Reason for orphaned inodes and boot failure fixable by manual fsck?












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I am running 18.04.1 and I have recently gotten an error while booting - the screen remains black after POST and nothing happens. I went into recovery mode and found that my root partition doesn't get mounted due to orphaned inodes and the like - I cannot supply a log since I have rebooted twice since fixing that and I do not actually know how to access historical boot logs. I could fix it by running fsck.ext4 -p /dev/mapper/name-of-root-partition, and everything is fine and dandy again... However, I know this will probably happen again in the future, as I have had the exact same problem with Debian - it was in fact one of the reasons I switched to Ubuntu (the other being worse compatibility on Debian and some other small problems I didn't feel like fixing by hand, on Ubuntu it just werks).



Now fixing the problem is easy and rather pain-free, but I wonder what could be the reason, as it happens fairly frequently (I reckon twice a week) - I realized it might have something to do with me shutting the computer down with sudo shutdown now. Am I on the right track? I could not find any proper information about this approach being "dangerous" but at the same time everybody seems to be inputting various arguments before now, never running it "raw".



My hardware is pretty generic and I would assume rather unimportant, really. I have a single Kingston SSD and the weirdest thing in my setup is probably me forcing the kernel to load amdgpu instead of the default radeon drivers.










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  • sudo shutdown now would not leave you with orphaned inodes, let alone an unbootable system.
    – Jos
    Jan 7 at 12:48










  • I knew one fellow who dutifully told the system to shutdown the right way, then (unwisely) immediately held the power button. You're not doing anything like that are you?
    – user535733
    Jan 7 at 13:08










  • Oh, no, nothing of the like. I just went with sudo shutdown now and washed my hands of the all thing, letting it die, which usually happened immediately. Now, just in case, I use the dedicated "power button" in the tray, choosing "Shutdown" (without invoking it through shell). But apparently it is not necessary?
    – Michal Tomaszuk
    2 days ago
















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my first post here.



I am running 18.04.1 and I have recently gotten an error while booting - the screen remains black after POST and nothing happens. I went into recovery mode and found that my root partition doesn't get mounted due to orphaned inodes and the like - I cannot supply a log since I have rebooted twice since fixing that and I do not actually know how to access historical boot logs. I could fix it by running fsck.ext4 -p /dev/mapper/name-of-root-partition, and everything is fine and dandy again... However, I know this will probably happen again in the future, as I have had the exact same problem with Debian - it was in fact one of the reasons I switched to Ubuntu (the other being worse compatibility on Debian and some other small problems I didn't feel like fixing by hand, on Ubuntu it just werks).



Now fixing the problem is easy and rather pain-free, but I wonder what could be the reason, as it happens fairly frequently (I reckon twice a week) - I realized it might have something to do with me shutting the computer down with sudo shutdown now. Am I on the right track? I could not find any proper information about this approach being "dangerous" but at the same time everybody seems to be inputting various arguments before now, never running it "raw".



My hardware is pretty generic and I would assume rather unimportant, really. I have a single Kingston SSD and the weirdest thing in my setup is probably me forcing the kernel to load amdgpu instead of the default radeon drivers.










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  • sudo shutdown now would not leave you with orphaned inodes, let alone an unbootable system.
    – Jos
    Jan 7 at 12:48










  • I knew one fellow who dutifully told the system to shutdown the right way, then (unwisely) immediately held the power button. You're not doing anything like that are you?
    – user535733
    Jan 7 at 13:08










  • Oh, no, nothing of the like. I just went with sudo shutdown now and washed my hands of the all thing, letting it die, which usually happened immediately. Now, just in case, I use the dedicated "power button" in the tray, choosing "Shutdown" (without invoking it through shell). But apparently it is not necessary?
    – Michal Tomaszuk
    2 days ago














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my first post here.



I am running 18.04.1 and I have recently gotten an error while booting - the screen remains black after POST and nothing happens. I went into recovery mode and found that my root partition doesn't get mounted due to orphaned inodes and the like - I cannot supply a log since I have rebooted twice since fixing that and I do not actually know how to access historical boot logs. I could fix it by running fsck.ext4 -p /dev/mapper/name-of-root-partition, and everything is fine and dandy again... However, I know this will probably happen again in the future, as I have had the exact same problem with Debian - it was in fact one of the reasons I switched to Ubuntu (the other being worse compatibility on Debian and some other small problems I didn't feel like fixing by hand, on Ubuntu it just werks).



Now fixing the problem is easy and rather pain-free, but I wonder what could be the reason, as it happens fairly frequently (I reckon twice a week) - I realized it might have something to do with me shutting the computer down with sudo shutdown now. Am I on the right track? I could not find any proper information about this approach being "dangerous" but at the same time everybody seems to be inputting various arguments before now, never running it "raw".



My hardware is pretty generic and I would assume rather unimportant, really. I have a single Kingston SSD and the weirdest thing in my setup is probably me forcing the kernel to load amdgpu instead of the default radeon drivers.










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my first post here.



I am running 18.04.1 and I have recently gotten an error while booting - the screen remains black after POST and nothing happens. I went into recovery mode and found that my root partition doesn't get mounted due to orphaned inodes and the like - I cannot supply a log since I have rebooted twice since fixing that and I do not actually know how to access historical boot logs. I could fix it by running fsck.ext4 -p /dev/mapper/name-of-root-partition, and everything is fine and dandy again... However, I know this will probably happen again in the future, as I have had the exact same problem with Debian - it was in fact one of the reasons I switched to Ubuntu (the other being worse compatibility on Debian and some other small problems I didn't feel like fixing by hand, on Ubuntu it just werks).



Now fixing the problem is easy and rather pain-free, but I wonder what could be the reason, as it happens fairly frequently (I reckon twice a week) - I realized it might have something to do with me shutting the computer down with sudo shutdown now. Am I on the right track? I could not find any proper information about this approach being "dangerous" but at the same time everybody seems to be inputting various arguments before now, never running it "raw".



My hardware is pretty generic and I would assume rather unimportant, really. I have a single Kingston SSD and the weirdest thing in my setup is probably me forcing the kernel to load amdgpu instead of the default radeon drivers.







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  • sudo shutdown now would not leave you with orphaned inodes, let alone an unbootable system.
    – Jos
    Jan 7 at 12:48










  • I knew one fellow who dutifully told the system to shutdown the right way, then (unwisely) immediately held the power button. You're not doing anything like that are you?
    – user535733
    Jan 7 at 13:08










  • Oh, no, nothing of the like. I just went with sudo shutdown now and washed my hands of the all thing, letting it die, which usually happened immediately. Now, just in case, I use the dedicated "power button" in the tray, choosing "Shutdown" (without invoking it through shell). But apparently it is not necessary?
    – Michal Tomaszuk
    2 days ago


















  • sudo shutdown now would not leave you with orphaned inodes, let alone an unbootable system.
    – Jos
    Jan 7 at 12:48










  • I knew one fellow who dutifully told the system to shutdown the right way, then (unwisely) immediately held the power button. You're not doing anything like that are you?
    – user535733
    Jan 7 at 13:08










  • Oh, no, nothing of the like. I just went with sudo shutdown now and washed my hands of the all thing, letting it die, which usually happened immediately. Now, just in case, I use the dedicated "power button" in the tray, choosing "Shutdown" (without invoking it through shell). But apparently it is not necessary?
    – Michal Tomaszuk
    2 days ago
















sudo shutdown now would not leave you with orphaned inodes, let alone an unbootable system.
– Jos
Jan 7 at 12:48




sudo shutdown now would not leave you with orphaned inodes, let alone an unbootable system.
– Jos
Jan 7 at 12:48












I knew one fellow who dutifully told the system to shutdown the right way, then (unwisely) immediately held the power button. You're not doing anything like that are you?
– user535733
Jan 7 at 13:08




I knew one fellow who dutifully told the system to shutdown the right way, then (unwisely) immediately held the power button. You're not doing anything like that are you?
– user535733
Jan 7 at 13:08












Oh, no, nothing of the like. I just went with sudo shutdown now and washed my hands of the all thing, letting it die, which usually happened immediately. Now, just in case, I use the dedicated "power button" in the tray, choosing "Shutdown" (without invoking it through shell). But apparently it is not necessary?
– Michal Tomaszuk
2 days ago




Oh, no, nothing of the like. I just went with sudo shutdown now and washed my hands of the all thing, letting it die, which usually happened immediately. Now, just in case, I use the dedicated "power button" in the tray, choosing "Shutdown" (without invoking it through shell). But apparently it is not necessary?
– Michal Tomaszuk
2 days ago










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