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Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



“Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






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    To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

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It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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    Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



    That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



    You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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      • Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
        6 hours ago


















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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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      • Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
        6 hours ago
















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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.







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      • Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
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      • Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
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      Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

      – Thunderforge
      6 hours ago







      Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

      – Thunderforge
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      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

        – Benjamin Raabe
        yesterday
















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      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






      share|improve this answer



















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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

        – Benjamin Raabe
        yesterday














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      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






      share|improve this answer













      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.







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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

        – Benjamin Raabe
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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

        – Benjamin Raabe
        yesterday








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      To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

      – Benjamin Raabe
      yesterday





      To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

      – Benjamin Raabe
      yesterday











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      It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



      There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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        It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



        There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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          It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



          There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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          It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



          There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.







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              Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



              That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



              You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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                Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



                That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



                You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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                  Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



                  That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



                  You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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                  Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



                  That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



                  You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE







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