjunctions and about 16 other confirmed comma-rules, I wether find a rule for a sentence starting with "With" nor for
"with in the middle" where to put a comma. So listen to the voice above :-)
When we seeing the first phrase as intro, yes, the comma-rules say put a comma before the second phrase.
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
add a comment |
up vote
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I am studying comma rules currently. Above all rules, there is the voice to use a comma where it is necessary to make your sentence easy to understand for your readers. Also rewriting it.
Including the subordinating conjunctions and about 16 other confirmed comma-rules, I wether find a rule for a sentence starting with "With" nor for
"with in the middle" where to put a comma. So listen to the voice above :-)
When we seeing the first phrase as intro, yes, the comma-rules say put a comma before the second phrase.
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
add a comment |
up vote
0
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up vote
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I am studying comma rules currently. Above all rules, there is the voice to use a comma where it is necessary to make your sentence easy to understand for your readers. Also rewriting it.
Including the subordinating conjunctions and about 16 other confirmed comma-rules, I wether find a rule for a sentence starting with "With" nor for
"with in the middle" where to put a comma. So listen to the voice above :-)
When we seeing the first phrase as intro, yes, the comma-rules say put a comma before the second phrase.
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
I am studying comma rules currently. Above all rules, there is the voice to use a comma where it is necessary to make your sentence easy to understand for your readers. Also rewriting it.
Including the subordinating conjunctions and about 16 other confirmed comma-rules, I wether find a rule for a sentence starting with "With" nor for
"with in the middle" where to put a comma. So listen to the voice above :-)
When we seeing the first phrase as intro, yes, the comma-rules say put a comma before the second phrase.
"With every day above average, this March was the hottest of the decade."
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
edited Nov 15 '17 at 13:12
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
answered Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
FrankMK
4951315
4951315
It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
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It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
It's a parenthetical phrase adding detail to the main clause. Initially placed parentheticals are normally set off by a comma.
– Edwin Ashworth
Nov 14 '17 at 23:54
add a comment |
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