Summitting Breithorn in the winter?
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I am interested in summitting Breithorn this winter (late January) using crampons and an ice axe. I am in excellent physical shape but I do not have much alpine experience. I have seen mixed reviews about whether or not I should hire a guide, but most companies do not offer tours in the winter. I am curious why this is the case and if I should even think about summitting Breithorn in the winter, and if I should even consider doing it by myself.
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I am interested in summitting Breithorn this winter (late January) using crampons and an ice axe. I am in excellent physical shape but I do not have much alpine experience. I have seen mixed reviews about whether or not I should hire a guide, but most companies do not offer tours in the winter. I am curious why this is the case and if I should even think about summitting Breithorn in the winter, and if I should even consider doing it by myself.
safety mountaineering winter alps alpine
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why are you considering this peak?
– njzk2
Dec 12 at 6:49
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By "not much alpine experience" do you mean "not much experience of the Alps, but plenty in the Rockies", or "not much experience of climbing snow and ice"?
– Martin Bonner
Dec 12 at 15:01
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If you are planning to ascend from the top of the Klein Matterhorn cable car at 3800 m, it entirely depends: in the right conditions (clear skies, no wind, good snow) I imagine it would be little different from a summer ascent (2 hrs or so). But the approach is crevassed and steepens to 35 degrees at the top (which may be icy) so with your stated experience I certainly would not consider attempting it on your own.
– xnx
Dec 13 at 12:42
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@njzk2 Breithorn (along with Allalinhorn) is considered the easiest 4000m to climb and has been recommended as a great way to get introduced to alpinism! However, I think I'll avoid underestimating it and just go with a friend and a guide.
– Lowblow
Dec 13 at 16:10
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@Lowblow sounds reasonnable! (you can also get introduced to alpinism way below 4000m)
– njzk2
Dec 14 at 5:57
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I am interested in summitting Breithorn this winter (late January) using crampons and an ice axe. I am in excellent physical shape but I do not have much alpine experience. I have seen mixed reviews about whether or not I should hire a guide, but most companies do not offer tours in the winter. I am curious why this is the case and if I should even think about summitting Breithorn in the winter, and if I should even consider doing it by myself.
safety mountaineering winter alps alpine
asked Dec 11 at 17:28
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I am interested in summitting Breithorn this winter (late January) using crampons and an ice axe. I am in excellent physical shape but I do not have much alpine experience. I have seen mixed reviews about whether or not I should hire a guide, but most companies do not offer tours in the winter. I am curious why this is the case and if I should even think about summitting Breithorn in the winter, and if I should even consider doing it by myself.
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safety mountaineering winter alps alpine
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why are you considering this peak?
– njzk2
Dec 12 at 6:49
4
By "not much alpine experience" do you mean "not much experience of the Alps, but plenty in the Rockies", or "not much experience of climbing snow and ice"?
– Martin Bonner
Dec 12 at 15:01
1
If you are planning to ascend from the top of the Klein Matterhorn cable car at 3800 m, it entirely depends: in the right conditions (clear skies, no wind, good snow) I imagine it would be little different from a summer ascent (2 hrs or so). But the approach is crevassed and steepens to 35 degrees at the top (which may be icy) so with your stated experience I certainly would not consider attempting it on your own.
– xnx
Dec 13 at 12:42
1
@njzk2 Breithorn (along with Allalinhorn) is considered the easiest 4000m to climb and has been recommended as a great way to get introduced to alpinism! However, I think I'll avoid underestimating it and just go with a friend and a guide.
– Lowblow
Dec 13 at 16:10
1
@Lowblow sounds reasonnable! (you can also get introduced to alpinism way below 4000m)
– njzk2
Dec 14 at 5:57
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why are you considering this peak?
– njzk2
Dec 12 at 6:49
4
By "not much alpine experience" do you mean "not much experience of the Alps, but plenty in the Rockies", or "not much experience of climbing snow and ice"?
– Martin Bonner
Dec 12 at 15:01
1
If you are planning to ascend from the top of the Klein Matterhorn cable car at 3800 m, it entirely depends: in the right conditions (clear skies, no wind, good snow) I imagine it would be little different from a summer ascent (2 hrs or so). But the approach is crevassed and steepens to 35 degrees at the top (which may be icy) so with your stated experience I certainly would not consider attempting it on your own.
– xnx
Dec 13 at 12:42
1
@njzk2 Breithorn (along with Allalinhorn) is considered the easiest 4000m to climb and has been recommended as a great way to get introduced to alpinism! However, I think I'll avoid underestimating it and just go with a friend and a guide.
– Lowblow
Dec 13 at 16:10
1
@Lowblow sounds reasonnable! (you can also get introduced to alpinism way below 4000m)
– njzk2
Dec 14 at 5:57
1
1
why are you considering this peak?
– njzk2
Dec 12 at 6:49
why are you considering this peak?
– njzk2
Dec 12 at 6:49
4
4
By "not much alpine experience" do you mean "not much experience of the Alps, but plenty in the Rockies", or "not much experience of climbing snow and ice"?
– Martin Bonner
Dec 12 at 15:01
By "not much alpine experience" do you mean "not much experience of the Alps, but plenty in the Rockies", or "not much experience of climbing snow and ice"?
– Martin Bonner
Dec 12 at 15:01
1
1
If you are planning to ascend from the top of the Klein Matterhorn cable car at 3800 m, it entirely depends: in the right conditions (clear skies, no wind, good snow) I imagine it would be little different from a summer ascent (2 hrs or so). But the approach is crevassed and steepens to 35 degrees at the top (which may be icy) so with your stated experience I certainly would not consider attempting it on your own.
– xnx
Dec 13 at 12:42
If you are planning to ascend from the top of the Klein Matterhorn cable car at 3800 m, it entirely depends: in the right conditions (clear skies, no wind, good snow) I imagine it would be little different from a summer ascent (2 hrs or so). But the approach is crevassed and steepens to 35 degrees at the top (which may be icy) so with your stated experience I certainly would not consider attempting it on your own.
– xnx
Dec 13 at 12:42
1
1
@njzk2 Breithorn (along with Allalinhorn) is considered the easiest 4000m to climb and has been recommended as a great way to get introduced to alpinism! However, I think I'll avoid underestimating it and just go with a friend and a guide.
– Lowblow
Dec 13 at 16:10
@njzk2 Breithorn (along with Allalinhorn) is considered the easiest 4000m to climb and has been recommended as a great way to get introduced to alpinism! However, I think I'll avoid underestimating it and just go with a friend and a guide.
– Lowblow
Dec 13 at 16:10
1
1
@Lowblow sounds reasonnable! (you can also get introduced to alpinism way below 4000m)
– njzk2
Dec 14 at 5:57
@Lowblow sounds reasonnable! (you can also get introduced to alpinism way below 4000m)
– njzk2
Dec 14 at 5:57
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I do not have much alpine experience
Climbing the Breithorn in the winter is a much different matter than in the spring or summer. Any 4,000 meter peak in the alps is subject to arctic weather conditions with high winds and temperatures far below freezing. There is also going to be very deep snow, so unless you know how to ski or snowshoe, you are going to have a rough time even getting to the real start of the climb. If you've never tried to travel on foot in 2 meters of soft snow, you have no idea of how slow and exhausting it is. On top of that, a 35 degree slope is going to have significant hazards from avalanche. Until you have enough experience to evaluate the local avalanche forecasts and compare them to the conditions you actually see, you should be very conservative in your winter travel.
That being said, the Breithorn is considered the easiest 4,000 meter peak in the alps, but it still involves glacier travel and somewhat steep (35 degree) snow slopes. That makes it an excellent choice for a beginner (with a guide if you're a real beginner) in season (spring and summer).
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As a general rule, I think it unwise to attempt, solo, for the first time, the sort of climb that one has no experience with, especially if it carries the potential for a serious accident.
You have winter against you, ice against you, inexperience against you, and possibly an unknown reaction to 4,164 meters against you. Solo? No, not unless your meaning of do not have much alpine experience is an extremely modest understatement.
As for hiring a guide, it is likely that a company will be able to find a guide for you, even if they do not regularly offer tours in the winter. You will be hiring a private guide and it will be more expensive than the summer tour. The reason that the companies do not offer regular tours is probably because there are not enough tourists who are able to climb a mountain in winter conditions.
Breithorn Ascent says:
This tour is a perfect way to get a sense of high Alpine air for the first time but only for surefooted and experienced mountain hikers accompanied by a mountain guide. The tour includes climbing a glaciated four thousand-metre peak, and this is not to be underestimated
•The overall difficulty of the tour is given as “L” (easy)
•A mountain guide is recommended
•Warning: glacier crevasses
Crampons, climbing harnesses and helmets can be rented in different
sport shops in the village
This description and caveat is for a summer tour.
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
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Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
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Don't try it. The (walking) mountaineering season is over, there is now too much snow in the high mountains and it definitely will not get easier till January. You have to wait until the Summer when the snow starts to get more compact. An early date for a 4000s ascent is June.
For mountaineering now you either need skis that carry you over soft powder or a much steeper wall where the snow will slide down before it gets a significant builtup. But then you are into ice climbing and the standard Breithorn route is far from this ;)
answered Dec 12 at 17:27
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I do not have much alpine experience
Climbing the Breithorn in the winter is a much different matter than in the spring or summer. Any 4,000 meter peak in the alps is subject to arctic weather conditions with high winds and temperatures far below freezing. There is also going to be very deep snow, so unless you know how to ski or snowshoe, you are going to have a rough time even getting to the real start of the climb. If you've never tried to travel on foot in 2 meters of soft snow, you have no idea of how slow and exhausting it is. On top of that, a 35 degree slope is going to have significant hazards from avalanche. Until you have enough experience to evaluate the local avalanche forecasts and compare them to the conditions you actually see, you should be very conservative in your winter travel.
That being said, the Breithorn is considered the easiest 4,000 meter peak in the alps, but it still involves glacier travel and somewhat steep (35 degree) snow slopes. That makes it an excellent choice for a beginner (with a guide if you're a real beginner) in season (spring and summer).
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I do not have much alpine experience
Climbing the Breithorn in the winter is a much different matter than in the spring or summer. Any 4,000 meter peak in the alps is subject to arctic weather conditions with high winds and temperatures far below freezing. There is also going to be very deep snow, so unless you know how to ski or snowshoe, you are going to have a rough time even getting to the real start of the climb. If you've never tried to travel on foot in 2 meters of soft snow, you have no idea of how slow and exhausting it is. On top of that, a 35 degree slope is going to have significant hazards from avalanche. Until you have enough experience to evaluate the local avalanche forecasts and compare them to the conditions you actually see, you should be very conservative in your winter travel.
That being said, the Breithorn is considered the easiest 4,000 meter peak in the alps, but it still involves glacier travel and somewhat steep (35 degree) snow slopes. That makes it an excellent choice for a beginner (with a guide if you're a real beginner) in season (spring and summer).
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up vote
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I do not have much alpine experience
Climbing the Breithorn in the winter is a much different matter than in the spring or summer. Any 4,000 meter peak in the alps is subject to arctic weather conditions with high winds and temperatures far below freezing. There is also going to be very deep snow, so unless you know how to ski or snowshoe, you are going to have a rough time even getting to the real start of the climb. If you've never tried to travel on foot in 2 meters of soft snow, you have no idea of how slow and exhausting it is. On top of that, a 35 degree slope is going to have significant hazards from avalanche. Until you have enough experience to evaluate the local avalanche forecasts and compare them to the conditions you actually see, you should be very conservative in your winter travel.
That being said, the Breithorn is considered the easiest 4,000 meter peak in the alps, but it still involves glacier travel and somewhat steep (35 degree) snow slopes. That makes it an excellent choice for a beginner (with a guide if you're a real beginner) in season (spring and summer).
edited Dec 11 at 23:36
Sue
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answered Dec 11 at 18:07
Charles E. Grant
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I do not have much alpine experience
Climbing the Breithorn in the winter is a much different matter than in the spring or summer. Any 4,000 meter peak in the alps is subject to arctic weather conditions with high winds and temperatures far below freezing. There is also going to be very deep snow, so unless you know how to ski or snowshoe, you are going to have a rough time even getting to the real start of the climb. If you've never tried to travel on foot in 2 meters of soft snow, you have no idea of how slow and exhausting it is. On top of that, a 35 degree slope is going to have significant hazards from avalanche. Until you have enough experience to evaluate the local avalanche forecasts and compare them to the conditions you actually see, you should be very conservative in your winter travel.
That being said, the Breithorn is considered the easiest 4,000 meter peak in the alps, but it still involves glacier travel and somewhat steep (35 degree) snow slopes. That makes it an excellent choice for a beginner (with a guide if you're a real beginner) in season (spring and summer).
edited Dec 11 at 23:36
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answered Dec 11 at 18:07
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As a general rule, I think it unwise to attempt, solo, for the first time, the sort of climb that one has no experience with, especially if it carries the potential for a serious accident.
You have winter against you, ice against you, inexperience against you, and possibly an unknown reaction to 4,164 meters against you. Solo? No, not unless your meaning of do not have much alpine experience is an extremely modest understatement.
As for hiring a guide, it is likely that a company will be able to find a guide for you, even if they do not regularly offer tours in the winter. You will be hiring a private guide and it will be more expensive than the summer tour. The reason that the companies do not offer regular tours is probably because there are not enough tourists who are able to climb a mountain in winter conditions.
Breithorn Ascent says:
This tour is a perfect way to get a sense of high Alpine air for the first time but only for surefooted and experienced mountain hikers accompanied by a mountain guide. The tour includes climbing a glaciated four thousand-metre peak, and this is not to be underestimated
•The overall difficulty of the tour is given as “L” (easy)
•A mountain guide is recommended
•Warning: glacier crevasses
Crampons, climbing harnesses and helmets can be rented in different
sport shops in the village
This description and caveat is for a summer tour.
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
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Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
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up vote
13
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As a general rule, I think it unwise to attempt, solo, for the first time, the sort of climb that one has no experience with, especially if it carries the potential for a serious accident.
You have winter against you, ice against you, inexperience against you, and possibly an unknown reaction to 4,164 meters against you. Solo? No, not unless your meaning of do not have much alpine experience is an extremely modest understatement.
As for hiring a guide, it is likely that a company will be able to find a guide for you, even if they do not regularly offer tours in the winter. You will be hiring a private guide and it will be more expensive than the summer tour. The reason that the companies do not offer regular tours is probably because there are not enough tourists who are able to climb a mountain in winter conditions.
Breithorn Ascent says:
This tour is a perfect way to get a sense of high Alpine air for the first time but only for surefooted and experienced mountain hikers accompanied by a mountain guide. The tour includes climbing a glaciated four thousand-metre peak, and this is not to be underestimated
•The overall difficulty of the tour is given as “L” (easy)
•A mountain guide is recommended
•Warning: glacier crevasses
Crampons, climbing harnesses and helmets can be rented in different
sport shops in the village
This description and caveat is for a summer tour.
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
12.3k340105
1
Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
add a comment |
up vote
13
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up vote
13
down vote
As a general rule, I think it unwise to attempt, solo, for the first time, the sort of climb that one has no experience with, especially if it carries the potential for a serious accident.
You have winter against you, ice against you, inexperience against you, and possibly an unknown reaction to 4,164 meters against you. Solo? No, not unless your meaning of do not have much alpine experience is an extremely modest understatement.
As for hiring a guide, it is likely that a company will be able to find a guide for you, even if they do not regularly offer tours in the winter. You will be hiring a private guide and it will be more expensive than the summer tour. The reason that the companies do not offer regular tours is probably because there are not enough tourists who are able to climb a mountain in winter conditions.
Breithorn Ascent says:
This tour is a perfect way to get a sense of high Alpine air for the first time but only for surefooted and experienced mountain hikers accompanied by a mountain guide. The tour includes climbing a glaciated four thousand-metre peak, and this is not to be underestimated
•The overall difficulty of the tour is given as “L” (easy)
•A mountain guide is recommended
•Warning: glacier crevasses
Crampons, climbing harnesses and helmets can be rented in different
sport shops in the village
This description and caveat is for a summer tour.
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
12.3k340105
As a general rule, I think it unwise to attempt, solo, for the first time, the sort of climb that one has no experience with, especially if it carries the potential for a serious accident.
You have winter against you, ice against you, inexperience against you, and possibly an unknown reaction to 4,164 meters against you. Solo? No, not unless your meaning of do not have much alpine experience is an extremely modest understatement.
As for hiring a guide, it is likely that a company will be able to find a guide for you, even if they do not regularly offer tours in the winter. You will be hiring a private guide and it will be more expensive than the summer tour. The reason that the companies do not offer regular tours is probably because there are not enough tourists who are able to climb a mountain in winter conditions.
Breithorn Ascent says:
This tour is a perfect way to get a sense of high Alpine air for the first time but only for surefooted and experienced mountain hikers accompanied by a mountain guide. The tour includes climbing a glaciated four thousand-metre peak, and this is not to be underestimated
•The overall difficulty of the tour is given as “L” (easy)
•A mountain guide is recommended
•Warning: glacier crevasses
Crampons, climbing harnesses and helmets can be rented in different
sport shops in the village
This description and caveat is for a summer tour.
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
12.3k340105
edited Dec 11 at 23:13
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
12.3k340105
answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
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answered Dec 11 at 18:07
ab2
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Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
add a comment |
1
Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
1
1
Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
Of course the summer guides mostly have winter jobs (say --- skiing instructor, paramedic, ...) locally, or their own ice-climbing ventures (locally or far away); but some may still be available or part-time available (especially if they were planning to do the same, unpaid!). Weather is the crucial knowledge you can't transfer in. Guiding companies can discuss with you to find your actual skill; but they have to tell you not to go ahead solo, since for making zero money, liability lawsuits will come their way after your inevitable accident and (hopefully) successful but costly rescue.
– user3445853
Dec 13 at 11:18
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Don't try it. The (walking) mountaineering season is over, there is now too much snow in the high mountains and it definitely will not get easier till January. You have to wait until the Summer when the snow starts to get more compact. An early date for a 4000s ascent is June.
For mountaineering now you either need skis that carry you over soft powder or a much steeper wall where the snow will slide down before it gets a significant builtup. But then you are into ice climbing and the standard Breithorn route is far from this ;)
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Don't try it. The (walking) mountaineering season is over, there is now too much snow in the high mountains and it definitely will not get easier till January. You have to wait until the Summer when the snow starts to get more compact. An early date for a 4000s ascent is June.
For mountaineering now you either need skis that carry you over soft powder or a much steeper wall where the snow will slide down before it gets a significant builtup. But then you are into ice climbing and the standard Breithorn route is far from this ;)
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Don't try it. The (walking) mountaineering season is over, there is now too much snow in the high mountains and it definitely will not get easier till January. You have to wait until the Summer when the snow starts to get more compact. An early date for a 4000s ascent is June.
For mountaineering now you either need skis that carry you over soft powder or a much steeper wall where the snow will slide down before it gets a significant builtup. But then you are into ice climbing and the standard Breithorn route is far from this ;)
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Don't try it. The (walking) mountaineering season is over, there is now too much snow in the high mountains and it definitely will not get easier till January. You have to wait until the Summer when the snow starts to get more compact. An early date for a 4000s ascent is June.
For mountaineering now you either need skis that carry you over soft powder or a much steeper wall where the snow will slide down before it gets a significant builtup. But then you are into ice climbing and the standard Breithorn route is far from this ;)
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why are you considering this peak?
– njzk2
Dec 12 at 6:49
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By "not much alpine experience" do you mean "not much experience of the Alps, but plenty in the Rockies", or "not much experience of climbing snow and ice"?
– Martin Bonner
Dec 12 at 15:01
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If you are planning to ascend from the top of the Klein Matterhorn cable car at 3800 m, it entirely depends: in the right conditions (clear skies, no wind, good snow) I imagine it would be little different from a summer ascent (2 hrs or so). But the approach is crevassed and steepens to 35 degrees at the top (which may be icy) so with your stated experience I certainly would not consider attempting it on your own.
– xnx
Dec 13 at 12:42
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@njzk2 Breithorn (along with Allalinhorn) is considered the easiest 4000m to climb and has been recommended as a great way to get introduced to alpinism! However, I think I'll avoid underestimating it and just go with a friend and a guide.
– Lowblow
Dec 13 at 16:10
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@Lowblow sounds reasonnable! (you can also get introduced to alpinism way below 4000m)
– njzk2
Dec 14 at 5:57