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Long-story, super-short, I have been lured to Ubuntu by it's excellent ZFS support and was going to use it to create a NAS. However I have realized all I really need is a supplemntary high capacity archive solution over a centralized storage one. Since I only have one workstation capable of processing the large video files I deal with and intend to keep a copy of the source files for the current project locally on that machine anyway, it seems like my use case is more DAS than NAS.



I bought (3)x6TB for a mirror in my original NAS plan, so I figure my DAS solution would be the same. My thought was to dual boot the workstation between Windows (which I work in) and Linux, which I would periodically use when new footage came in, to access the three dives, attached externally, in a 'dumb' JBOD enclosure.




  1. Dumb and cheap JBOD enclosures are really hard to find. Most DAS have hardware raid inside which I assume is where their prices come from. Am I missing something? Unlike NAS, where you can repurpose old machines rather than buy an off-the-shelf box, I believe it's impossible to do the same for a DAS given the nature of the USB controllers on motherboards.

  2. Would three separate 3.5" USB3 enclosures work? I'm nervous since much of what I have read suggests this would be unreliable.

  3. Space wise it's not really feasible to mount the hard drives internally in the workstation, so I considered using eSata which I thought just passed through the internal sata ports to external ones, however looking aound that doesn't seem to be the case?


I know it may be an unusual question but any help you guys might give would be really appreciated.










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  • It seems your question is really more generic/hardware related than a question about Ubuntu. I'm sure that there is a forum somewhere dedicated to the intricacies of making enclosures for hard drives...

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  • Yes, it does read that way but I should have been more specific. I'm interested in anyone's knowledge of Ubuntu's support for USB controllers and USB external devices and any experience with their stability over this kind of unusually prolonged use case. I also thought somebody might be able to provide some input when it comes particularly to the inner workings of ZFS which I know can be quite intensive regarding disk activity because of things like scrubbing etc.

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Long-story, super-short, I have been lured to Ubuntu by it's excellent ZFS support and was going to use it to create a NAS. However I have realized all I really need is a supplemntary high capacity archive solution over a centralized storage one. Since I only have one workstation capable of processing the large video files I deal with and intend to keep a copy of the source files for the current project locally on that machine anyway, it seems like my use case is more DAS than NAS.



I bought (3)x6TB for a mirror in my original NAS plan, so I figure my DAS solution would be the same. My thought was to dual boot the workstation between Windows (which I work in) and Linux, which I would periodically use when new footage came in, to access the three dives, attached externally, in a 'dumb' JBOD enclosure.




  1. Dumb and cheap JBOD enclosures are really hard to find. Most DAS have hardware raid inside which I assume is where their prices come from. Am I missing something? Unlike NAS, where you can repurpose old machines rather than buy an off-the-shelf box, I believe it's impossible to do the same for a DAS given the nature of the USB controllers on motherboards.

  2. Would three separate 3.5" USB3 enclosures work? I'm nervous since much of what I have read suggests this would be unreliable.

  3. Space wise it's not really feasible to mount the hard drives internally in the workstation, so I considered using eSata which I thought just passed through the internal sata ports to external ones, however looking aound that doesn't seem to be the case?


I know it may be an unusual question but any help you guys might give would be really appreciated.










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  • It seems your question is really more generic/hardware related than a question about Ubuntu. I'm sure that there is a forum somewhere dedicated to the intricacies of making enclosures for hard drives...

    – Charles Green
    yesterday











  • Yes, it does read that way but I should have been more specific. I'm interested in anyone's knowledge of Ubuntu's support for USB controllers and USB external devices and any experience with their stability over this kind of unusually prolonged use case. I also thought somebody might be able to provide some input when it comes particularly to the inner workings of ZFS which I know can be quite intensive regarding disk activity because of things like scrubbing etc.

    – John S.
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Long-story, super-short, I have been lured to Ubuntu by it's excellent ZFS support and was going to use it to create a NAS. However I have realized all I really need is a supplemntary high capacity archive solution over a centralized storage one. Since I only have one workstation capable of processing the large video files I deal with and intend to keep a copy of the source files for the current project locally on that machine anyway, it seems like my use case is more DAS than NAS.



I bought (3)x6TB for a mirror in my original NAS plan, so I figure my DAS solution would be the same. My thought was to dual boot the workstation between Windows (which I work in) and Linux, which I would periodically use when new footage came in, to access the three dives, attached externally, in a 'dumb' JBOD enclosure.




  1. Dumb and cheap JBOD enclosures are really hard to find. Most DAS have hardware raid inside which I assume is where their prices come from. Am I missing something? Unlike NAS, where you can repurpose old machines rather than buy an off-the-shelf box, I believe it's impossible to do the same for a DAS given the nature of the USB controllers on motherboards.

  2. Would three separate 3.5" USB3 enclosures work? I'm nervous since much of what I have read suggests this would be unreliable.

  3. Space wise it's not really feasible to mount the hard drives internally in the workstation, so I considered using eSata which I thought just passed through the internal sata ports to external ones, however looking aound that doesn't seem to be the case?


I know it may be an unusual question but any help you guys might give would be really appreciated.










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Long-story, super-short, I have been lured to Ubuntu by it's excellent ZFS support and was going to use it to create a NAS. However I have realized all I really need is a supplemntary high capacity archive solution over a centralized storage one. Since I only have one workstation capable of processing the large video files I deal with and intend to keep a copy of the source files for the current project locally on that machine anyway, it seems like my use case is more DAS than NAS.



I bought (3)x6TB for a mirror in my original NAS plan, so I figure my DAS solution would be the same. My thought was to dual boot the workstation between Windows (which I work in) and Linux, which I would periodically use when new footage came in, to access the three dives, attached externally, in a 'dumb' JBOD enclosure.




  1. Dumb and cheap JBOD enclosures are really hard to find. Most DAS have hardware raid inside which I assume is where their prices come from. Am I missing something? Unlike NAS, where you can repurpose old machines rather than buy an off-the-shelf box, I believe it's impossible to do the same for a DAS given the nature of the USB controllers on motherboards.

  2. Would three separate 3.5" USB3 enclosures work? I'm nervous since much of what I have read suggests this would be unreliable.

  3. Space wise it's not really feasible to mount the hard drives internally in the workstation, so I considered using eSata which I thought just passed through the internal sata ports to external ones, however looking aound that doesn't seem to be the case?


I know it may be an unusual question but any help you guys might give would be really appreciated.







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  • It seems your question is really more generic/hardware related than a question about Ubuntu. I'm sure that there is a forum somewhere dedicated to the intricacies of making enclosures for hard drives...

    – Charles Green
    yesterday











  • Yes, it does read that way but I should have been more specific. I'm interested in anyone's knowledge of Ubuntu's support for USB controllers and USB external devices and any experience with their stability over this kind of unusually prolonged use case. I also thought somebody might be able to provide some input when it comes particularly to the inner workings of ZFS which I know can be quite intensive regarding disk activity because of things like scrubbing etc.

    – John S.
    yesterday



















  • It seems your question is really more generic/hardware related than a question about Ubuntu. I'm sure that there is a forum somewhere dedicated to the intricacies of making enclosures for hard drives...

    – Charles Green
    yesterday











  • Yes, it does read that way but I should have been more specific. I'm interested in anyone's knowledge of Ubuntu's support for USB controllers and USB external devices and any experience with their stability over this kind of unusually prolonged use case. I also thought somebody might be able to provide some input when it comes particularly to the inner workings of ZFS which I know can be quite intensive regarding disk activity because of things like scrubbing etc.

    – John S.
    yesterday

















It seems your question is really more generic/hardware related than a question about Ubuntu. I'm sure that there is a forum somewhere dedicated to the intricacies of making enclosures for hard drives...

– Charles Green
yesterday





It seems your question is really more generic/hardware related than a question about Ubuntu. I'm sure that there is a forum somewhere dedicated to the intricacies of making enclosures for hard drives...

– Charles Green
yesterday













Yes, it does read that way but I should have been more specific. I'm interested in anyone's knowledge of Ubuntu's support for USB controllers and USB external devices and any experience with their stability over this kind of unusually prolonged use case. I also thought somebody might be able to provide some input when it comes particularly to the inner workings of ZFS which I know can be quite intensive regarding disk activity because of things like scrubbing etc.

– John S.
yesterday





Yes, it does read that way but I should have been more specific. I'm interested in anyone's knowledge of Ubuntu's support for USB controllers and USB external devices and any experience with their stability over this kind of unusually prolonged use case. I also thought somebody might be able to provide some input when it comes particularly to the inner workings of ZFS which I know can be quite intensive regarding disk activity because of things like scrubbing etc.

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