Present perfect or simple past with “for the last twenty minutes”?





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My teacher give me a question




You know she (stand)______ looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




and my job is complete this sentence with any verb tense provided it makes sense.



My teacher said it must be present perfect:




You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




But I think the simple past is correct:




You know she stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




It seems to me "for the last twenty minutes" is a completed time period, it can't include the present moment. So we can't use the present perfect.



Can you explain to me which is correct?










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    You can definitely use present perfect. And if she is still looking at the picture, it's definitely the tense I would expect. (But if she's not still looking at the picture, both simple past and present perfect work fine.)
    – Peter Shor
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:09








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    (1) "You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is not right. (2) "You know she has been standing [and] looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is better. (3) "last 20 minutes" may or may not include the present moment. (4) your completion is also valid. (5) some teachers do not like students who disagree, so better to go along, atleast to get the grades.
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    Jun 1 '17 at 15:10










  • related : english.stackexchange.com/questions/311625/…
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    Jun 1 '17 at 15:15






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    “You know what? She’s been standing there looking at picture for twenty minutes now!”
    – tchrist
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:17










  • Peter's and Prem's answers are at variance. This is possibly a US - non-US difference regarding idiomaticity. As a Brit, I prefer 'has been standing looking ...' though as it's clunky, I'd echo tchrist. With the 'that' that's still in his word-processor.
    – Edwin Ashworth
    Jun 1 '17 at 16:06

















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My teacher give me a question




You know she (stand)______ looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




and my job is complete this sentence with any verb tense provided it makes sense.



My teacher said it must be present perfect:




You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




But I think the simple past is correct:




You know she stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




It seems to me "for the last twenty minutes" is a completed time period, it can't include the present moment. So we can't use the present perfect.



Can you explain to me which is correct?










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  • 5




    You can definitely use present perfect. And if she is still looking at the picture, it's definitely the tense I would expect. (But if she's not still looking at the picture, both simple past and present perfect work fine.)
    – Peter Shor
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:09








  • 1




    (1) "You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is not right. (2) "You know she has been standing [and] looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is better. (3) "last 20 minutes" may or may not include the present moment. (4) your completion is also valid. (5) some teachers do not like students who disagree, so better to go along, atleast to get the grades.
    – Prem
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:10










  • related : english.stackexchange.com/questions/311625/…
    – Prem
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:15






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    “You know what? She’s been standing there looking at picture for twenty minutes now!”
    – tchrist
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:17










  • Peter's and Prem's answers are at variance. This is possibly a US - non-US difference regarding idiomaticity. As a Brit, I prefer 'has been standing looking ...' though as it's clunky, I'd echo tchrist. With the 'that' that's still in his word-processor.
    – Edwin Ashworth
    Jun 1 '17 at 16:06













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My teacher give me a question




You know she (stand)______ looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




and my job is complete this sentence with any verb tense provided it makes sense.



My teacher said it must be present perfect:




You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




But I think the simple past is correct:




You know she stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




It seems to me "for the last twenty minutes" is a completed time period, it can't include the present moment. So we can't use the present perfect.



Can you explain to me which is correct?










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My teacher give me a question




You know she (stand)______ looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




and my job is complete this sentence with any verb tense provided it makes sense.



My teacher said it must be present perfect:




You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




But I think the simple past is correct:




You know she stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes.




It seems to me "for the last twenty minutes" is a completed time period, it can't include the present moment. So we can't use the present perfect.



Can you explain to me which is correct?







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  • 5




    You can definitely use present perfect. And if she is still looking at the picture, it's definitely the tense I would expect. (But if she's not still looking at the picture, both simple past and present perfect work fine.)
    – Peter Shor
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:09








  • 1




    (1) "You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is not right. (2) "You know she has been standing [and] looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is better. (3) "last 20 minutes" may or may not include the present moment. (4) your completion is also valid. (5) some teachers do not like students who disagree, so better to go along, atleast to get the grades.
    – Prem
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:10










  • related : english.stackexchange.com/questions/311625/…
    – Prem
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:15






  • 1




    “You know what? She’s been standing there looking at picture for twenty minutes now!”
    – tchrist
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:17










  • Peter's and Prem's answers are at variance. This is possibly a US - non-US difference regarding idiomaticity. As a Brit, I prefer 'has been standing looking ...' though as it's clunky, I'd echo tchrist. With the 'that' that's still in his word-processor.
    – Edwin Ashworth
    Jun 1 '17 at 16:06














  • 5




    You can definitely use present perfect. And if she is still looking at the picture, it's definitely the tense I would expect. (But if she's not still looking at the picture, both simple past and present perfect work fine.)
    – Peter Shor
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:09








  • 1




    (1) "You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is not right. (2) "You know she has been standing [and] looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is better. (3) "last 20 minutes" may or may not include the present moment. (4) your completion is also valid. (5) some teachers do not like students who disagree, so better to go along, atleast to get the grades.
    – Prem
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:10










  • related : english.stackexchange.com/questions/311625/…
    – Prem
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:15






  • 1




    “You know what? She’s been standing there looking at picture for twenty minutes now!”
    – tchrist
    Jun 1 '17 at 15:17










  • Peter's and Prem's answers are at variance. This is possibly a US - non-US difference regarding idiomaticity. As a Brit, I prefer 'has been standing looking ...' though as it's clunky, I'd echo tchrist. With the 'that' that's still in his word-processor.
    – Edwin Ashworth
    Jun 1 '17 at 16:06








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You can definitely use present perfect. And if she is still looking at the picture, it's definitely the tense I would expect. (But if she's not still looking at the picture, both simple past and present perfect work fine.)
– Peter Shor
Jun 1 '17 at 15:09






You can definitely use present perfect. And if she is still looking at the picture, it's definitely the tense I would expect. (But if she's not still looking at the picture, both simple past and present perfect work fine.)
– Peter Shor
Jun 1 '17 at 15:09






1




1




(1) "You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is not right. (2) "You know she has been standing [and] looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is better. (3) "last 20 minutes" may or may not include the present moment. (4) your completion is also valid. (5) some teachers do not like students who disagree, so better to go along, atleast to get the grades.
– Prem
Jun 1 '17 at 15:10




(1) "You know she has stood looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is not right. (2) "You know she has been standing [and] looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes." is better. (3) "last 20 minutes" may or may not include the present moment. (4) your completion is also valid. (5) some teachers do not like students who disagree, so better to go along, atleast to get the grades.
– Prem
Jun 1 '17 at 15:10












related : english.stackexchange.com/questions/311625/…
– Prem
Jun 1 '17 at 15:15




related : english.stackexchange.com/questions/311625/…
– Prem
Jun 1 '17 at 15:15




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“You know what? She’s been standing there looking at picture for twenty minutes now!”
– tchrist
Jun 1 '17 at 15:17




“You know what? She’s been standing there looking at picture for twenty minutes now!”
– tchrist
Jun 1 '17 at 15:17












Peter's and Prem's answers are at variance. This is possibly a US - non-US difference regarding idiomaticity. As a Brit, I prefer 'has been standing looking ...' though as it's clunky, I'd echo tchrist. With the 'that' that's still in his word-processor.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jun 1 '17 at 16:06




Peter's and Prem's answers are at variance. This is possibly a US - non-US difference regarding idiomaticity. As a Brit, I prefer 'has been standing looking ...' though as it's clunky, I'd echo tchrist. With the 'that' that's still in his word-processor.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jun 1 '17 at 16:06










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If I were you, I would use present perfect continuous.




You know she has been standing (and) looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes (until now and so on).







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    If I were you, I would use present perfect continuous.




    You know she has been standing (and) looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes (until now and so on).







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      If I were you, I would use present perfect continuous.




      You know she has been standing (and) looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes (until now and so on).







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        If I were you, I would use present perfect continuous.




        You know she has been standing (and) looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes (until now and so on).







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        If I were you, I would use present perfect continuous.




        You know she has been standing (and) looking at that picture for the last twenty minutes (until now and so on).








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