I need help analysing weird chord progression
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Here is the progression, bar-by-bar (newline after each 4 bar phrase):
Verse:
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Em9
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Fmaj7
Chorus:
Abmaj7 | Abmaj7 | Abm7 | Abm6
Ebmaj7/G | Ebmaj7 | F7 | F7
Fm7 | Fm7 | Fm7b5 | Bo7 Bb7
The chorus is specifically what I'm looking at. My best guess, as somebody still learning harmonic analysis, is the key center is Eb? Looking at the Bb7 at the end of the chorus. I honestly am pretty lost-- I know there's lots of odd modal interchange and stuff.
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Here is the progression, bar-by-bar (newline after each 4 bar phrase):
Verse:
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Em9
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Fmaj7
Chorus:
Abmaj7 | Abmaj7 | Abm7 | Abm6
Ebmaj7/G | Ebmaj7 | F7 | F7
Fm7 | Fm7 | Fm7b5 | Bo7 Bb7
The chorus is specifically what I'm looking at. My best guess, as somebody still learning harmonic analysis, is the key center is Eb? Looking at the Bb7 at the end of the chorus. I honestly am pretty lost-- I know there's lots of odd modal interchange and stuff.
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Here is the progression, bar-by-bar (newline after each 4 bar phrase):
Verse:
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Em9
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Fmaj7
Chorus:
Abmaj7 | Abmaj7 | Abm7 | Abm6
Ebmaj7/G | Ebmaj7 | F7 | F7
Fm7 | Fm7 | Fm7b5 | Bo7 Bb7
The chorus is specifically what I'm looking at. My best guess, as somebody still learning harmonic analysis, is the key center is Eb? Looking at the Bb7 at the end of the chorus. I honestly am pretty lost-- I know there's lots of odd modal interchange and stuff.
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Here is the progression, bar-by-bar (newline after each 4 bar phrase):
Verse:
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Em9
D | Bm7 | Gmaj7 | Fmaj7
Chorus:
Abmaj7 | Abmaj7 | Abm7 | Abm6
Ebmaj7/G | Ebmaj7 | F7 | F7
Fm7 | Fm7 | Fm7b5 | Bo7 Bb7
The chorus is specifically what I'm looking at. My best guess, as somebody still learning harmonic analysis, is the key center is Eb? Looking at the Bb7 at the end of the chorus. I honestly am pretty lost-- I know there's lots of odd modal interchange and stuff.
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Yes, the chorus is in Eb, and it starts on the IV chord:
Chorus
IV7 | IV7 | iv7 | iv***
I6/5 | I7 | V/V | V/V
ii7 | ii7 | iiø7 | viio4/3 ** V7
**Here the Bo7 is operating as an approach from above to the Bb7, as well as arguably adding a tinge of diminished to the Bb7 sound itself (could be construed as a Bb7b9, which actually has all the notes of a Bo7 chord built-in). The reason it is notated as a chord built on degree vii (instead of #V, as B is the #5th note of Eb) is because the notes in Bo7 are also in Do7: B D F Ab -> D F Ab B. Do7 is the fully-diminished leading tone chord in Eb, so I just took it from there and indicated it was in inversion (the 4/3), which gives the correct "layout" of the chord to make Bo7.
*** The Abm6 could be construed as an inversion of F-7b5 (iiø7) for analysis purposes but I'm leaving it as a minor iv chord for simplicity/practicality.
And for the verse (D major):
I | vi7 | IV | ii9
I | vi7 | IV7 | bIII7
The Fmaj7 (bIII7) chord is indeed a modal mixture chord (arguably borrowed from D minor).
answered 2 hours ago
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+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
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Yes, the chorus is in Eb, and it starts on the IV chord:
Chorus
IV7 | IV7 | iv7 | iv***
I6/5 | I7 | V/V | V/V
ii7 | ii7 | iiø7 | viio4/3 ** V7
**Here the Bo7 is operating as an approach from above to the Bb7, as well as arguably adding a tinge of diminished to the Bb7 sound itself (could be construed as a Bb7b9, which actually has all the notes of a Bo7 chord built-in). The reason it is notated as a chord built on degree vii (instead of #V, as B is the #5th note of Eb) is because the notes in Bo7 are also in Do7: B D F Ab -> D F Ab B. Do7 is the fully-diminished leading tone chord in Eb, so I just took it from there and indicated it was in inversion (the 4/3), which gives the correct "layout" of the chord to make Bo7.
*** The Abm6 could be construed as an inversion of F-7b5 (iiø7) for analysis purposes but I'm leaving it as a minor iv chord for simplicity/practicality.
And for the verse (D major):
I | vi7 | IV | ii9
I | vi7 | IV7 | bIII7
The Fmaj7 (bIII7) chord is indeed a modal mixture chord (arguably borrowed from D minor).
answered 2 hours ago
LSM07
45817
+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
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Yes, the chorus is in Eb, and it starts on the IV chord:
Chorus
IV7 | IV7 | iv7 | iv***
I6/5 | I7 | V/V | V/V
ii7 | ii7 | iiø7 | viio4/3 ** V7
**Here the Bo7 is operating as an approach from above to the Bb7, as well as arguably adding a tinge of diminished to the Bb7 sound itself (could be construed as a Bb7b9, which actually has all the notes of a Bo7 chord built-in). The reason it is notated as a chord built on degree vii (instead of #V, as B is the #5th note of Eb) is because the notes in Bo7 are also in Do7: B D F Ab -> D F Ab B. Do7 is the fully-diminished leading tone chord in Eb, so I just took it from there and indicated it was in inversion (the 4/3), which gives the correct "layout" of the chord to make Bo7.
*** The Abm6 could be construed as an inversion of F-7b5 (iiø7) for analysis purposes but I'm leaving it as a minor iv chord for simplicity/practicality.
And for the verse (D major):
I | vi7 | IV | ii9
I | vi7 | IV7 | bIII7
The Fmaj7 (bIII7) chord is indeed a modal mixture chord (arguably borrowed from D minor).
answered 2 hours ago
LSM07
45817
+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
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Yes, the chorus is in Eb, and it starts on the IV chord:
Chorus
IV7 | IV7 | iv7 | iv***
I6/5 | I7 | V/V | V/V
ii7 | ii7 | iiø7 | viio4/3 ** V7
**Here the Bo7 is operating as an approach from above to the Bb7, as well as arguably adding a tinge of diminished to the Bb7 sound itself (could be construed as a Bb7b9, which actually has all the notes of a Bo7 chord built-in). The reason it is notated as a chord built on degree vii (instead of #V, as B is the #5th note of Eb) is because the notes in Bo7 are also in Do7: B D F Ab -> D F Ab B. Do7 is the fully-diminished leading tone chord in Eb, so I just took it from there and indicated it was in inversion (the 4/3), which gives the correct "layout" of the chord to make Bo7.
*** The Abm6 could be construed as an inversion of F-7b5 (iiø7) for analysis purposes but I'm leaving it as a minor iv chord for simplicity/practicality.
And for the verse (D major):
I | vi7 | IV | ii9
I | vi7 | IV7 | bIII7
The Fmaj7 (bIII7) chord is indeed a modal mixture chord (arguably borrowed from D minor).
answered 2 hours ago
LSM07
45817
Yes, the chorus is in Eb, and it starts on the IV chord:
Chorus
IV7 | IV7 | iv7 | iv***
I6/5 | I7 | V/V | V/V
ii7 | ii7 | iiø7 | viio4/3 ** V7
**Here the Bo7 is operating as an approach from above to the Bb7, as well as arguably adding a tinge of diminished to the Bb7 sound itself (could be construed as a Bb7b9, which actually has all the notes of a Bo7 chord built-in). The reason it is notated as a chord built on degree vii (instead of #V, as B is the #5th note of Eb) is because the notes in Bo7 are also in Do7: B D F Ab -> D F Ab B. Do7 is the fully-diminished leading tone chord in Eb, so I just took it from there and indicated it was in inversion (the 4/3), which gives the correct "layout" of the chord to make Bo7.
*** The Abm6 could be construed as an inversion of F-7b5 (iiø7) for analysis purposes but I'm leaving it as a minor iv chord for simplicity/practicality.
And for the verse (D major):
I | vi7 | IV | ii9
I | vi7 | IV7 | bIII7
The Fmaj7 (bIII7) chord is indeed a modal mixture chord (arguably borrowed from D minor).
answered 2 hours ago
LSM07
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answered 2 hours ago
LSM07
45817
answered 2 hours ago
LSM07
45817
answered 2 hours ago
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45817
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+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
add a comment |
+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
+1, great answer!! I wondered about that Fmaj7 chord too. Do you think parallel movement could be a possible explanation (moving down a whole step)? It might be helpful to know what the melody does there.
– jdjazz
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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