How do Americans with the cot–caught merger perceive /ɔ/ in foreign languages?
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, how would a speaker of American English with the cot–caught merger who had no special pronunciation training deal with these sounds, and to which of their native vowels categories would they be "mapped"? For example in German: doch vs Dach.
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, how would a speaker of American English with the cot–caught merger who had no special pronunciation training deal with these sounds, and to which of their native vowels categories would they be "mapped"? For example in German: doch vs Dach.
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What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
3 hours ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
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First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
3 hours ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
3 hours ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
2 hours ago
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, how would a speaker of American English with the cot–caught merger who had no special pronunciation training deal with these sounds, and to which of their native vowels categories would they be "mapped"? For example in German: doch vs Dach.
pronunciation north-american-english foreign-phrases
edited 1 hour ago
Chappo
3,04251527
asked 4 hours ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, how would a speaker of American English with the cot–caught merger who had no special pronunciation training deal with these sounds, and to which of their native vowels categories would they be "mapped"? For example in German: doch vs Dach.
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pronunciation north-american-english foreign-phrases
edited 1 hour ago
Chappo
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asked 4 hours ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
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edited 1 hour ago
Chappo
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Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
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edited 1 hour ago
Chappo
3,04251527
edited 1 hour ago
Chappo
3,04251527
edited 1 hour ago
Chappo
3,04251527
3,04251527
asked 4 hours ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
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asked 4 hours ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
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asked 4 hours ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
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What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
3 hours ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
2
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
3 hours ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
3 hours ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
2 hours ago
add a comment |
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
3 hours ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
2
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
3 hours ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
3 hours ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
2 hours ago
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
3 hours ago
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
3 hours ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
2
2
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
3 hours ago
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
3 hours ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
3 hours ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
3 hours ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
2 hours ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
3 hours ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
2
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
3 hours ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
3 hours ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
2 hours ago