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The UTC is a measure for coordinating activities in multiple regions of the earth in timing. It means "Universal Time Coordinated". What does that mean grammatically? Can you unravel this message with more signal words?



I would say "Universally Coordinated Time" which means that the same time is used by many people - the time is universally coordinated.



The other statement means almost the same if not the same, but I don't know how to understand this grammar construction / word construction. Thanks.










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    I always assumed it was because they wanted it to have three letters (like GMT, EST, etc.) and just made up a third word to go along with "Universal Time"
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The UTC is a measure for coordinating activities in multiple regions of the earth in timing. It means "Universal Time Coordinated". What does that mean grammatically? Can you unravel this message with more signal words?



I would say "Universally Coordinated Time" which means that the same time is used by many people - the time is universally coordinated.



The other statement means almost the same if not the same, but I don't know how to understand this grammar construction / word construction. Thanks.










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    I always assumed it was because they wanted it to have three letters (like GMT, EST, etc.) and just made up a third word to go along with "Universal Time"
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The UTC is a measure for coordinating activities in multiple regions of the earth in timing. It means "Universal Time Coordinated". What does that mean grammatically? Can you unravel this message with more signal words?



I would say "Universally Coordinated Time" which means that the same time is used by many people - the time is universally coordinated.



The other statement means almost the same if not the same, but I don't know how to understand this grammar construction / word construction. Thanks.










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The UTC is a measure for coordinating activities in multiple regions of the earth in timing. It means "Universal Time Coordinated". What does that mean grammatically? Can you unravel this message with more signal words?



I would say "Universally Coordinated Time" which means that the same time is used by many people - the time is universally coordinated.



The other statement means almost the same if not the same, but I don't know how to understand this grammar construction / word construction. Thanks.







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    I always assumed it was because they wanted it to have three letters (like GMT, EST, etc.) and just made up a third word to go along with "Universal Time"
    – Richard
    Dec 19 at 16:26














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    I always assumed it was because they wanted it to have three letters (like GMT, EST, etc.) and just made up a third word to go along with "Universal Time"
    – Richard
    Dec 19 at 16:26








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I always assumed it was because they wanted it to have three letters (like GMT, EST, etc.) and just made up a third word to go along with "Universal Time"
– Richard
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I always assumed it was because they wanted it to have three letters (like GMT, EST, etc.) and just made up a third word to go along with "Universal Time"
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UTC does not stand for Universal Time Coordinated.



It stands for Coordinated Universal Time, at least in English.



From Wikipedia:




The official abbreviation for Coordinated Universal Time is UTC. This abbreviation arose from a desire by the International Telecommunication Union and the International Astronomical Union to use the same abbreviation in all languages. English speakers originally proposed CUT (for "coordinated universal time"), while French speakers proposed TUC (for "temps universel coordonné"). The compromise that emerged was UTC, which conforms to the pattern for the abbreviations of the variants of Universal Time (UT0, UT1, UT2, UT1R, etc.)







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    @Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:17






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    @Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:51






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    @Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 8:06








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    @Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
    – JMac
    Dec 20 at 16:09






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    @JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
    – yshavit
    Dec 20 at 18:24



















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It is one of the several variants in the group of "Universal Time" standards (irony of all ironies).



It's probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other, so a new standard that does was needed -- a "co-ordinated" standard.



Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought, a qualifier that is more in the nature of a subscript than a full-fledged adjunct.



Just read it with an implied comma:




Universal Time, Coordinated.




meta: The above is from the ELU point of view; restricted to the ELU purview.



Natl. Hurricane Ctr; NOAA "What is UTC or GMT Time?"




Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". (emphasis mine)







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    How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:35






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    According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
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UTC does not stand for Universal Time Coordinated.



It stands for Coordinated Universal Time, at least in English.



From Wikipedia:




The official abbreviation for Coordinated Universal Time is UTC. This abbreviation arose from a desire by the International Telecommunication Union and the International Astronomical Union to use the same abbreviation in all languages. English speakers originally proposed CUT (for "coordinated universal time"), while French speakers proposed TUC (for "temps universel coordonné"). The compromise that emerged was UTC, which conforms to the pattern for the abbreviations of the variants of Universal Time (UT0, UT1, UT2, UT1R, etc.)







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    @Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:17






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    @Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:51






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    @Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 8:06








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    @Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
    – JMac
    Dec 20 at 16:09






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    @JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
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    Dec 20 at 18:24
















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UTC does not stand for Universal Time Coordinated.



It stands for Coordinated Universal Time, at least in English.



From Wikipedia:




The official abbreviation for Coordinated Universal Time is UTC. This abbreviation arose from a desire by the International Telecommunication Union and the International Astronomical Union to use the same abbreviation in all languages. English speakers originally proposed CUT (for "coordinated universal time"), while French speakers proposed TUC (for "temps universel coordonné"). The compromise that emerged was UTC, which conforms to the pattern for the abbreviations of the variants of Universal Time (UT0, UT1, UT2, UT1R, etc.)







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    @Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:17






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    @Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:51






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    @Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 8:06








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    @Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
    – JMac
    Dec 20 at 16:09






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    @JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
    – yshavit
    Dec 20 at 18:24














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UTC does not stand for Universal Time Coordinated.



It stands for Coordinated Universal Time, at least in English.



From Wikipedia:




The official abbreviation for Coordinated Universal Time is UTC. This abbreviation arose from a desire by the International Telecommunication Union and the International Astronomical Union to use the same abbreviation in all languages. English speakers originally proposed CUT (for "coordinated universal time"), while French speakers proposed TUC (for "temps universel coordonné"). The compromise that emerged was UTC, which conforms to the pattern for the abbreviations of the variants of Universal Time (UT0, UT1, UT2, UT1R, etc.)







share|improve this answer














UTC does not stand for Universal Time Coordinated.



It stands for Coordinated Universal Time, at least in English.



From Wikipedia:




The official abbreviation for Coordinated Universal Time is UTC. This abbreviation arose from a desire by the International Telecommunication Union and the International Astronomical Union to use the same abbreviation in all languages. English speakers originally proposed CUT (for "coordinated universal time"), while French speakers proposed TUC (for "temps universel coordonné"). The compromise that emerged was UTC, which conforms to the pattern for the abbreviations of the variants of Universal Time (UT0, UT1, UT2, UT1R, etc.)








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    @Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:17






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    @Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:51






  • 11




    @Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 8:06








  • 11




    @Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
    – JMac
    Dec 20 at 16:09






  • 3




    @JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
    – yshavit
    Dec 20 at 18:24














  • 20




    @Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:17






  • 2




    @Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 7:51






  • 11




    @Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 20 at 8:06








  • 11




    @Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
    – JMac
    Dec 20 at 16:09






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    @JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
    – yshavit
    Dec 20 at 18:24








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@Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
– Eric Towers
Dec 20 at 7:17




@Kris : False. "UTC" is not an initialism; it is an abstract designator, much like any other proper noun.
– Eric Towers
Dec 20 at 7:17




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@Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
– Eric Towers
Dec 20 at 7:51




@Kris : NOAA does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The relevant agency in the USA is the United States Bureau of Standards, not NOAA, and that bureau does not specify the meaning of "UTC". The meaning of "UTC" is specified by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures.
– Eric Towers
Dec 20 at 7:51




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@Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
– Eric Towers
Dec 20 at 8:06






@Kris : Since Bureau International des Poids et Mesures positively identifies the meaning of "UTC", your logically fallacy is burden of proof. It is not the responsibility of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures to deny wrong claims about the meaning of "UTC".
– Eric Towers
Dec 20 at 8:06






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@Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
– JMac
Dec 20 at 16:09




@Kris Why would they say that when they already said it stands for Coordinated Universal Time? When you tell someone your name, do you also tell them all the names that are not yours just to be sure?
– JMac
Dec 20 at 16:09




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@JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
– yshavit
Dec 20 at 18:24




@JMac That would be a cool way to make it sounds like you're royalty with lots of titles! "Introducing yshavit, nth of his name, not of name Aaron, not of name Abraham, not of name Adam, not..."
– yshavit
Dec 20 at 18:24













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It is one of the several variants in the group of "Universal Time" standards (irony of all ironies).



It's probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other, so a new standard that does was needed -- a "co-ordinated" standard.



Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought, a qualifier that is more in the nature of a subscript than a full-fledged adjunct.



Just read it with an implied comma:




Universal Time, Coordinated.




meta: The above is from the ELU point of view; restricted to the ELU purview.



Natl. Hurricane Ctr; NOAA "What is UTC or GMT Time?"




Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". (emphasis mine)







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    How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:35






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    According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:45
















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It is one of the several variants in the group of "Universal Time" standards (irony of all ironies).



It's probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other, so a new standard that does was needed -- a "co-ordinated" standard.



Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought, a qualifier that is more in the nature of a subscript than a full-fledged adjunct.



Just read it with an implied comma:




Universal Time, Coordinated.




meta: The above is from the ELU point of view; restricted to the ELU purview.



Natl. Hurricane Ctr; NOAA "What is UTC or GMT Time?"




Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". (emphasis mine)







share|improve this answer



















  • 4




    How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:35






  • 9




    According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:45














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It is one of the several variants in the group of "Universal Time" standards (irony of all ironies).



It's probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other, so a new standard that does was needed -- a "co-ordinated" standard.



Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought, a qualifier that is more in the nature of a subscript than a full-fledged adjunct.



Just read it with an implied comma:




Universal Time, Coordinated.




meta: The above is from the ELU point of view; restricted to the ELU purview.



Natl. Hurricane Ctr; NOAA "What is UTC or GMT Time?"




Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". (emphasis mine)







share|improve this answer














It is one of the several variants in the group of "Universal Time" standards (irony of all ironies).



It's probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other, so a new standard that does was needed -- a "co-ordinated" standard.



Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought, a qualifier that is more in the nature of a subscript than a full-fledged adjunct.



Just read it with an implied comma:




Universal Time, Coordinated.




meta: The above is from the ELU point of view; restricted to the ELU purview.



Natl. Hurricane Ctr; NOAA "What is UTC or GMT Time?"




Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". (emphasis mine)








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    How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:35






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    According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:45














  • 4




    How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:35






  • 9




    According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
    – vlaz
    Dec 19 at 7:45








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How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
– vlaz
Dec 19 at 7:35




How is this is more correct than other sources? And how does the link back your claim that "probably that the other members of the group do not talk to each other" or "Now we can see that "Coordinated" is essentially a second thought" - I don't see anything remotely to that effect in the link.
– vlaz
Dec 19 at 7:35




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According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
– vlaz
Dec 19 at 7:45




According to the quote and the link, UTC is maintained by Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM), who are very consistent in UTC standing for Coordinated Universal Time. See, the annual reports for 2017 (it's the same with accross the last five years) the timescale service, about the establishment of UTS, etc
– vlaz
Dec 19 at 7:45










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