How do Cot-Cought merged Americans perceive ɔ in foreign languages (Open-mid back rounded vowel)
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:
Doch vs. Dach
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:
Doch vs. Dach
pronunciation north-american-english foreign-phrases
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
1 hour ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
1 hour ago
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First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
1 hour ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
48 mins ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
18 mins ago
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Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:
Doch vs. Dach
pronunciation north-american-english foreign-phrases
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:
Doch vs. Dach
pronunciation north-american-english foreign-phrases
pronunciation north-american-english foreign-phrases
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
asked 1 hour ago
Yordan GrigorovYordan Grigorov
255
255
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
1 hour ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
1 hour ago
1
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
1 hour ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
48 mins ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
18 mins ago
add a comment |
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
1 hour ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
1 hour ago
1
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
1 hour ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
48 mins ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
18 mins ago
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
1 hour ago
What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
1 hour ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
1 hour ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
1 hour ago
1
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First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
1 hour ago
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
1 hour ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
48 mins ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
48 mins ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
18 mins ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
18 mins ago
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What are "special pronunciation skills"?
– Juhasz
1 hour ago
Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.
– Laurel
1 hour ago
1
First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.
– Peter Shor
1 hour ago
Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.
– John Lawler
48 mins ago
Lamentably, those people who have no special pronunciation skills are probably not contributing to this site: it is up to us to listen.
– Cascabel
18 mins ago