Is there a condition on which a child can be exempt from honoring his biological father?
This is a serious question seeking sources that discuss the topic.
I speculate, maybe a father that regrets his son being born, does not support him, does not teach him Torah or Mitzvos etc is considered "תוה על הראשונות" (Rambam, like one that regrets doing a Mitzvah is not rewarded for it), may somehow lose his right for Kibud Av of the child.
Maybe serious child abuse or even rape can suffice?
Any sources or thoughts on this?
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This is a serious question seeking sources that discuss the topic.
I speculate, maybe a father that regrets his son being born, does not support him, does not teach him Torah or Mitzvos etc is considered "תוה על הראשונות" (Rambam, like one that regrets doing a Mitzvah is not rewarded for it), may somehow lose his right for Kibud Av of the child.
Maybe serious child abuse or even rape can suffice?
Any sources or thoughts on this?
halacha kibbud-av-veim-honoring
"On the day that I was born, Daddy sat down and cried..."--Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia
– Gary
5 hours ago
Even a mamzer has to honor his parents, so the answer’s probably “no.”
– DonielF
3 hours ago
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@donielF a rasha is diff,see my answer
– sam
2 hours ago
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This is a serious question seeking sources that discuss the topic.
I speculate, maybe a father that regrets his son being born, does not support him, does not teach him Torah or Mitzvos etc is considered "תוה על הראשונות" (Rambam, like one that regrets doing a Mitzvah is not rewarded for it), may somehow lose his right for Kibud Av of the child.
Maybe serious child abuse or even rape can suffice?
Any sources or thoughts on this?
halacha kibbud-av-veim-honoring
This is a serious question seeking sources that discuss the topic.
I speculate, maybe a father that regrets his son being born, does not support him, does not teach him Torah or Mitzvos etc is considered "תוה על הראשונות" (Rambam, like one that regrets doing a Mitzvah is not rewarded for it), may somehow lose his right for Kibud Av of the child.
Maybe serious child abuse or even rape can suffice?
Any sources or thoughts on this?
halacha kibbud-av-veim-honoring
halacha kibbud-av-veim-honoring
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"On the day that I was born, Daddy sat down and cried..."--Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia
– Gary
5 hours ago
Even a mamzer has to honor his parents, so the answer’s probably “no.”
– DonielF
3 hours ago
1
@donielF a rasha is diff,see my answer
– sam
2 hours ago
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"On the day that I was born, Daddy sat down and cried..."--Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia
– Gary
5 hours ago
Even a mamzer has to honor his parents, so the answer’s probably “no.”
– DonielF
3 hours ago
1
@donielF a rasha is diff,see my answer
– sam
2 hours ago
"On the day that I was born, Daddy sat down and cried..."--Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia
– Gary
5 hours ago
"On the day that I was born, Daddy sat down and cried..."--Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia
– Gary
5 hours ago
Even a mamzer has to honor his parents, so the answer’s probably “no.”
– DonielF
3 hours ago
Even a mamzer has to honor his parents, so the answer’s probably “no.”
– DonielF
3 hours ago
1
1
@donielF a rasha is diff,see my answer
– sam
2 hours ago
@donielF a rasha is diff,see my answer
– sam
2 hours ago
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The Shulchan Aruch 240:18 discusses a father who is a Rasha. The Mechaber holds that there is Kibud av by a Rasha , but Ram"a argues.
Text of SA:
ממזר חייב בכבוד אביו ובמוראו. אפילו היה אביו רשע ובעל עבירות – מכבדו ומתיירא ממנו.
הגה: ויש אומרים דאינו מחוייב לכבד אביו רשע, אלא אם כן עשה תשובה. (טור ומרדכי פרק "כיצד", ובהגהות מיימוני פרק שישי דהלכות ממרים.)
There is a very good Hakira article on this subject.
Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
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The Shulchan Aruch 240:18 discusses a father who is a Rasha. The Mechaber holds that there is Kibud av by a Rasha , but Ram"a argues.
Text of SA:
ממזר חייב בכבוד אביו ובמוראו. אפילו היה אביו רשע ובעל עבירות – מכבדו ומתיירא ממנו.
הגה: ויש אומרים דאינו מחוייב לכבד אביו רשע, אלא אם כן עשה תשובה. (טור ומרדכי פרק "כיצד", ובהגהות מיימוני פרק שישי דהלכות ממרים.)
There is a very good Hakira article on this subject.
Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
6 mins ago
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The Shulchan Aruch 240:18 discusses a father who is a Rasha. The Mechaber holds that there is Kibud av by a Rasha , but Ram"a argues.
Text of SA:
ממזר חייב בכבוד אביו ובמוראו. אפילו היה אביו רשע ובעל עבירות – מכבדו ומתיירא ממנו.
הגה: ויש אומרים דאינו מחוייב לכבד אביו רשע, אלא אם כן עשה תשובה. (טור ומרדכי פרק "כיצד", ובהגהות מיימוני פרק שישי דהלכות ממרים.)
There is a very good Hakira article on this subject.
Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
6 mins ago
add a comment |
The Shulchan Aruch 240:18 discusses a father who is a Rasha. The Mechaber holds that there is Kibud av by a Rasha , but Ram"a argues.
Text of SA:
ממזר חייב בכבוד אביו ובמוראו. אפילו היה אביו רשע ובעל עבירות – מכבדו ומתיירא ממנו.
הגה: ויש אומרים דאינו מחוייב לכבד אביו רשע, אלא אם כן עשה תשובה. (טור ומרדכי פרק "כיצד", ובהגהות מיימוני פרק שישי דהלכות ממרים.)
There is a very good Hakira article on this subject.
The Shulchan Aruch 240:18 discusses a father who is a Rasha. The Mechaber holds that there is Kibud av by a Rasha , but Ram"a argues.
Text of SA:
ממזר חייב בכבוד אביו ובמוראו. אפילו היה אביו רשע ובעל עבירות – מכבדו ומתיירא ממנו.
הגה: ויש אומרים דאינו מחוייב לכבד אביו רשע, אלא אם כן עשה תשובה. (טור ומרדכי פרק "כיצד", ובהגהות מיימוני פרק שישי דהלכות ממרים.)
There is a very good Hakira article on this subject.
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Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
6 mins ago
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Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
6 mins ago
Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
6 mins ago
Good answer, +1. Consider summarizing some of the points in the article.
– רבות מחשבות
6 mins ago
add a comment |
"On the day that I was born, Daddy sat down and cried..."--Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia
– Gary
5 hours ago
Even a mamzer has to honor his parents, so the answer’s probably “no.”
– DonielF
3 hours ago
1
@donielF a rasha is diff,see my answer
– sam
2 hours ago