How does the Ring of Mind Shielding interact with effects that affect a certain alignment?
The Ring of Mind Shielding, an uncommon magic item (DMG, p. 191), has the following property (emphasis mine):
While wearing this ring, you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to read your thoughts, determine whether you are lying, know your alignment, or know your creature type.
How does this interact with effects that affect creatures of a certain alignment? After all, by common sense, something can't affect you based on your alignment if it doesn't know it.
Most notably, the Outer Planes affect "dis-aligned" creatures, as specified in the DMG. There are also some magic items that correspond to certain alignments, such as a Candle of Invocation or a Talisman of Pure Good / Ultimate Evil.
Spells such as Glyph of Warding can also affect creatures of certain alignments.
The same question rises for the matter of creature types, but I suspect the answer will be the same.
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The Ring of Mind Shielding, an uncommon magic item (DMG, p. 191), has the following property (emphasis mine):
While wearing this ring, you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to read your thoughts, determine whether you are lying, know your alignment, or know your creature type.
How does this interact with effects that affect creatures of a certain alignment? After all, by common sense, something can't affect you based on your alignment if it doesn't know it.
Most notably, the Outer Planes affect "dis-aligned" creatures, as specified in the DMG. There are also some magic items that correspond to certain alignments, such as a Candle of Invocation or a Talisman of Pure Good / Ultimate Evil.
Spells such as Glyph of Warding can also affect creatures of certain alignments.
The same question rises for the matter of creature types, but I suspect the answer will be the same.
dnd-5e spells magic-items alignment
add a comment |
The Ring of Mind Shielding, an uncommon magic item (DMG, p. 191), has the following property (emphasis mine):
While wearing this ring, you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to read your thoughts, determine whether you are lying, know your alignment, or know your creature type.
How does this interact with effects that affect creatures of a certain alignment? After all, by common sense, something can't affect you based on your alignment if it doesn't know it.
Most notably, the Outer Planes affect "dis-aligned" creatures, as specified in the DMG. There are also some magic items that correspond to certain alignments, such as a Candle of Invocation or a Talisman of Pure Good / Ultimate Evil.
Spells such as Glyph of Warding can also affect creatures of certain alignments.
The same question rises for the matter of creature types, but I suspect the answer will be the same.
dnd-5e spells magic-items alignment
The Ring of Mind Shielding, an uncommon magic item (DMG, p. 191), has the following property (emphasis mine):
While wearing this ring, you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to read your thoughts, determine whether you are lying, know your alignment, or know your creature type.
How does this interact with effects that affect creatures of a certain alignment? After all, by common sense, something can't affect you based on your alignment if it doesn't know it.
Most notably, the Outer Planes affect "dis-aligned" creatures, as specified in the DMG. There are also some magic items that correspond to certain alignments, such as a Candle of Invocation or a Talisman of Pure Good / Ultimate Evil.
Spells such as Glyph of Warding can also affect creatures of certain alignments.
The same question rises for the matter of creature types, but I suspect the answer will be the same.
dnd-5e spells magic-items alignment
dnd-5e spells magic-items alignment
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They affect you as normal
you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to ... know your alignment
None of the effects you mention do that, so the ring has no effect on them.
I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
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@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
1
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
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They affect you as normal
you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to ... know your alignment
None of the effects you mention do that, so the ring has no effect on them.
I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
1
@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
1
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
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They affect you as normal
you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to ... know your alignment
None of the effects you mention do that, so the ring has no effect on them.
I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
1
@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
1
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
add a comment |
They affect you as normal
you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to ... know your alignment
None of the effects you mention do that, so the ring has no effect on them.
They affect you as normal
you are immune to magic that allows other creatures to ... know your alignment
None of the effects you mention do that, so the ring has no effect on them.
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I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
1
@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
1
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
add a comment |
I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
1
@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
1
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
I'd suggest changing "..." to "[...]" because that demonstrates that you changed it and that the quote didn't include an ellipsis. Right now it could be classified as a misquote.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 3:25
1
1
@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
@DavidArchibald that’s what an ellipsis (...) means
– Dale M
Dec 25 at 3:48
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
That's a good question for some other Exchange: How do you quote an ellipsis?
– Shawn V. Wilson
Dec 25 at 4:02
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
This answer already exist, and I'm sure others exist. I suggested using bracketed ellipsis in this case because I was a little confused when I first read it, and in general just to be consistent with other direct quotation modifications. It's definitely a style issue with different sugestions like: "[...]" or "..." or ". . ." or ". . . ." I simply prefer the first, and think it fits the situation.
– David Archibald
Dec 25 at 4:44
1
1
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
If I cast a glyph of warding that makes the room light up in green if a chaotic-aligned creature walks in, then the magic is letting me know your alignment. Either the Ring has to make the magic fail, or it has to somehow make me misinterpret the results. (Yes, this ties into a much bigger problem with glyph of warding.)
– Mark Wells
Dec 25 at 17:30
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