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Suppose I wanted to play a double stop on the violin. The double stop played the G string and the A string simultaneously. Is this possible? Can you play a double stop on two non-adjacent strings?










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    Why this was downvoted? It seems an entirely reasonable and practical question.

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Suppose I wanted to play a double stop on the violin. The double stop played the G string and the A string simultaneously. Is this possible? Can you play a double stop on two non-adjacent strings?










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    Why this was downvoted? It seems an entirely reasonable and practical question.

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    Probably by someone who thought he was clever enough to know that it was impossible. Wrong! And not good enough to explain.

    – Tim
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Suppose I wanted to play a double stop on the violin. The double stop played the G string and the A string simultaneously. Is this possible? Can you play a double stop on two non-adjacent strings?










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Suppose I wanted to play a double stop on the violin. The double stop played the G string and the A string simultaneously. Is this possible? Can you play a double stop on two non-adjacent strings?







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    Why this was downvoted? It seems an entirely reasonable and practical question.

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    Probably by someone who thought he was clever enough to know that it was impossible. Wrong! And not good enough to explain.

    – Tim
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    Why this was downvoted? It seems an entirely reasonable and practical question.

    – replete
    14 hours ago






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    Probably by someone who thought he was clever enough to know that it was impossible. Wrong! And not good enough to explain.

    – Tim
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Why this was downvoted? It seems an entirely reasonable and practical question.

– replete
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Why this was downvoted? It seems an entirely reasonable and practical question.

– replete
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Probably by someone who thought he was clever enough to know that it was impossible. Wrong! And not good enough to explain.

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Probably by someone who thought he was clever enough to know that it was impossible. Wrong! And not good enough to explain.

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Just to add to the other answers, there's this unusual technique where you loosen the hair of the bow and play with the stick of the bow under the violin, but the hair wrapping over it. This allows you to play three or four strings simultaneously.



To play only two non-adjacent strings, I guess you'd need to somehow mute the string(s) in between. I never played violin so I don't know how feasible that would be.






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    As Jomiddnz points out, there's pizzicato. You could also bow one string and pluck another at the same time.



    But if you want both notes played with the bow, and don't want the bow to catch the strings in between, the only way is by playing on the top and bottom strings with the bow under the strings. Here's an example (OK, the only example I've found): the last few bars of Flausino Vale's variations on Franz Lehár's Paganini. (Note also the combination of an arco note and pizzicato open strings.)



    Flausino Vale's variations on Lehár's *Paganini*, b.112ff



    If you don't want to use that extraordinary technique, then, no.






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    • Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

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    • No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

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    • Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

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    No. It is physically impossible unless you play it pizzicato.






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      Just to be pedantic, you could pretty easily bow the open G and A strings together by holding the D string depressed just above the bridge.






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        Just to add to the other answers, there's this unusual technique where you loosen the hair of the bow and play with the stick of the bow under the violin, but the hair wrapping over it. This allows you to play three or four strings simultaneously.



        To play only two non-adjacent strings, I guess you'd need to somehow mute the string(s) in between. I never played violin so I don't know how feasible that would be.






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          Just to add to the other answers, there's this unusual technique where you loosen the hair of the bow and play with the stick of the bow under the violin, but the hair wrapping over it. This allows you to play three or four strings simultaneously.



          To play only two non-adjacent strings, I guess you'd need to somehow mute the string(s) in between. I never played violin so I don't know how feasible that would be.






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            Just to add to the other answers, there's this unusual technique where you loosen the hair of the bow and play with the stick of the bow under the violin, but the hair wrapping over it. This allows you to play three or four strings simultaneously.



            To play only two non-adjacent strings, I guess you'd need to somehow mute the string(s) in between. I never played violin so I don't know how feasible that would be.






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            Just to add to the other answers, there's this unusual technique where you loosen the hair of the bow and play with the stick of the bow under the violin, but the hair wrapping over it. This allows you to play three or four strings simultaneously.



            To play only two non-adjacent strings, I guess you'd need to somehow mute the string(s) in between. I never played violin so I don't know how feasible that would be.







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                As Jomiddnz points out, there's pizzicato. You could also bow one string and pluck another at the same time.



                But if you want both notes played with the bow, and don't want the bow to catch the strings in between, the only way is by playing on the top and bottom strings with the bow under the strings. Here's an example (OK, the only example I've found): the last few bars of Flausino Vale's variations on Franz Lehár's Paganini. (Note also the combination of an arco note and pizzicato open strings.)



                Flausino Vale's variations on Lehár's *Paganini*, b.112ff



                If you don't want to use that extraordinary technique, then, no.






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                • Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

                  – Tim
                  14 hours ago











                • No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

                  – Rosie F
                  14 hours ago











                • Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

                  – Creynders
                  14 hours ago
















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                As Jomiddnz points out, there's pizzicato. You could also bow one string and pluck another at the same time.



                But if you want both notes played with the bow, and don't want the bow to catch the strings in between, the only way is by playing on the top and bottom strings with the bow under the strings. Here's an example (OK, the only example I've found): the last few bars of Flausino Vale's variations on Franz Lehár's Paganini. (Note also the combination of an arco note and pizzicato open strings.)



                Flausino Vale's variations on Lehár's *Paganini*, b.112ff



                If you don't want to use that extraordinary technique, then, no.






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                • Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

                  – Tim
                  14 hours ago











                • No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

                  – Rosie F
                  14 hours ago











                • Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

                  – Creynders
                  14 hours ago














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                As Jomiddnz points out, there's pizzicato. You could also bow one string and pluck another at the same time.



                But if you want both notes played with the bow, and don't want the bow to catch the strings in between, the only way is by playing on the top and bottom strings with the bow under the strings. Here's an example (OK, the only example I've found): the last few bars of Flausino Vale's variations on Franz Lehár's Paganini. (Note also the combination of an arco note and pizzicato open strings.)



                Flausino Vale's variations on Lehár's *Paganini*, b.112ff



                If you don't want to use that extraordinary technique, then, no.






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                As Jomiddnz points out, there's pizzicato. You could also bow one string and pluck another at the same time.



                But if you want both notes played with the bow, and don't want the bow to catch the strings in between, the only way is by playing on the top and bottom strings with the bow under the strings. Here's an example (OK, the only example I've found): the last few bars of Flausino Vale's variations on Franz Lehár's Paganini. (Note also the combination of an arco note and pizzicato open strings.)



                Flausino Vale's variations on Lehár's *Paganini*, b.112ff



                If you don't want to use that extraordinary technique, then, no.







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                • Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

                  – Tim
                  14 hours ago











                • No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

                  – Rosie F
                  14 hours ago











                • Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

                  – Creynders
                  14 hours ago



















                • Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

                  – Tim
                  14 hours ago











                • No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

                  – Rosie F
                  14 hours ago











                • Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

                  – Creynders
                  14 hours ago

















                Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

                – Tim
                14 hours ago





                Are there several bars of rest notated while the player changes bow positions..?

                – Tim
                14 hours ago













                No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

                – Rosie F
                14 hours ago





                No, only that double-caesura sign in b.112. The piece is for solo violin so the player is at liberty to take their time over this awkward change.

                – Rosie F
                14 hours ago













                Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

                – Creynders
                14 hours ago





                Haha, Flausino Vale was definitely a show-off! :)

                – Creynders
                14 hours ago











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                No. It is physically impossible unless you play it pizzicato.






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                    No. It is physically impossible unless you play it pizzicato.






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                        Just to be pedantic, you could pretty easily bow the open G and A strings together by holding the D string depressed just above the bridge.






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                          Just to be pedantic, you could pretty easily bow the open G and A strings together by holding the D string depressed just above the bridge.






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                            Just to be pedantic, you could pretty easily bow the open G and A strings together by holding the D string depressed just above the bridge.






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                            Just to be pedantic, you could pretty easily bow the open G and A strings together by holding the D string depressed just above the bridge.







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