Any way to force files to inherit owner permissions from parent directory?











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Is there any way to force a file, created within a directory, to inherit ownership from the parent directory? I tried the sticky bit, but that doesn't seem to work.



Example of what I'm looking for:



drwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup parentdir


When parentdir/newfile.htm is created by someuser:



-rwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup newfile.htm


NOT



-rwxr-xr-x someuser somegroup newfile.htm


Any way this can be done? Thank you!










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  • The sticky bit or the setgid bit?
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 6:23










  • @muru, I believe they're one in the same. What I'm calling the sticky bit is the flag that makes sure children inherit the group owner from the parent directory.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:51










  • That's the setgid bit. The sticky bit is what you see on /tmp - which prevents others from deleting your files.
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 23:29










  • @muru: Ah! Thank you for clarifying that bit for me.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 23 '15 at 3:26

















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Is there any way to force a file, created within a directory, to inherit ownership from the parent directory? I tried the sticky bit, but that doesn't seem to work.



Example of what I'm looking for:



drwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup parentdir


When parentdir/newfile.htm is created by someuser:



-rwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup newfile.htm


NOT



-rwxr-xr-x someuser somegroup newfile.htm


Any way this can be done? Thank you!










share|improve this question






















  • The sticky bit or the setgid bit?
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 6:23










  • @muru, I believe they're one in the same. What I'm calling the sticky bit is the flag that makes sure children inherit the group owner from the parent directory.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:51










  • That's the setgid bit. The sticky bit is what you see on /tmp - which prevents others from deleting your files.
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 23:29










  • @muru: Ah! Thank you for clarifying that bit for me.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 23 '15 at 3:26















up vote
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up vote
3
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Is there any way to force a file, created within a directory, to inherit ownership from the parent directory? I tried the sticky bit, but that doesn't seem to work.



Example of what I'm looking for:



drwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup parentdir


When parentdir/newfile.htm is created by someuser:



-rwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup newfile.htm


NOT



-rwxr-xr-x someuser somegroup newfile.htm


Any way this can be done? Thank you!










share|improve this question













Is there any way to force a file, created within a directory, to inherit ownership from the parent directory? I tried the sticky bit, but that doesn't seem to work.



Example of what I'm looking for:



drwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup parentdir


When parentdir/newfile.htm is created by someuser:



-rwxrwxr-x www-data somegroup newfile.htm


NOT



-rwxr-xr-x someuser somegroup newfile.htm


Any way this can be done? Thank you!







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  • The sticky bit or the setgid bit?
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 6:23










  • @muru, I believe they're one in the same. What I'm calling the sticky bit is the flag that makes sure children inherit the group owner from the parent directory.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:51










  • That's the setgid bit. The sticky bit is what you see on /tmp - which prevents others from deleting your files.
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 23:29










  • @muru: Ah! Thank you for clarifying that bit for me.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 23 '15 at 3:26




















  • The sticky bit or the setgid bit?
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 6:23










  • @muru, I believe they're one in the same. What I'm calling the sticky bit is the flag that makes sure children inherit the group owner from the parent directory.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:51










  • That's the setgid bit. The sticky bit is what you see on /tmp - which prevents others from deleting your files.
    – muru
    May 22 '15 at 23:29










  • @muru: Ah! Thank you for clarifying that bit for me.
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 23 '15 at 3:26


















The sticky bit or the setgid bit?
– muru
May 22 '15 at 6:23




The sticky bit or the setgid bit?
– muru
May 22 '15 at 6:23












@muru, I believe they're one in the same. What I'm calling the sticky bit is the flag that makes sure children inherit the group owner from the parent directory.
– S. Wyatt Young
May 22 '15 at 22:51




@muru, I believe they're one in the same. What I'm calling the sticky bit is the flag that makes sure children inherit the group owner from the parent directory.
– S. Wyatt Young
May 22 '15 at 22:51












That's the setgid bit. The sticky bit is what you see on /tmp - which prevents others from deleting your files.
– muru
May 22 '15 at 23:29




That's the setgid bit. The sticky bit is what you see on /tmp - which prevents others from deleting your files.
– muru
May 22 '15 at 23:29












@muru: Ah! Thank you for clarifying that bit for me.
– S. Wyatt Young
May 23 '15 at 3:26






@muru: Ah! Thank you for clarifying that bit for me.
– S. Wyatt Young
May 23 '15 at 3:26












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You problem (it's not really a problem) raises in two parts as I understand from you.



First you want to give ownership of files created by a user in that directory directly to the apache user www-data. This can't be done that way.



In real life You can't give something to your friend if he doesn't want it!!



Same thing here, you can't give the ownership to some user without his permission.



So how to solve this here:



you still need to make chown



sudo chown www-data newfile.htm


The other needed is to change the permission of a file to inherits permission of parent directory.



This is not a good habit since the directory normally have execute permission x to make cd available in. But x for a normal file make it executable, and as those files as you mentioned are owned by www-data, this also makes you in trouble with a huge security threat, so my advice don't do it



But anyway if you still want to try : take a look for those two questions



https://superuser.com/questions/264383/how-to-set-file-permissions-so-that-new-files-inherit-same-permissions



https://superuser.com/questions/151911/how-to-make-new-file-permission-inherit-from-the-parent-directory






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  • Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:55











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You problem (it's not really a problem) raises in two parts as I understand from you.



First you want to give ownership of files created by a user in that directory directly to the apache user www-data. This can't be done that way.



In real life You can't give something to your friend if he doesn't want it!!



Same thing here, you can't give the ownership to some user without his permission.



So how to solve this here:



you still need to make chown



sudo chown www-data newfile.htm


The other needed is to change the permission of a file to inherits permission of parent directory.



This is not a good habit since the directory normally have execute permission x to make cd available in. But x for a normal file make it executable, and as those files as you mentioned are owned by www-data, this also makes you in trouble with a huge security threat, so my advice don't do it



But anyway if you still want to try : take a look for those two questions



https://superuser.com/questions/264383/how-to-set-file-permissions-so-that-new-files-inherit-same-permissions



https://superuser.com/questions/151911/how-to-make-new-file-permission-inherit-from-the-parent-directory






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  • Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:55















up vote
0
down vote













You problem (it's not really a problem) raises in two parts as I understand from you.



First you want to give ownership of files created by a user in that directory directly to the apache user www-data. This can't be done that way.



In real life You can't give something to your friend if he doesn't want it!!



Same thing here, you can't give the ownership to some user without his permission.



So how to solve this here:



you still need to make chown



sudo chown www-data newfile.htm


The other needed is to change the permission of a file to inherits permission of parent directory.



This is not a good habit since the directory normally have execute permission x to make cd available in. But x for a normal file make it executable, and as those files as you mentioned are owned by www-data, this also makes you in trouble with a huge security threat, so my advice don't do it



But anyway if you still want to try : take a look for those two questions



https://superuser.com/questions/264383/how-to-set-file-permissions-so-that-new-files-inherit-same-permissions



https://superuser.com/questions/151911/how-to-make-new-file-permission-inherit-from-the-parent-directory






share|improve this answer























  • Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:55













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up vote
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You problem (it's not really a problem) raises in two parts as I understand from you.



First you want to give ownership of files created by a user in that directory directly to the apache user www-data. This can't be done that way.



In real life You can't give something to your friend if he doesn't want it!!



Same thing here, you can't give the ownership to some user without his permission.



So how to solve this here:



you still need to make chown



sudo chown www-data newfile.htm


The other needed is to change the permission of a file to inherits permission of parent directory.



This is not a good habit since the directory normally have execute permission x to make cd available in. But x for a normal file make it executable, and as those files as you mentioned are owned by www-data, this also makes you in trouble with a huge security threat, so my advice don't do it



But anyway if you still want to try : take a look for those two questions



https://superuser.com/questions/264383/how-to-set-file-permissions-so-that-new-files-inherit-same-permissions



https://superuser.com/questions/151911/how-to-make-new-file-permission-inherit-from-the-parent-directory






share|improve this answer














You problem (it's not really a problem) raises in two parts as I understand from you.



First you want to give ownership of files created by a user in that directory directly to the apache user www-data. This can't be done that way.



In real life You can't give something to your friend if he doesn't want it!!



Same thing here, you can't give the ownership to some user without his permission.



So how to solve this here:



you still need to make chown



sudo chown www-data newfile.htm


The other needed is to change the permission of a file to inherits permission of parent directory.



This is not a good habit since the directory normally have execute permission x to make cd available in. But x for a normal file make it executable, and as those files as you mentioned are owned by www-data, this also makes you in trouble with a huge security threat, so my advice don't do it



But anyway if you still want to try : take a look for those two questions



https://superuser.com/questions/264383/how-to-set-file-permissions-so-that-new-files-inherit-same-permissions



https://superuser.com/questions/151911/how-to-make-new-file-permission-inherit-from-the-parent-directory







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  • Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:55


















  • Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
    – S. Wyatt Young
    May 22 '15 at 22:55
















Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
– S. Wyatt Young
May 22 '15 at 22:55




Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking to avoid changing permissions manually. Also, while HTML files don't need executability, scripts do. I might just be running scripts. :)
– S. Wyatt Young
May 22 '15 at 22:55


















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