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How come people use Hilbert spaces without citing Hilbert?



How do researchers write papers using relativity theory without citing Einstein?



I've heard of people not needing to cite Newton for his invention of calculus - is this a good analogy for why we don't cite Einstein or Hilbert?










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    You don't have to cite the original sources for things that have been part of general knowledge for decades. If you do want to cite something for them, you cite whatever is more readable (which is usually textbooks these days).

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How come people use Hilbert spaces without citing Hilbert?



How do researchers write papers using relativity theory without citing Einstein?



I've heard of people not needing to cite Newton for his invention of calculus - is this a good analogy for why we don't cite Einstein or Hilbert?










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    You don't have to cite the original sources for things that have been part of general knowledge for decades. If you do want to cite something for them, you cite whatever is more readable (which is usually textbooks these days).

    – darij grinberg
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How come people use Hilbert spaces without citing Hilbert?



How do researchers write papers using relativity theory without citing Einstein?



I've heard of people not needing to cite Newton for his invention of calculus - is this a good analogy for why we don't cite Einstein or Hilbert?










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How come people use Hilbert spaces without citing Hilbert?



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I've heard of people not needing to cite Newton for his invention of calculus - is this a good analogy for why we don't cite Einstein or Hilbert?







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    You don't have to cite the original sources for things that have been part of general knowledge for decades. If you do want to cite something for them, you cite whatever is more readable (which is usually textbooks these days).

    – darij grinberg
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    You don't have to cite the original sources for things that have been part of general knowledge for decades. If you do want to cite something for them, you cite whatever is more readable (which is usually textbooks these days).

    – darij grinberg
    2 hours ago








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You don't have to cite the original sources for things that have been part of general knowledge for decades. If you do want to cite something for them, you cite whatever is more readable (which is usually textbooks these days).

– darij grinberg
2 hours ago





You don't have to cite the original sources for things that have been part of general knowledge for decades. If you do want to cite something for them, you cite whatever is more readable (which is usually textbooks these days).

– darij grinberg
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Something I have found very useful in thinking about these boundaries is a categorization of "levels of fact" presented in Laboratory Life by Latour and Woolgar.



By observing and categorizing assertions found in scientific writing, they identified five levels of acceptance of assertions in practice, which were approximately, from least to most accepted:




  • Assertion is not accepted and must be argued with novel data.

  • Assertion can be argued through citation, but may still be controversial.

  • Assertion is generally accepted, but should be cited.

  • Assertion is so broadly accepted that citation is no longer necessary.

  • Assertion is common knowledge that no longer even needs to be stated.


Views on the level of particular assertions obviously will vary strongly over time and between communities, but I find the general principle tends to hold.



Under this view, it can be seen that things like Hilbert Spaces and the theory of relativity have generally moved at least to the fourth level, where failure to cite is both appropriate and may even be understood as a level of respect beyond citation.






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Something I have found very useful in thinking about these boundaries is a categorization of "levels of fact" presented in Laboratory Life by Latour and Woolgar.



By observing and categorizing assertions found in scientific writing, they identified five levels of acceptance of assertions in practice, which were approximately, from least to most accepted:




  • Assertion is not accepted and must be argued with novel data.

  • Assertion can be argued through citation, but may still be controversial.

  • Assertion is generally accepted, but should be cited.

  • Assertion is so broadly accepted that citation is no longer necessary.

  • Assertion is common knowledge that no longer even needs to be stated.


Views on the level of particular assertions obviously will vary strongly over time and between communities, but I find the general principle tends to hold.



Under this view, it can be seen that things like Hilbert Spaces and the theory of relativity have generally moved at least to the fourth level, where failure to cite is both appropriate and may even be understood as a level of respect beyond citation.






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Something I have found very useful in thinking about these boundaries is a categorization of "levels of fact" presented in Laboratory Life by Latour and Woolgar.



By observing and categorizing assertions found in scientific writing, they identified five levels of acceptance of assertions in practice, which were approximately, from least to most accepted:




  • Assertion is not accepted and must be argued with novel data.

  • Assertion can be argued through citation, but may still be controversial.

  • Assertion is generally accepted, but should be cited.

  • Assertion is so broadly accepted that citation is no longer necessary.

  • Assertion is common knowledge that no longer even needs to be stated.


Views on the level of particular assertions obviously will vary strongly over time and between communities, but I find the general principle tends to hold.



Under this view, it can be seen that things like Hilbert Spaces and the theory of relativity have generally moved at least to the fourth level, where failure to cite is both appropriate and may even be understood as a level of respect beyond citation.






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  • Have to say that I like this - one for the answer ie content and two for the quality of the answer. Plus 1...

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Something I have found very useful in thinking about these boundaries is a categorization of "levels of fact" presented in Laboratory Life by Latour and Woolgar.



By observing and categorizing assertions found in scientific writing, they identified five levels of acceptance of assertions in practice, which were approximately, from least to most accepted:




  • Assertion is not accepted and must be argued with novel data.

  • Assertion can be argued through citation, but may still be controversial.

  • Assertion is generally accepted, but should be cited.

  • Assertion is so broadly accepted that citation is no longer necessary.

  • Assertion is common knowledge that no longer even needs to be stated.


Views on the level of particular assertions obviously will vary strongly over time and between communities, but I find the general principle tends to hold.



Under this view, it can be seen that things like Hilbert Spaces and the theory of relativity have generally moved at least to the fourth level, where failure to cite is both appropriate and may even be understood as a level of respect beyond citation.






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Something I have found very useful in thinking about these boundaries is a categorization of "levels of fact" presented in Laboratory Life by Latour and Woolgar.



By observing and categorizing assertions found in scientific writing, they identified five levels of acceptance of assertions in practice, which were approximately, from least to most accepted:




  • Assertion is not accepted and must be argued with novel data.

  • Assertion can be argued through citation, but may still be controversial.

  • Assertion is generally accepted, but should be cited.

  • Assertion is so broadly accepted that citation is no longer necessary.

  • Assertion is common knowledge that no longer even needs to be stated.


Views on the level of particular assertions obviously will vary strongly over time and between communities, but I find the general principle tends to hold.



Under this view, it can be seen that things like Hilbert Spaces and the theory of relativity have generally moved at least to the fourth level, where failure to cite is both appropriate and may even be understood as a level of respect beyond citation.







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