Can “old man” be used by females to address unrelated older men?











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I'm a fan-translator, translating from Oriental languages to English, and I've been told to translate "uncle" to "old man", since a direct translation would imply a familial relation where there was none.



I just discovered that Google gives one of the definitions of "old man" as "an affectionate form of address between men or boys." But none of the dictionary sites say anything about "between men or boys," just something along the lines of "an affectionate term used in addressing a man." So have I been using it wrong, or is it okay for females to use the term too?










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    "Old man" is not necessarily an affectionate, nor even a neutral term in English.
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  • The definitions you mention -- both Google's and dictionaries' -- all specify that it's for addressing a man, not referring to one. So it wouldn't serve your purpose whether or not women use it.
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  • Yeah, I edited it to "address."
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I'm a fan-translator, translating from Oriental languages to English, and I've been told to translate "uncle" to "old man", since a direct translation would imply a familial relation where there was none.



I just discovered that Google gives one of the definitions of "old man" as "an affectionate form of address between men or boys." But none of the dictionary sites say anything about "between men or boys," just something along the lines of "an affectionate term used in addressing a man." So have I been using it wrong, or is it okay for females to use the term too?










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    "Old man" is not necessarily an affectionate, nor even a neutral term in English.
    – Robusto
    55 mins ago










  • Related
    – Robusto
    53 mins ago










  • The definitions you mention -- both Google's and dictionaries' -- all specify that it's for addressing a man, not referring to one. So it wouldn't serve your purpose whether or not women use it.
    – ruakh
    9 mins ago










  • Yeah, I edited it to "address."
    – xiiliea
    5 mins ago













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I'm a fan-translator, translating from Oriental languages to English, and I've been told to translate "uncle" to "old man", since a direct translation would imply a familial relation where there was none.



I just discovered that Google gives one of the definitions of "old man" as "an affectionate form of address between men or boys." But none of the dictionary sites say anything about "between men or boys," just something along the lines of "an affectionate term used in addressing a man." So have I been using it wrong, or is it okay for females to use the term too?










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I'm a fan-translator, translating from Oriental languages to English, and I've been told to translate "uncle" to "old man", since a direct translation would imply a familial relation where there was none.



I just discovered that Google gives one of the definitions of "old man" as "an affectionate form of address between men or boys." But none of the dictionary sites say anything about "between men or boys," just something along the lines of "an affectionate term used in addressing a man." So have I been using it wrong, or is it okay for females to use the term too?







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    "Old man" is not necessarily an affectionate, nor even a neutral term in English.
    – Robusto
    55 mins ago










  • Related
    – Robusto
    53 mins ago










  • The definitions you mention -- both Google's and dictionaries' -- all specify that it's for addressing a man, not referring to one. So it wouldn't serve your purpose whether or not women use it.
    – ruakh
    9 mins ago










  • Yeah, I edited it to "address."
    – xiiliea
    5 mins ago














  • 1




    "Old man" is not necessarily an affectionate, nor even a neutral term in English.
    – Robusto
    55 mins ago










  • Related
    – Robusto
    53 mins ago










  • The definitions you mention -- both Google's and dictionaries' -- all specify that it's for addressing a man, not referring to one. So it wouldn't serve your purpose whether or not women use it.
    – ruakh
    9 mins ago










  • Yeah, I edited it to "address."
    – xiiliea
    5 mins ago








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"Old man" is not necessarily an affectionate, nor even a neutral term in English.
– Robusto
55 mins ago




"Old man" is not necessarily an affectionate, nor even a neutral term in English.
– Robusto
55 mins ago












Related
– Robusto
53 mins ago




Related
– Robusto
53 mins ago












The definitions you mention -- both Google's and dictionaries' -- all specify that it's for addressing a man, not referring to one. So it wouldn't serve your purpose whether or not women use it.
– ruakh
9 mins ago




The definitions you mention -- both Google's and dictionaries' -- all specify that it's for addressing a man, not referring to one. So it wouldn't serve your purpose whether or not women use it.
– ruakh
9 mins ago












Yeah, I edited it to "address."
– xiiliea
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Yeah, I edited it to "address."
– xiiliea
5 mins ago










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Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.






I've heard "old man" used for "father", although, mainly from sons, not daughters.



Its use for uncles at all, is new to me.





I think, "Uncle" as a affectionate term, is usually used for family friends, usually mainly through the parents, as to have an "uncle-like" familiarity with them or something.





Give an example sentence and its translation, and we can decide further?






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  • Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
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Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.






I've heard "old man" used for "father", although, mainly from sons, not daughters.



Its use for uncles at all, is new to me.





I think, "Uncle" as a affectionate term, is usually used for family friends, usually mainly through the parents, as to have an "uncle-like" familiarity with them or something.





Give an example sentence and its translation, and we can decide further?






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  • Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
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Note: This was made before this comment from OP:




Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.






I've heard "old man" used for "father", although, mainly from sons, not daughters.



Its use for uncles at all, is new to me.





I think, "Uncle" as a affectionate term, is usually used for family friends, usually mainly through the parents, as to have an "uncle-like" familiarity with them or something.





Give an example sentence and its translation, and we can decide further?






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  • Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
    – xiiliea
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Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.






I've heard "old man" used for "father", although, mainly from sons, not daughters.



Its use for uncles at all, is new to me.





I think, "Uncle" as a affectionate term, is usually used for family friends, usually mainly through the parents, as to have an "uncle-like" familiarity with them or something.





Give an example sentence and its translation, and we can decide further?






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Note: This was made before this comment from OP:




Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.






I've heard "old man" used for "father", although, mainly from sons, not daughters.



Its use for uncles at all, is new to me.





I think, "Uncle" as a affectionate term, is usually used for family friends, usually mainly through the parents, as to have an "uncle-like" familiarity with them or something.





Give an example sentence and its translation, and we can decide further?







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  • Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
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  • Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
    – xiiliea
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Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
– xiiliea
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Ah, I wasn't referring to "uncle" in English as in a relative, but in Asian languages like Japanese, where it is normal to call any middle-aged man "uncle." So in English I just translate it to "old man" to refer to unrelated older men affectionately.
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