Space issues on 32 GB Windows 10 mini PC
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I recently bought a cheap Windows 10 mini PC with only 32 GB of space.
I installed it two days ago, and after the installation (more activation than installation) I had about 13 GB of free space.
A few minutes after activating the Windows instance, I enabled Windows Update, and a few hours later, I noticed that only 3 GB left.
This morning I found out that less than a GB of free space is left.
Please note that I have NOTHING installed on this computer, besides Windows and the Windows Update service (and an upgraded driver of the Intel HD graphics).
I knew it's going to be a challenge to work with only 32 GB of disk space, but I didn't expect that Windows alone takes more than 30 GB.
I have an SD slot, and I planned to use it for my files and applications, but it seems that the OS directory is not enough for the OS alone, so the question is what can I do? I have already run the disk cleanup, deleted temporary files, etc. How can I minimize the storage space consumed by Windows?
Can I move things to the SD card?
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I recently bought a cheap Windows 10 mini PC with only 32 GB of space.
I installed it two days ago, and after the installation (more activation than installation) I had about 13 GB of free space.
A few minutes after activating the Windows instance, I enabled Windows Update, and a few hours later, I noticed that only 3 GB left.
This morning I found out that less than a GB of free space is left.
Please note that I have NOTHING installed on this computer, besides Windows and the Windows Update service (and an upgraded driver of the Intel HD graphics).
I knew it's going to be a challenge to work with only 32 GB of disk space, but I didn't expect that Windows alone takes more than 30 GB.
I have an SD slot, and I planned to use it for my files and applications, but it seems that the OS directory is not enough for the OS alone, so the question is what can I do? I have already run the disk cleanup, deleted temporary files, etc. How can I minimize the storage space consumed by Windows?
Can I move things to the SD card?
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A lot of the space will be taken up with windows update patch cache, which it should clear down once the update has been installed. Have you installed all the updates? How big is your %windir%winsxs directory?
– spikey_richie
17 hours ago
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Is this PC by any chance running a non-current version of Windows 10? It might be trying to install the Windows 10 1809 upgrade.
– Daniel B
17 hours ago
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32 GB is laughable for Windows 10 let alone 2018 in general. The vendor should be thrown in jail. Was it one of these POS's dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/…? you say "mini pc", does this mean an actual PC or a laptop? If an actual PC then you might be able to upgrade the storage.
– MonkeyZeus
12 hours ago
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@MonkeyZeus I don't disagree with your point, but it is also laughable that Windows 10 is so bloated that a 32GB storage capacity is a problem. Perhaps we should also throw a few Microsoft employees in jail to keep the vendor company!
– Jon Bentley
10 hours ago
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@JonBentley Kind of, sort of agree. I believe Windows 10 is pre-allocating space before updating or something to that effect for stability reasons which I do agree with. Just because a vendor decided to hobble the computers they sell to make it more appealing to lower incomes and children does not make it right. Given that storage space is such a cheap commodity, Microsoft is in the right imho. I cannot imagine that a 64 GB version would have been obscenely more expensive than the 32 that they saddled it with. For an extra $15 it could have been a useful PC but it's a paperweight as of now
– MonkeyZeus
10 hours ago
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I recently bought a cheap Windows 10 mini PC with only 32 GB of space.
I installed it two days ago, and after the installation (more activation than installation) I had about 13 GB of free space.
A few minutes after activating the Windows instance, I enabled Windows Update, and a few hours later, I noticed that only 3 GB left.
This morning I found out that less than a GB of free space is left.
Please note that I have NOTHING installed on this computer, besides Windows and the Windows Update service (and an upgraded driver of the Intel HD graphics).
I knew it's going to be a challenge to work with only 32 GB of disk space, but I didn't expect that Windows alone takes more than 30 GB.
I have an SD slot, and I planned to use it for my files and applications, but it seems that the OS directory is not enough for the OS alone, so the question is what can I do? I have already run the disk cleanup, deleted temporary files, etc. How can I minimize the storage space consumed by Windows?
Can I move things to the SD card?
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I recently bought a cheap Windows 10 mini PC with only 32 GB of space.
I installed it two days ago, and after the installation (more activation than installation) I had about 13 GB of free space.
A few minutes after activating the Windows instance, I enabled Windows Update, and a few hours later, I noticed that only 3 GB left.
This morning I found out that less than a GB of free space is left.
Please note that I have NOTHING installed on this computer, besides Windows and the Windows Update service (and an upgraded driver of the Intel HD graphics).
I knew it's going to be a challenge to work with only 32 GB of disk space, but I didn't expect that Windows alone takes more than 30 GB.
I have an SD slot, and I planned to use it for my files and applications, but it seems that the OS directory is not enough for the OS alone, so the question is what can I do? I have already run the disk cleanup, deleted temporary files, etc. How can I minimize the storage space consumed by Windows?
Can I move things to the SD card?
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A lot of the space will be taken up with windows update patch cache, which it should clear down once the update has been installed. Have you installed all the updates? How big is your %windir%winsxs directory?
– spikey_richie
17 hours ago
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Is this PC by any chance running a non-current version of Windows 10? It might be trying to install the Windows 10 1809 upgrade.
– Daniel B
17 hours ago
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32 GB is laughable for Windows 10 let alone 2018 in general. The vendor should be thrown in jail. Was it one of these POS's dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/…? you say "mini pc", does this mean an actual PC or a laptop? If an actual PC then you might be able to upgrade the storage.
– MonkeyZeus
12 hours ago
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@MonkeyZeus I don't disagree with your point, but it is also laughable that Windows 10 is so bloated that a 32GB storage capacity is a problem. Perhaps we should also throw a few Microsoft employees in jail to keep the vendor company!
– Jon Bentley
10 hours ago
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@JonBentley Kind of, sort of agree. I believe Windows 10 is pre-allocating space before updating or something to that effect for stability reasons which I do agree with. Just because a vendor decided to hobble the computers they sell to make it more appealing to lower incomes and children does not make it right. Given that storage space is such a cheap commodity, Microsoft is in the right imho. I cannot imagine that a 64 GB version would have been obscenely more expensive than the 32 that they saddled it with. For an extra $15 it could have been a useful PC but it's a paperweight as of now
– MonkeyZeus
10 hours ago
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A lot of the space will be taken up with windows update patch cache, which it should clear down once the update has been installed. Have you installed all the updates? How big is your %windir%winsxs directory?
– spikey_richie
17 hours ago
3
Is this PC by any chance running a non-current version of Windows 10? It might be trying to install the Windows 10 1809 upgrade.
– Daniel B
17 hours ago
4
32 GB is laughable for Windows 10 let alone 2018 in general. The vendor should be thrown in jail. Was it one of these POS's dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/…? you say "mini pc", does this mean an actual PC or a laptop? If an actual PC then you might be able to upgrade the storage.
– MonkeyZeus
12 hours ago
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@MonkeyZeus I don't disagree with your point, but it is also laughable that Windows 10 is so bloated that a 32GB storage capacity is a problem. Perhaps we should also throw a few Microsoft employees in jail to keep the vendor company!
– Jon Bentley
10 hours ago
2
@JonBentley Kind of, sort of agree. I believe Windows 10 is pre-allocating space before updating or something to that effect for stability reasons which I do agree with. Just because a vendor decided to hobble the computers they sell to make it more appealing to lower incomes and children does not make it right. Given that storage space is such a cheap commodity, Microsoft is in the right imho. I cannot imagine that a 64 GB version would have been obscenely more expensive than the 32 that they saddled it with. For an extra $15 it could have been a useful PC but it's a paperweight as of now
– MonkeyZeus
10 hours ago
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A lot of the space will be taken up with windows update patch cache, which it should clear down once the update has been installed. Have you installed all the updates? How big is your %windir%winsxs directory?
– spikey_richie
17 hours ago
A lot of the space will be taken up with windows update patch cache, which it should clear down once the update has been installed. Have you installed all the updates? How big is your %windir%winsxs directory?
– spikey_richie
17 hours ago
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3
Is this PC by any chance running a non-current version of Windows 10? It might be trying to install the Windows 10 1809 upgrade.
– Daniel B
17 hours ago
Is this PC by any chance running a non-current version of Windows 10? It might be trying to install the Windows 10 1809 upgrade.
– Daniel B
17 hours ago
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4
32 GB is laughable for Windows 10 let alone 2018 in general. The vendor should be thrown in jail. Was it one of these POS's dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/…? you say "mini pc", does this mean an actual PC or a laptop? If an actual PC then you might be able to upgrade the storage.
– MonkeyZeus
12 hours ago
32 GB is laughable for Windows 10 let alone 2018 in general. The vendor should be thrown in jail. Was it one of these POS's dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/…? you say "mini pc", does this mean an actual PC or a laptop? If an actual PC then you might be able to upgrade the storage.
– MonkeyZeus
12 hours ago
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@MonkeyZeus I don't disagree with your point, but it is also laughable that Windows 10 is so bloated that a 32GB storage capacity is a problem. Perhaps we should also throw a few Microsoft employees in jail to keep the vendor company!
– Jon Bentley
10 hours ago
@MonkeyZeus I don't disagree with your point, but it is also laughable that Windows 10 is so bloated that a 32GB storage capacity is a problem. Perhaps we should also throw a few Microsoft employees in jail to keep the vendor company!
– Jon Bentley
10 hours ago
2
2
@JonBentley Kind of, sort of agree. I believe Windows 10 is pre-allocating space before updating or something to that effect for stability reasons which I do agree with. Just because a vendor decided to hobble the computers they sell to make it more appealing to lower incomes and children does not make it right. Given that storage space is such a cheap commodity, Microsoft is in the right imho. I cannot imagine that a 64 GB version would have been obscenely more expensive than the 32 that they saddled it with. For an extra $15 it could have been a useful PC but it's a paperweight as of now
– MonkeyZeus
10 hours ago
@JonBentley Kind of, sort of agree. I believe Windows 10 is pre-allocating space before updating or something to that effect for stability reasons which I do agree with. Just because a vendor decided to hobble the computers they sell to make it more appealing to lower incomes and children does not make it right. Given that storage space is such a cheap commodity, Microsoft is in the right imho. I cannot imagine that a 64 GB version would have been obscenely more expensive than the 32 that they saddled it with. For an extra $15 it could have been a useful PC but it's a paperweight as of now
– MonkeyZeus
10 hours ago
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The Windows feature updates will consume approximately 3-5GB once ready to install, but the download of the feature update itself is done via Windows update and can consume a lot more in preparation for the update.
After the update you will have the old Windows directory as well as the new one. The Windows.old directory is regularly around 20Gb on a PC with a reasonable amount of software installed.
You might be able to compress your operating system files by opening an administrator cmd prompt and using the built in command
compact.exe /CompactOS:always
Which might save you a few GB of storage space once it it done.
What you can do to free up disk space after updates, particularly a feature update, is to use the Windows Disk Cleanup tool.
You can get to the tool by going to "This PC" (formerly "My Computer") in Explorer, right clicking the disk, then selecting properties and clicking the disk cleanup button.
It will spend a few moments checking what space can be freed up before opening properly.
Once it has opened look towards the bottom right of the tool for the "Clean up system files" button and click it. This will then scan again but this time the "files to delete" list will be populated with feature updates and windows update cleanup amongst others.
Hopefully that should be enough to free up sufficient space.
Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
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@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off withcompact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.
– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
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It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of theWindows.old
directory.
– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
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Do you have any specific needs that require the PC to be running Windows 10? Perhaps you could instead install a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu? I ask because I was in the same boat as you. Bought a super cheap Lenovo netbook with 32GB eMMC and 2GB Ram. I thought it'd be fine since my only intent was to use it for browser based items.
However, the Windows update process was always consuming ALL of the 32gb of space but still never enough space to actually do the update. That combined with the limited ram meant the thing moved like a slug.
I tried many of the techniques mentioned in other answers here. But eventually got tired of constantly fighting the battle and decided I didn't need Windows 10 on this machine. I wiped Windows and installed Lubuntu. It's been great, meets my needs for this machine, and it runs much better now.
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Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
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As noted by @spikey_richie, the likely culprit is your winsxs or (Windows Side-by-Side directory). Every patch or update that happens on the system gets duplicated and stored in this directory. It is Windows way to provide rapid roll-back of a patch or update in case of error/component failure. It can get very large (dozens of GBs) and grows over time.
Here are some very complete referenes talking about why it happens and how to resolve the size. This removal of older files is fine, unless you have system issues because removing the system backup will limit your ability to recover or roll back to a known-good state.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/82643-clean-up-component-store-winsxs-folder-windows-10-a.html
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/10/08/breaking-news-reduce-the-size-of-the-winsxs-directory-and-free-up-disk-space-with-a-new-update-for-windows-7-sp1-clients/
Edit: You should have about 100GB for the C: volume if you don't want to manage it manually just for Windows. That number grows if you install 3rd party apps to C: as well.
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Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
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Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
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It seems likely that this is a feature update which requires at least 16GB free space.
I've been keeping a 32GB HP Stream 7 going for a while. The best way to install a feature update on something this size is to do a clean install.
The procedure I use is this:
- When a feature upgrade is announced set the internet connection to metered to prevent it being downloaded in the background.
- On a better provisioned computer, use the Media Creation Tool to make an installation USB drive.
- Download drivers from the manufacturer's website to a USB drive in case Windows doesn't include them all.
- Save all the data you need to keep on the 32GB device to an external drive or OneDrive, for example.
- Boot from the USB drive.
- Choose Custom Install and delete all partitions.
- Install Windows.
- Run Windows Update. If there are still any drivers missing install them from the ones you downloaded.
- Reinstall any programs.
- Restore data.
On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
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The Windows feature updates will consume approximately 3-5GB once ready to install, but the download of the feature update itself is done via Windows update and can consume a lot more in preparation for the update.
After the update you will have the old Windows directory as well as the new one. The Windows.old directory is regularly around 20Gb on a PC with a reasonable amount of software installed.
You might be able to compress your operating system files by opening an administrator cmd prompt and using the built in command
compact.exe /CompactOS:always
Which might save you a few GB of storage space once it it done.
What you can do to free up disk space after updates, particularly a feature update, is to use the Windows Disk Cleanup tool.
You can get to the tool by going to "This PC" (formerly "My Computer") in Explorer, right clicking the disk, then selecting properties and clicking the disk cleanup button.
It will spend a few moments checking what space can be freed up before opening properly.
Once it has opened look towards the bottom right of the tool for the "Clean up system files" button and click it. This will then scan again but this time the "files to delete" list will be populated with feature updates and windows update cleanup amongst others.
Hopefully that should be enough to free up sufficient space.
Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
2
@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off withcompact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.
– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
2
It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of theWindows.old
directory.
– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
11
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The Windows feature updates will consume approximately 3-5GB once ready to install, but the download of the feature update itself is done via Windows update and can consume a lot more in preparation for the update.
After the update you will have the old Windows directory as well as the new one. The Windows.old directory is regularly around 20Gb on a PC with a reasonable amount of software installed.
You might be able to compress your operating system files by opening an administrator cmd prompt and using the built in command
compact.exe /CompactOS:always
Which might save you a few GB of storage space once it it done.
What you can do to free up disk space after updates, particularly a feature update, is to use the Windows Disk Cleanup tool.
You can get to the tool by going to "This PC" (formerly "My Computer") in Explorer, right clicking the disk, then selecting properties and clicking the disk cleanup button.
It will spend a few moments checking what space can be freed up before opening properly.
Once it has opened look towards the bottom right of the tool for the "Clean up system files" button and click it. This will then scan again but this time the "files to delete" list will be populated with feature updates and windows update cleanup amongst others.
Hopefully that should be enough to free up sufficient space.
Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
2
@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off withcompact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.
– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
2
It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of theWindows.old
directory.
– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
11
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up vote
11
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The Windows feature updates will consume approximately 3-5GB once ready to install, but the download of the feature update itself is done via Windows update and can consume a lot more in preparation for the update.
After the update you will have the old Windows directory as well as the new one. The Windows.old directory is regularly around 20Gb on a PC with a reasonable amount of software installed.
You might be able to compress your operating system files by opening an administrator cmd prompt and using the built in command
compact.exe /CompactOS:always
Which might save you a few GB of storage space once it it done.
What you can do to free up disk space after updates, particularly a feature update, is to use the Windows Disk Cleanup tool.
You can get to the tool by going to "This PC" (formerly "My Computer") in Explorer, right clicking the disk, then selecting properties and clicking the disk cleanup button.
It will spend a few moments checking what space can be freed up before opening properly.
Once it has opened look towards the bottom right of the tool for the "Clean up system files" button and click it. This will then scan again but this time the "files to delete" list will be populated with feature updates and windows update cleanup amongst others.
Hopefully that should be enough to free up sufficient space.
The Windows feature updates will consume approximately 3-5GB once ready to install, but the download of the feature update itself is done via Windows update and can consume a lot more in preparation for the update.
After the update you will have the old Windows directory as well as the new one. The Windows.old directory is regularly around 20Gb on a PC with a reasonable amount of software installed.
You might be able to compress your operating system files by opening an administrator cmd prompt and using the built in command
compact.exe /CompactOS:always
Which might save you a few GB of storage space once it it done.
What you can do to free up disk space after updates, particularly a feature update, is to use the Windows Disk Cleanup tool.
You can get to the tool by going to "This PC" (formerly "My Computer") in Explorer, right clicking the disk, then selecting properties and clicking the disk cleanup button.
It will spend a few moments checking what space can be freed up before opening properly.
Once it has opened look towards the bottom right of the tool for the "Clean up system files" button and click it. This will then scan again but this time the "files to delete" list will be populated with feature updates and windows update cleanup amongst others.
Hopefully that should be enough to free up sufficient space.
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Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
2
@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off withcompact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.
– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
2
It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of theWindows.old
directory.
– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
add a comment |
Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
2
@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off withcompact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.
– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
2
It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of theWindows.old
directory.
– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
Thanks for that. I assume there is a performance penalty for the compression. How significant is it (the PC is running on ATOM CPU)? In addition - Now we are 2 days after I enabled the update, and the space is not released, so I guess we will not be in the "after the update" phase...
– Matan
15 hours ago
2
2
@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off with
compact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
@Matan in theory the penalty should be minimal, as you are trading slow read speed for some increase in CPU usage. You can easily turn the feature back off with
compact.exe /CompactOS:never
in order to benchmark. I've also added some detail of how to use Disk Cleanup to recover some space.– Mokubai♦
14 hours ago
2
2
It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of the
Windows.old
directory.– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
It's unclear if you are recommending the deletion of the
Windows.old
directory.– JPhi1618
12 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
Does this mean that if OP fills up his computer with a reasonable amount of stuff, Windows updates won't work correctly, because they won't have enough free space to do the download/install? If OP had nothing of his own on his machine, and he only had less than 1 gig left, must he always keep to under a gig then? Your suggestions help after the update.
– pushkin
10 hours ago
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Do you have any specific needs that require the PC to be running Windows 10? Perhaps you could instead install a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu? I ask because I was in the same boat as you. Bought a super cheap Lenovo netbook with 32GB eMMC and 2GB Ram. I thought it'd be fine since my only intent was to use it for browser based items.
However, the Windows update process was always consuming ALL of the 32gb of space but still never enough space to actually do the update. That combined with the limited ram meant the thing moved like a slug.
I tried many of the techniques mentioned in other answers here. But eventually got tired of constantly fighting the battle and decided I didn't need Windows 10 on this machine. I wiped Windows and installed Lubuntu. It's been great, meets my needs for this machine, and it runs much better now.
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Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
4 hours ago
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Do you have any specific needs that require the PC to be running Windows 10? Perhaps you could instead install a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu? I ask because I was in the same boat as you. Bought a super cheap Lenovo netbook with 32GB eMMC and 2GB Ram. I thought it'd be fine since my only intent was to use it for browser based items.
However, the Windows update process was always consuming ALL of the 32gb of space but still never enough space to actually do the update. That combined with the limited ram meant the thing moved like a slug.
I tried many of the techniques mentioned in other answers here. But eventually got tired of constantly fighting the battle and decided I didn't need Windows 10 on this machine. I wiped Windows and installed Lubuntu. It's been great, meets my needs for this machine, and it runs much better now.
New contributor
Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
4 hours ago
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up vote
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Do you have any specific needs that require the PC to be running Windows 10? Perhaps you could instead install a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu? I ask because I was in the same boat as you. Bought a super cheap Lenovo netbook with 32GB eMMC and 2GB Ram. I thought it'd be fine since my only intent was to use it for browser based items.
However, the Windows update process was always consuming ALL of the 32gb of space but still never enough space to actually do the update. That combined with the limited ram meant the thing moved like a slug.
I tried many of the techniques mentioned in other answers here. But eventually got tired of constantly fighting the battle and decided I didn't need Windows 10 on this machine. I wiped Windows and installed Lubuntu. It's been great, meets my needs for this machine, and it runs much better now.
New contributor
Do you have any specific needs that require the PC to be running Windows 10? Perhaps you could instead install a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu? I ask because I was in the same boat as you. Bought a super cheap Lenovo netbook with 32GB eMMC and 2GB Ram. I thought it'd be fine since my only intent was to use it for browser based items.
However, the Windows update process was always consuming ALL of the 32gb of space but still never enough space to actually do the update. That combined with the limited ram meant the thing moved like a slug.
I tried many of the techniques mentioned in other answers here. But eventually got tired of constantly fighting the battle and decided I didn't need Windows 10 on this machine. I wiped Windows and installed Lubuntu. It's been great, meets my needs for this machine, and it runs much better now.
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Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
4 hours ago
Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
Yes. I also have a raspberry pi which handles the linux stuff... I need it in order to run applications and services that runs only on windows.
– Matan
10 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
4 hours ago
+1. Did a similar thing last week on my tablet as it simply refuses to upgrade to 1803, was surprised that Ubuntu actually has fair hardware compatibility after minor tweaking. OP has a point though, there are usecases that just can't be satisfied by Linux distros.
– Andy Yan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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As noted by @spikey_richie, the likely culprit is your winsxs or (Windows Side-by-Side directory). Every patch or update that happens on the system gets duplicated and stored in this directory. It is Windows way to provide rapid roll-back of a patch or update in case of error/component failure. It can get very large (dozens of GBs) and grows over time.
Here are some very complete referenes talking about why it happens and how to resolve the size. This removal of older files is fine, unless you have system issues because removing the system backup will limit your ability to recover or roll back to a known-good state.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/82643-clean-up-component-store-winsxs-folder-windows-10-a.html
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/10/08/breaking-news-reduce-the-size-of-the-winsxs-directory-and-free-up-disk-space-with-a-new-update-for-windows-7-sp1-clients/
Edit: You should have about 100GB for the C: volume if you don't want to manage it manually just for Windows. That number grows if you install 3rd party apps to C: as well.
2
Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
1
Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
15 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
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As noted by @spikey_richie, the likely culprit is your winsxs or (Windows Side-by-Side directory). Every patch or update that happens on the system gets duplicated and stored in this directory. It is Windows way to provide rapid roll-back of a patch or update in case of error/component failure. It can get very large (dozens of GBs) and grows over time.
Here are some very complete referenes talking about why it happens and how to resolve the size. This removal of older files is fine, unless you have system issues because removing the system backup will limit your ability to recover or roll back to a known-good state.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/82643-clean-up-component-store-winsxs-folder-windows-10-a.html
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/10/08/breaking-news-reduce-the-size-of-the-winsxs-directory-and-free-up-disk-space-with-a-new-update-for-windows-7-sp1-clients/
Edit: You should have about 100GB for the C: volume if you don't want to manage it manually just for Windows. That number grows if you install 3rd party apps to C: as well.
2
Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
1
Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
15 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
As noted by @spikey_richie, the likely culprit is your winsxs or (Windows Side-by-Side directory). Every patch or update that happens on the system gets duplicated and stored in this directory. It is Windows way to provide rapid roll-back of a patch or update in case of error/component failure. It can get very large (dozens of GBs) and grows over time.
Here are some very complete referenes talking about why it happens and how to resolve the size. This removal of older files is fine, unless you have system issues because removing the system backup will limit your ability to recover or roll back to a known-good state.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/82643-clean-up-component-store-winsxs-folder-windows-10-a.html
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/10/08/breaking-news-reduce-the-size-of-the-winsxs-directory-and-free-up-disk-space-with-a-new-update-for-windows-7-sp1-clients/
Edit: You should have about 100GB for the C: volume if you don't want to manage it manually just for Windows. That number grows if you install 3rd party apps to C: as well.
As noted by @spikey_richie, the likely culprit is your winsxs or (Windows Side-by-Side directory). Every patch or update that happens on the system gets duplicated and stored in this directory. It is Windows way to provide rapid roll-back of a patch or update in case of error/component failure. It can get very large (dozens of GBs) and grows over time.
Here are some very complete referenes talking about why it happens and how to resolve the size. This removal of older files is fine, unless you have system issues because removing the system backup will limit your ability to recover or roll back to a known-good state.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/82643-clean-up-component-store-winsxs-folder-windows-10-a.html
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/10/08/breaking-news-reduce-the-size-of-the-winsxs-directory-and-free-up-disk-space-with-a-new-update-for-windows-7-sp1-clients/
Edit: You should have about 100GB for the C: volume if you don't want to manage it manually just for Windows. That number grows if you install 3rd party apps to C: as well.
answered 17 hours ago
thepip3r
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Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
1
Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
15 hours ago
add a comment |
2
Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
1
Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
15 hours ago
2
2
Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the steps outlined in the link(s) that solve the problem? Otherwise if the links go down your answer has little value to future users with the same problem.
– Saaru Lindestøkke
16 hours ago
1
1
Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
15 hours ago
Thanks! I will try it. I did not understand the comment regarding the 100GB in C: - What do you mean by "if you don't want to manage it manually just for windows"? This PC has only 32gb, so it sounds like a relevant comment...
– Matan
15 hours ago
add a comment |
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It seems likely that this is a feature update which requires at least 16GB free space.
I've been keeping a 32GB HP Stream 7 going for a while. The best way to install a feature update on something this size is to do a clean install.
The procedure I use is this:
- When a feature upgrade is announced set the internet connection to metered to prevent it being downloaded in the background.
- On a better provisioned computer, use the Media Creation Tool to make an installation USB drive.
- Download drivers from the manufacturer's website to a USB drive in case Windows doesn't include them all.
- Save all the data you need to keep on the 32GB device to an external drive or OneDrive, for example.
- Boot from the USB drive.
- Choose Custom Install and delete all partitions.
- Install Windows.
- Run Windows Update. If there are still any drivers missing install them from the ones you downloaded.
- Reinstall any programs.
- Restore data.
On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
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It seems likely that this is a feature update which requires at least 16GB free space.
I've been keeping a 32GB HP Stream 7 going for a while. The best way to install a feature update on something this size is to do a clean install.
The procedure I use is this:
- When a feature upgrade is announced set the internet connection to metered to prevent it being downloaded in the background.
- On a better provisioned computer, use the Media Creation Tool to make an installation USB drive.
- Download drivers from the manufacturer's website to a USB drive in case Windows doesn't include them all.
- Save all the data you need to keep on the 32GB device to an external drive or OneDrive, for example.
- Boot from the USB drive.
- Choose Custom Install and delete all partitions.
- Install Windows.
- Run Windows Update. If there are still any drivers missing install them from the ones you downloaded.
- Reinstall any programs.
- Restore data.
On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
It seems likely that this is a feature update which requires at least 16GB free space.
I've been keeping a 32GB HP Stream 7 going for a while. The best way to install a feature update on something this size is to do a clean install.
The procedure I use is this:
- When a feature upgrade is announced set the internet connection to metered to prevent it being downloaded in the background.
- On a better provisioned computer, use the Media Creation Tool to make an installation USB drive.
- Download drivers from the manufacturer's website to a USB drive in case Windows doesn't include them all.
- Save all the data you need to keep on the 32GB device to an external drive or OneDrive, for example.
- Boot from the USB drive.
- Choose Custom Install and delete all partitions.
- Install Windows.
- Run Windows Update. If there are still any drivers missing install them from the ones you downloaded.
- Reinstall any programs.
- Restore data.
It seems likely that this is a feature update which requires at least 16GB free space.
I've been keeping a 32GB HP Stream 7 going for a while. The best way to install a feature update on something this size is to do a clean install.
The procedure I use is this:
- When a feature upgrade is announced set the internet connection to metered to prevent it being downloaded in the background.
- On a better provisioned computer, use the Media Creation Tool to make an installation USB drive.
- Download drivers from the manufacturer's website to a USB drive in case Windows doesn't include them all.
- Save all the data you need to keep on the 32GB device to an external drive or OneDrive, for example.
- Boot from the USB drive.
- Choose Custom Install and delete all partitions.
- Install Windows.
- Run Windows Update. If there are still any drivers missing install them from the ones you downloaded.
- Reinstall any programs.
- Restore data.
answered 12 hours ago
David Marshall
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On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
add a comment |
On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
On the other computer I have windows 10 pro so I'm not sure I can use it to create the USB drive. In addition, what should I do with the license? If I create the drive on a different computer?
– Matan
10 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
@Matan It's fine. The downloaded version is good for Home and Pro. It will get activated either from the BIOS or via your Microsoft Account.
– David Marshall
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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A lot of the space will be taken up with windows update patch cache, which it should clear down once the update has been installed. Have you installed all the updates? How big is your %windir%winsxs directory?
– spikey_richie
17 hours ago
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Is this PC by any chance running a non-current version of Windows 10? It might be trying to install the Windows 10 1809 upgrade.
– Daniel B
17 hours ago
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32 GB is laughable for Windows 10 let alone 2018 in general. The vendor should be thrown in jail. Was it one of these POS's dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/…? you say "mini pc", does this mean an actual PC or a laptop? If an actual PC then you might be able to upgrade the storage.
– MonkeyZeus
12 hours ago
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@MonkeyZeus I don't disagree with your point, but it is also laughable that Windows 10 is so bloated that a 32GB storage capacity is a problem. Perhaps we should also throw a few Microsoft employees in jail to keep the vendor company!
– Jon Bentley
10 hours ago
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@JonBentley Kind of, sort of agree. I believe Windows 10 is pre-allocating space before updating or something to that effect for stability reasons which I do agree with. Just because a vendor decided to hobble the computers they sell to make it more appealing to lower incomes and children does not make it right. Given that storage space is such a cheap commodity, Microsoft is in the right imho. I cannot imagine that a 64 GB version would have been obscenely more expensive than the 32 that they saddled it with. For an extra $15 it could have been a useful PC but it's a paperweight as of now
– MonkeyZeus
10 hours ago