Approximating $frac {log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}$ to a rational number












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I'm making a phone game, and I need to approximate $frac {log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}$ to a rational number $p/q$.

I wish $p$ and $q$ small enough. For example, I don't want $p$, $qapprox 10^7$; it's way too much for my code.



In the game, there's two way to upgrade ability. Type A gives an additional $50%$ increase at once. and type B gives $25%$.

What I want to know is how many times of upgrade $(x,y)$ provides the same additional increase. So what I've done is solve $(3/2)^x = (5/4)^y$ respect to $frac xy$.



Can you provide me a way to construct sequence $p_n$, $q_n$ which approximate the real number?

Thank you in advance.










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    I don't understand your game, but your number approximately $0.55034$ and thus $tfrac{55034}{100000}$ or $tfrac{5503}{10000}$. What's wrong with that?
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    The continued fraction expansion of your irrational number will produce the best rational approximation subject to a limit on size of the denominator.
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    You can take truncations of the continued fraction of that number. The first few of its values start like this.
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    try 82/149 ........
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    Cool, a practical application of continued fractions. :)
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I'm making a phone game, and I need to approximate $frac {log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}$ to a rational number $p/q$.

I wish $p$ and $q$ small enough. For example, I don't want $p$, $qapprox 10^7$; it's way too much for my code.



In the game, there's two way to upgrade ability. Type A gives an additional $50%$ increase at once. and type B gives $25%$.

What I want to know is how many times of upgrade $(x,y)$ provides the same additional increase. So what I've done is solve $(3/2)^x = (5/4)^y$ respect to $frac xy$.



Can you provide me a way to construct sequence $p_n$, $q_n$ which approximate the real number?

Thank you in advance.










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    I don't understand your game, but your number approximately $0.55034$ and thus $tfrac{55034}{100000}$ or $tfrac{5503}{10000}$. What's wrong with that?
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    – amsmath
    yesterday






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    The continued fraction expansion of your irrational number will produce the best rational approximation subject to a limit on size of the denominator.
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    – hardmath
    yesterday






  • 1




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    You can take truncations of the continued fraction of that number. The first few of its values start like this.
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    – user647486
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    try 82/149 ........
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    – Will Jagy
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    Cool, a practical application of continued fractions. :)
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I'm making a phone game, and I need to approximate $frac {log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}$ to a rational number $p/q$.

I wish $p$ and $q$ small enough. For example, I don't want $p$, $qapprox 10^7$; it's way too much for my code.



In the game, there's two way to upgrade ability. Type A gives an additional $50%$ increase at once. and type B gives $25%$.

What I want to know is how many times of upgrade $(x,y)$ provides the same additional increase. So what I've done is solve $(3/2)^x = (5/4)^y$ respect to $frac xy$.



Can you provide me a way to construct sequence $p_n$, $q_n$ which approximate the real number?

Thank you in advance.










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I'm making a phone game, and I need to approximate $frac {log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}$ to a rational number $p/q$.

I wish $p$ and $q$ small enough. For example, I don't want $p$, $qapprox 10^7$; it's way too much for my code.



In the game, there's two way to upgrade ability. Type A gives an additional $50%$ increase at once. and type B gives $25%$.

What I want to know is how many times of upgrade $(x,y)$ provides the same additional increase. So what I've done is solve $(3/2)^x = (5/4)^y$ respect to $frac xy$.



Can you provide me a way to construct sequence $p_n$, $q_n$ which approximate the real number?

Thank you in advance.







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  • $begingroup$
    I don't understand your game, but your number approximately $0.55034$ and thus $tfrac{55034}{100000}$ or $tfrac{5503}{10000}$. What's wrong with that?
    $endgroup$
    – amsmath
    yesterday






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    The continued fraction expansion of your irrational number will produce the best rational approximation subject to a limit on size of the denominator.
    $endgroup$
    – hardmath
    yesterday






  • 1




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    You can take truncations of the continued fraction of that number. The first few of its values start like this.
    $endgroup$
    – user647486
    yesterday












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    try 82/149 ........
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    – Will Jagy
    yesterday






  • 2




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    Cool, a practical application of continued fractions. :)
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
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  • $begingroup$
    I don't understand your game, but your number approximately $0.55034$ and thus $tfrac{55034}{100000}$ or $tfrac{5503}{10000}$. What's wrong with that?
    $endgroup$
    – amsmath
    yesterday






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    The continued fraction expansion of your irrational number will produce the best rational approximation subject to a limit on size of the denominator.
    $endgroup$
    – hardmath
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    You can take truncations of the continued fraction of that number. The first few of its values start like this.
    $endgroup$
    – user647486
    yesterday












  • $begingroup$
    try 82/149 ........
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    – Will Jagy
    yesterday






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    Cool, a practical application of continued fractions. :)
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    – Minus One-Twelfth
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I don't understand your game, but your number approximately $0.55034$ and thus $tfrac{55034}{100000}$ or $tfrac{5503}{10000}$. What's wrong with that?
$endgroup$
– amsmath
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$begingroup$
I don't understand your game, but your number approximately $0.55034$ and thus $tfrac{55034}{100000}$ or $tfrac{5503}{10000}$. What's wrong with that?
$endgroup$
– amsmath
yesterday




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The continued fraction expansion of your irrational number will produce the best rational approximation subject to a limit on size of the denominator.
$endgroup$
– hardmath
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The continued fraction expansion of your irrational number will produce the best rational approximation subject to a limit on size of the denominator.
$endgroup$
– hardmath
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You can take truncations of the continued fraction of that number. The first few of its values start like this.
$endgroup$
– user647486
yesterday






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You can take truncations of the continued fraction of that number. The first few of its values start like this.
$endgroup$
– user647486
yesterday














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try 82/149 ........
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– Will Jagy
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$begingroup$
try 82/149 ........
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– Will Jagy
yesterday




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Cool, a practical application of continued fractions. :)
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– Minus One-Twelfth
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Cool, a practical application of continued fractions. :)
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Running the extended Euclidean algorithm to find the continued fraction:



$$begin{array}{cc|cc}x&q&a&b\
hline 0.55033971 & & 0 & 1\ 1 & 0 & 1 & 0\ 0.55033971 & 1 & 0 & 1\ 0.44966029 & 1 & 1 & -1 \ 0.10067943 & 4 & -1 & 2\ 0.04694258 & 2 & 5 & -9\ 0.00679426 & 6 & -11 & 20 \ 0.00617700 & 1 & 71 & -129 \ 0.00061727 & 10 & -82 & 149\ 4.31cdot 10^{-6} & 143 & 891 & -1619 \
1.25cdot 10^{-6} & 3 & -127495 & 231666end{array}$$

The $q$ column are the quotients, that go into the continued fraction. The $a$ and $b$ columns track a linear combination of the original two that's equal to $x_n$; for example, $-11cdot 1 + 20cdot frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}approx 0.00679426$. The fraction $left|frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}right|$ is approximated by $frac{|a_n|}{|b_n|}$, with increasing accuracy.



The formulas for building this table: $q_n = leftlfloor frac {x_{n-1}}{x_n}rightrfloor$, $x_{n+1}=x_{n-1}-q_nx_n$, $a_{n+1}=a_{n-1}-q_na_n$, $b_{n+1}=b_{n-1}-q_nb_n$. Initialize with $x_0=1$, $x_{-1}$ the quantity we're trying to estimate, $a_{-1}=b_0=0$, $a_0=b_{-1}=1$.

If you run the table much large than this, watch for floating-point accuracy issues; once the $x_n$ get down close to the accuracy limit for floating point numbers near zero, you can't trust the quotients anymore.



Now, how that accuracy increases is irregular. Large quotients go with particularly good approximations - see how that quotient of $143$ means that we have to go to six-digit numerator and denominator to do better than that $frac{891}{1619}$ approximation.



It is of course a tradeoff between accuracy and how deep you go. For your purposes in costing the two upgrades, I'd probably go with that $frac{11}{20}$ approximation.






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    The continued fraction for $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$ is
    $$
    {0;1,1,4,2,6,1,color{#C00}{10},143,3,dots}
    $$

    The convergents for this continued fraction are
    $$
    left{0,1,frac12,frac59,frac{11}{20},frac{71}{129},frac{82}{149},color{#C00}{frac{891}{1619}},frac{127495}{231666},frac{383376}{696617},dotsright}
    $$

    As Ross Millikan mentions, stopping just before a large continuant like $143$ gives a particularly good approximation for the size of the denominator; in this case, the approximation $frac{891}{1619}$ is closer than $frac1{143cdot1619^2}$ to $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$.






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    The number you want to approximate is about $0.550339713213$. An excellent approximation is $frac {891}{1619}approx 0.550339715873$. I got that by using the continued fraction. When you see a large value like $143$, truncating before it yields a very good approximation.






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      (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
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    Running the extended Euclidean algorithm to find the continued fraction:



    $$begin{array}{cc|cc}x&q&a&b\
    hline 0.55033971 & & 0 & 1\ 1 & 0 & 1 & 0\ 0.55033971 & 1 & 0 & 1\ 0.44966029 & 1 & 1 & -1 \ 0.10067943 & 4 & -1 & 2\ 0.04694258 & 2 & 5 & -9\ 0.00679426 & 6 & -11 & 20 \ 0.00617700 & 1 & 71 & -129 \ 0.00061727 & 10 & -82 & 149\ 4.31cdot 10^{-6} & 143 & 891 & -1619 \
    1.25cdot 10^{-6} & 3 & -127495 & 231666end{array}$$

    The $q$ column are the quotients, that go into the continued fraction. The $a$ and $b$ columns track a linear combination of the original two that's equal to $x_n$; for example, $-11cdot 1 + 20cdot frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}approx 0.00679426$. The fraction $left|frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}right|$ is approximated by $frac{|a_n|}{|b_n|}$, with increasing accuracy.



    The formulas for building this table: $q_n = leftlfloor frac {x_{n-1}}{x_n}rightrfloor$, $x_{n+1}=x_{n-1}-q_nx_n$, $a_{n+1}=a_{n-1}-q_na_n$, $b_{n+1}=b_{n-1}-q_nb_n$. Initialize with $x_0=1$, $x_{-1}$ the quantity we're trying to estimate, $a_{-1}=b_0=0$, $a_0=b_{-1}=1$.

    If you run the table much large than this, watch for floating-point accuracy issues; once the $x_n$ get down close to the accuracy limit for floating point numbers near zero, you can't trust the quotients anymore.



    Now, how that accuracy increases is irregular. Large quotients go with particularly good approximations - see how that quotient of $143$ means that we have to go to six-digit numerator and denominator to do better than that $frac{891}{1619}$ approximation.



    It is of course a tradeoff between accuracy and how deep you go. For your purposes in costing the two upgrades, I'd probably go with that $frac{11}{20}$ approximation.






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      Running the extended Euclidean algorithm to find the continued fraction:



      $$begin{array}{cc|cc}x&q&a&b\
      hline 0.55033971 & & 0 & 1\ 1 & 0 & 1 & 0\ 0.55033971 & 1 & 0 & 1\ 0.44966029 & 1 & 1 & -1 \ 0.10067943 & 4 & -1 & 2\ 0.04694258 & 2 & 5 & -9\ 0.00679426 & 6 & -11 & 20 \ 0.00617700 & 1 & 71 & -129 \ 0.00061727 & 10 & -82 & 149\ 4.31cdot 10^{-6} & 143 & 891 & -1619 \
      1.25cdot 10^{-6} & 3 & -127495 & 231666end{array}$$

      The $q$ column are the quotients, that go into the continued fraction. The $a$ and $b$ columns track a linear combination of the original two that's equal to $x_n$; for example, $-11cdot 1 + 20cdot frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}approx 0.00679426$. The fraction $left|frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}right|$ is approximated by $frac{|a_n|}{|b_n|}$, with increasing accuracy.



      The formulas for building this table: $q_n = leftlfloor frac {x_{n-1}}{x_n}rightrfloor$, $x_{n+1}=x_{n-1}-q_nx_n$, $a_{n+1}=a_{n-1}-q_na_n$, $b_{n+1}=b_{n-1}-q_nb_n$. Initialize with $x_0=1$, $x_{-1}$ the quantity we're trying to estimate, $a_{-1}=b_0=0$, $a_0=b_{-1}=1$.

      If you run the table much large than this, watch for floating-point accuracy issues; once the $x_n$ get down close to the accuracy limit for floating point numbers near zero, you can't trust the quotients anymore.



      Now, how that accuracy increases is irregular. Large quotients go with particularly good approximations - see how that quotient of $143$ means that we have to go to six-digit numerator and denominator to do better than that $frac{891}{1619}$ approximation.



      It is of course a tradeoff between accuracy and how deep you go. For your purposes in costing the two upgrades, I'd probably go with that $frac{11}{20}$ approximation.






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        Running the extended Euclidean algorithm to find the continued fraction:



        $$begin{array}{cc|cc}x&q&a&b\
        hline 0.55033971 & & 0 & 1\ 1 & 0 & 1 & 0\ 0.55033971 & 1 & 0 & 1\ 0.44966029 & 1 & 1 & -1 \ 0.10067943 & 4 & -1 & 2\ 0.04694258 & 2 & 5 & -9\ 0.00679426 & 6 & -11 & 20 \ 0.00617700 & 1 & 71 & -129 \ 0.00061727 & 10 & -82 & 149\ 4.31cdot 10^{-6} & 143 & 891 & -1619 \
        1.25cdot 10^{-6} & 3 & -127495 & 231666end{array}$$

        The $q$ column are the quotients, that go into the continued fraction. The $a$ and $b$ columns track a linear combination of the original two that's equal to $x_n$; for example, $-11cdot 1 + 20cdot frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}approx 0.00679426$. The fraction $left|frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}right|$ is approximated by $frac{|a_n|}{|b_n|}$, with increasing accuracy.



        The formulas for building this table: $q_n = leftlfloor frac {x_{n-1}}{x_n}rightrfloor$, $x_{n+1}=x_{n-1}-q_nx_n$, $a_{n+1}=a_{n-1}-q_na_n$, $b_{n+1}=b_{n-1}-q_nb_n$. Initialize with $x_0=1$, $x_{-1}$ the quantity we're trying to estimate, $a_{-1}=b_0=0$, $a_0=b_{-1}=1$.

        If you run the table much large than this, watch for floating-point accuracy issues; once the $x_n$ get down close to the accuracy limit for floating point numbers near zero, you can't trust the quotients anymore.



        Now, how that accuracy increases is irregular. Large quotients go with particularly good approximations - see how that quotient of $143$ means that we have to go to six-digit numerator and denominator to do better than that $frac{891}{1619}$ approximation.



        It is of course a tradeoff between accuracy and how deep you go. For your purposes in costing the two upgrades, I'd probably go with that $frac{11}{20}$ approximation.






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        Running the extended Euclidean algorithm to find the continued fraction:



        $$begin{array}{cc|cc}x&q&a&b\
        hline 0.55033971 & & 0 & 1\ 1 & 0 & 1 & 0\ 0.55033971 & 1 & 0 & 1\ 0.44966029 & 1 & 1 & -1 \ 0.10067943 & 4 & -1 & 2\ 0.04694258 & 2 & 5 & -9\ 0.00679426 & 6 & -11 & 20 \ 0.00617700 & 1 & 71 & -129 \ 0.00061727 & 10 & -82 & 149\ 4.31cdot 10^{-6} & 143 & 891 & -1619 \
        1.25cdot 10^{-6} & 3 & -127495 & 231666end{array}$$

        The $q$ column are the quotients, that go into the continued fraction. The $a$ and $b$ columns track a linear combination of the original two that's equal to $x_n$; for example, $-11cdot 1 + 20cdot frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}approx 0.00679426$. The fraction $left|frac{log(5/4)}{log(3/2)}right|$ is approximated by $frac{|a_n|}{|b_n|}$, with increasing accuracy.



        The formulas for building this table: $q_n = leftlfloor frac {x_{n-1}}{x_n}rightrfloor$, $x_{n+1}=x_{n-1}-q_nx_n$, $a_{n+1}=a_{n-1}-q_na_n$, $b_{n+1}=b_{n-1}-q_nb_n$. Initialize with $x_0=1$, $x_{-1}$ the quantity we're trying to estimate, $a_{-1}=b_0=0$, $a_0=b_{-1}=1$.

        If you run the table much large than this, watch for floating-point accuracy issues; once the $x_n$ get down close to the accuracy limit for floating point numbers near zero, you can't trust the quotients anymore.



        Now, how that accuracy increases is irregular. Large quotients go with particularly good approximations - see how that quotient of $143$ means that we have to go to six-digit numerator and denominator to do better than that $frac{891}{1619}$ approximation.



        It is of course a tradeoff between accuracy and how deep you go. For your purposes in costing the two upgrades, I'd probably go with that $frac{11}{20}$ approximation.







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            The continued fraction for $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$ is
            $$
            {0;1,1,4,2,6,1,color{#C00}{10},143,3,dots}
            $$

            The convergents for this continued fraction are
            $$
            left{0,1,frac12,frac59,frac{11}{20},frac{71}{129},frac{82}{149},color{#C00}{frac{891}{1619}},frac{127495}{231666},frac{383376}{696617},dotsright}
            $$

            As Ross Millikan mentions, stopping just before a large continuant like $143$ gives a particularly good approximation for the size of the denominator; in this case, the approximation $frac{891}{1619}$ is closer than $frac1{143cdot1619^2}$ to $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$.






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            The continued fraction for $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$ is
            $$
            {0;1,1,4,2,6,1,color{#C00}{10},143,3,dots}
            $$

            The convergents for this continued fraction are
            $$
            left{0,1,frac12,frac59,frac{11}{20},frac{71}{129},frac{82}{149},color{#C00}{frac{891}{1619}},frac{127495}{231666},frac{383376}{696617},dotsright}
            $$

            As Ross Millikan mentions, stopping just before a large continuant like $143$ gives a particularly good approximation for the size of the denominator; in this case, the approximation $frac{891}{1619}$ is closer than $frac1{143cdot1619^2}$ to $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$.






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              Thank you. A good addition to my answer.
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            The continued fraction for $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$ is
            $$
            {0;1,1,4,2,6,1,color{#C00}{10},143,3,dots}
            $$

            The convergents for this continued fraction are
            $$
            left{0,1,frac12,frac59,frac{11}{20},frac{71}{129},frac{82}{149},color{#C00}{frac{891}{1619}},frac{127495}{231666},frac{383376}{696617},dotsright}
            $$

            As Ross Millikan mentions, stopping just before a large continuant like $143$ gives a particularly good approximation for the size of the denominator; in this case, the approximation $frac{891}{1619}$ is closer than $frac1{143cdot1619^2}$ to $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$.






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            The continued fraction for $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$ is
            $$
            {0;1,1,4,2,6,1,color{#C00}{10},143,3,dots}
            $$

            The convergents for this continued fraction are
            $$
            left{0,1,frac12,frac59,frac{11}{20},frac{71}{129},frac{82}{149},color{#C00}{frac{891}{1619}},frac{127495}{231666},frac{383376}{696617},dotsright}
            $$

            As Ross Millikan mentions, stopping just before a large continuant like $143$ gives a particularly good approximation for the size of the denominator; in this case, the approximation $frac{891}{1619}$ is closer than $frac1{143cdot1619^2}$ to $frac{logleft(frac54right)}{logleft(frac32right)}$.







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            Thank you. A good addition to my answer.
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            The number you want to approximate is about $0.550339713213$. An excellent approximation is $frac {891}{1619}approx 0.550339715873$. I got that by using the continued fraction. When you see a large value like $143$, truncating before it yields a very good approximation.






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              (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
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            $begingroup$

            The number you want to approximate is about $0.550339713213$. An excellent approximation is $frac {891}{1619}approx 0.550339715873$. I got that by using the continued fraction. When you see a large value like $143$, truncating before it yields a very good approximation.






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              $begingroup$
              (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
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            $begingroup$

            The number you want to approximate is about $0.550339713213$. An excellent approximation is $frac {891}{1619}approx 0.550339715873$. I got that by using the continued fraction. When you see a large value like $143$, truncating before it yields a very good approximation.






            share|cite|improve this answer









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            The number you want to approximate is about $0.550339713213$. An excellent approximation is $frac {891}{1619}approx 0.550339715873$. I got that by using the continued fraction. When you see a large value like $143$, truncating before it yields a very good approximation.







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              $begingroup$
              (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
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            • 1




              $begingroup$
              (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
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              yesterday










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            $begingroup$
            (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
            $endgroup$
            – robjohn
            yesterday






            $begingroup$
            (+1) I wondered where you got $143$ until I actually computed the continued fraction. I'd hoped it was okay to expand upon your answer to show where that number came from. Also to mention that if $frac pq$ is a continued fraction approximation and $c$ is the next term in the conitnued fraction (which I think is called a continuant), then $frac pq$ is closer than $frac1{cq^2}$ to the value approximated.
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