What is the chord containing C, D, F#?











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Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).



Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.



Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.



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  • I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
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Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).



Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.



Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.



Does it has a name?






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  • I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
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Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).



Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.



Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.



Does it has a name?






theory chord-theory







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Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).



Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.



Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.



Does it has a name?






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  • I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
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  • I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.






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    It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
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    Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.






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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.






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    It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
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    Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.






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    It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
    – Tim
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    Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.






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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.







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  • Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
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    It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
    – Tim
    2 days ago






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    Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
    – Rakanishu
    2 days ago




















  • Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
    – Rakanishu
    2 days ago








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    It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
    – Tim
    2 days ago






  • 1




    Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
    – Rakanishu
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Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
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Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
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It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
2 days ago




It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
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Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
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Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.






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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.






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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.






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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.







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