How to open a PDF form file that says Please wait…?
When I try to open the PDF file I need it looks this way (I have tried Evince, Chrome and Firefox), saying
Please wait...
If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.
For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
I have found an explanation saying
Certain PDF files (dynamic XFA forms) created in Adobe LiveCycle can only be opened in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat. When you try to open these files in an alternative PDF viewer, then you will see this error message.
How are such files meant to be opened on Ubuntu given the official Adobe Acrobat Reader package is deprecated?
It's not a real problem for me practically as I have actually managed to install Adobe Acrobat Reader 9 (BTW I am, however, afraid this ancient version is going to start having problems with opening new files of this kind soon) on XUbuntu 15.10 a reasonably tidy way by unpacking the old Ubuntu DEB package, putting the necessary files to a subdirectory in /opt and editing the Reader's launch scripts but I believe it's a pretty serious issue for using Ubuntu in commercial/academy/government environments so there is to be a more proper way.
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When I try to open the PDF file I need it looks this way (I have tried Evince, Chrome and Firefox), saying
Please wait...
If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.
For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
I have found an explanation saying
Certain PDF files (dynamic XFA forms) created in Adobe LiveCycle can only be opened in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat. When you try to open these files in an alternative PDF viewer, then you will see this error message.
How are such files meant to be opened on Ubuntu given the official Adobe Acrobat Reader package is deprecated?
It's not a real problem for me practically as I have actually managed to install Adobe Acrobat Reader 9 (BTW I am, however, afraid this ancient version is going to start having problems with opening new files of this kind soon) on XUbuntu 15.10 a reasonably tidy way by unpacking the old Ubuntu DEB package, putting the necessary files to a subdirectory in /opt and editing the Reader's launch scripts but I believe it's a pretty serious issue for using Ubuntu in commercial/academy/government environments so there is to be a more proper way.
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I could open it with Adobe Reader 9 for Linux. But it is not officially available for download any more.
– Pilot6
Mar 31 '16 at 19:55
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When I try to open the PDF file I need it looks this way (I have tried Evince, Chrome and Firefox), saying
Please wait...
If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.
For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
I have found an explanation saying
Certain PDF files (dynamic XFA forms) created in Adobe LiveCycle can only be opened in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat. When you try to open these files in an alternative PDF viewer, then you will see this error message.
How are such files meant to be opened on Ubuntu given the official Adobe Acrobat Reader package is deprecated?
It's not a real problem for me practically as I have actually managed to install Adobe Acrobat Reader 9 (BTW I am, however, afraid this ancient version is going to start having problems with opening new files of this kind soon) on XUbuntu 15.10 a reasonably tidy way by unpacking the old Ubuntu DEB package, putting the necessary files to a subdirectory in /opt and editing the Reader's launch scripts but I believe it's a pretty serious issue for using Ubuntu in commercial/academy/government environments so there is to be a more proper way.
pdf evince adobe
When I try to open the PDF file I need it looks this way (I have tried Evince, Chrome and Firefox), saying
Please wait...
If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.
For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
I have found an explanation saying
Certain PDF files (dynamic XFA forms) created in Adobe LiveCycle can only be opened in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat. When you try to open these files in an alternative PDF viewer, then you will see this error message.
How are such files meant to be opened on Ubuntu given the official Adobe Acrobat Reader package is deprecated?
It's not a real problem for me practically as I have actually managed to install Adobe Acrobat Reader 9 (BTW I am, however, afraid this ancient version is going to start having problems with opening new files of this kind soon) on XUbuntu 15.10 a reasonably tidy way by unpacking the old Ubuntu DEB package, putting the necessary files to a subdirectory in /opt and editing the Reader's launch scripts but I believe it's a pretty serious issue for using Ubuntu in commercial/academy/government environments so there is to be a more proper way.
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pdf evince adobe
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I could open it with Adobe Reader 9 for Linux. But it is not officially available for download any more.
– Pilot6
Mar 31 '16 at 19:55
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I could open it with Adobe Reader 9 for Linux. But it is not officially available for download any more.
– Pilot6
Mar 31 '16 at 19:55
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I could open it with Adobe Reader 9 for Linux. But it is not officially available for download any more.
– Pilot6
Mar 31 '16 at 19:55
I could open it with Adobe Reader 9 for Linux. But it is not officially available for download any more.
– Pilot6
Mar 31 '16 at 19:55
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Try Master PDF Editor (proprietary). The free version is good for viewing, but for editing probably not (I read that it leaves watermarks).
You can also use the outdated, unsupported, probably very insecure, old Adobe Reader 9 for Linux.
I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
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Recent drafts of PDF next-generation (ISO 32000-2) note that there was a vote to deprecate XFA:
Editor’s note: XFA forms have been deprecated from ISO 32000-2 in accordance with the outcome of the letter ballot following the Pretoria meetings.
As explained at 3 Alternatives to the Adobe PDF Reader on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information, features like Extended form filling (such as XFA Forms) and Embedded 3D models won't work in most open source implementations.
So I suggest pushing back to the people producing the documents, explaining that they are not accessible to people in a variety of situations, are not supported by e.g. the Chrome PDF viewer or open source viewers, and that they thus increase the attack surface and increase security risks. So they should drop use of XFA.
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+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
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Chrome should work BUT Chrome first needs the NotablePDF plugin to actually view the PDF. Make sure you have that plugin. That should get you smooth sailing viewing PDF via a browser. Can be found in the Chrome App Store.
Okular is supposed to be one of the most stable PDF readers on Linux systems. It is the default viewer in KDE. It has a little more features than Evince, which I saw you've already tried.
Good Luck and Enjoy.
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
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I just now used the free online service at https://speedtesting.herokuapp.com/pdfxfa/ "XFA PDF to Normal PDF (XFA Form Flatten)". Worked perfectly for me, I used it for just one fillable pdf that I couldn't view or print because it was in this annoying XFA fillable format :-(
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Try Master PDF Editor (proprietary). The free version is good for viewing, but for editing probably not (I read that it leaves watermarks).
You can also use the outdated, unsupported, probably very insecure, old Adobe Reader 9 for Linux.
I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
add a comment |
Try Master PDF Editor (proprietary). The free version is good for viewing, but for editing probably not (I read that it leaves watermarks).
You can also use the outdated, unsupported, probably very insecure, old Adobe Reader 9 for Linux.
I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
add a comment |
Try Master PDF Editor (proprietary). The free version is good for viewing, but for editing probably not (I read that it leaves watermarks).
You can also use the outdated, unsupported, probably very insecure, old Adobe Reader 9 for Linux.
Try Master PDF Editor (proprietary). The free version is good for viewing, but for editing probably not (I read that it leaves watermarks).
You can also use the outdated, unsupported, probably very insecure, old Adobe Reader 9 for Linux.
edited Jun 5 '17 at 3:09
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I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
add a comment |
I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
I used Master PDF Editor and was really surprised that it can open these types of files! As far as I know, this is the only non-Adobe solution I've ever seen, wonder how they did it?! Kudos to them and thanks for the answer
– Hamman Samuel
Dec 4 '17 at 1:23
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
It opened it but it doesn't allow editing it. It says "This form is compatible only with Adobe Reader or Acrobat".
– David Graham
Dec 17 '17 at 16:07
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
Master PDF Editor works!
– Goran Horia Mihail
Jul 4 '18 at 11:41
add a comment |
Recent drafts of PDF next-generation (ISO 32000-2) note that there was a vote to deprecate XFA:
Editor’s note: XFA forms have been deprecated from ISO 32000-2 in accordance with the outcome of the letter ballot following the Pretoria meetings.
As explained at 3 Alternatives to the Adobe PDF Reader on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information, features like Extended form filling (such as XFA Forms) and Embedded 3D models won't work in most open source implementations.
So I suggest pushing back to the people producing the documents, explaining that they are not accessible to people in a variety of situations, are not supported by e.g. the Chrome PDF viewer or open source viewers, and that they thus increase the attack surface and increase security risks. So they should drop use of XFA.
3
+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
add a comment |
Recent drafts of PDF next-generation (ISO 32000-2) note that there was a vote to deprecate XFA:
Editor’s note: XFA forms have been deprecated from ISO 32000-2 in accordance with the outcome of the letter ballot following the Pretoria meetings.
As explained at 3 Alternatives to the Adobe PDF Reader on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information, features like Extended form filling (such as XFA Forms) and Embedded 3D models won't work in most open source implementations.
So I suggest pushing back to the people producing the documents, explaining that they are not accessible to people in a variety of situations, are not supported by e.g. the Chrome PDF viewer or open source viewers, and that they thus increase the attack surface and increase security risks. So they should drop use of XFA.
3
+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
add a comment |
Recent drafts of PDF next-generation (ISO 32000-2) note that there was a vote to deprecate XFA:
Editor’s note: XFA forms have been deprecated from ISO 32000-2 in accordance with the outcome of the letter ballot following the Pretoria meetings.
As explained at 3 Alternatives to the Adobe PDF Reader on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information, features like Extended form filling (such as XFA Forms) and Embedded 3D models won't work in most open source implementations.
So I suggest pushing back to the people producing the documents, explaining that they are not accessible to people in a variety of situations, are not supported by e.g. the Chrome PDF viewer or open source viewers, and that they thus increase the attack surface and increase security risks. So they should drop use of XFA.
Recent drafts of PDF next-generation (ISO 32000-2) note that there was a vote to deprecate XFA:
Editor’s note: XFA forms have been deprecated from ISO 32000-2 in accordance with the outcome of the letter ballot following the Pretoria meetings.
As explained at 3 Alternatives to the Adobe PDF Reader on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information, features like Extended form filling (such as XFA Forms) and Embedded 3D models won't work in most open source implementations.
So I suggest pushing back to the people producing the documents, explaining that they are not accessible to people in a variety of situations, are not supported by e.g. the Chrome PDF viewer or open source viewers, and that they thus increase the attack surface and increase security risks. So they should drop use of XFA.
answered Aug 4 '16 at 19:15
nealmcbnealmcb
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+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
add a comment |
3
+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
3
3
+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
+1 for the advise not to inflict these annoying documents on the world in the first place!
– cbare
Sep 16 '16 at 16:10
add a comment |
Chrome should work BUT Chrome first needs the NotablePDF plugin to actually view the PDF. Make sure you have that plugin. That should get you smooth sailing viewing PDF via a browser. Can be found in the Chrome App Store.
Okular is supposed to be one of the most stable PDF readers on Linux systems. It is the default viewer in KDE. It has a little more features than Evince, which I saw you've already tried.
Good Luck and Enjoy.
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
add a comment |
Chrome should work BUT Chrome first needs the NotablePDF plugin to actually view the PDF. Make sure you have that plugin. That should get you smooth sailing viewing PDF via a browser. Can be found in the Chrome App Store.
Okular is supposed to be one of the most stable PDF readers on Linux systems. It is the default viewer in KDE. It has a little more features than Evince, which I saw you've already tried.
Good Luck and Enjoy.
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
add a comment |
Chrome should work BUT Chrome first needs the NotablePDF plugin to actually view the PDF. Make sure you have that plugin. That should get you smooth sailing viewing PDF via a browser. Can be found in the Chrome App Store.
Okular is supposed to be one of the most stable PDF readers on Linux systems. It is the default viewer in KDE. It has a little more features than Evince, which I saw you've already tried.
Good Luck and Enjoy.
Chrome should work BUT Chrome first needs the NotablePDF plugin to actually view the PDF. Make sure you have that plugin. That should get you smooth sailing viewing PDF via a browser. Can be found in the Chrome App Store.
Okular is supposed to be one of the most stable PDF readers on Linux systems. It is the default viewer in KDE. It has a little more features than Evince, which I saw you've already tried.
Good Luck and Enjoy.
answered Apr 15 '16 at 22:53
Software_ProgramineerSoftware_Programineer
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421210
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
add a comment |
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
Notable now known as Kami PDF does not work
– Stevie G
Jun 21 '16 at 6:51
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've tried this one and the effect is the same, i. e. not working. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.
– Ivan
Feb 19 '17 at 17:34
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
I've had no problems filling out Adobe forms in current versions of Chrome by default. no plugins required.
– Elder Geek
Feb 13 '18 at 14:18
add a comment |
I just now used the free online service at https://speedtesting.herokuapp.com/pdfxfa/ "XFA PDF to Normal PDF (XFA Form Flatten)". Worked perfectly for me, I used it for just one fillable pdf that I couldn't view or print because it was in this annoying XFA fillable format :-(
add a comment |
I just now used the free online service at https://speedtesting.herokuapp.com/pdfxfa/ "XFA PDF to Normal PDF (XFA Form Flatten)". Worked perfectly for me, I used it for just one fillable pdf that I couldn't view or print because it was in this annoying XFA fillable format :-(
add a comment |
I just now used the free online service at https://speedtesting.herokuapp.com/pdfxfa/ "XFA PDF to Normal PDF (XFA Form Flatten)". Worked perfectly for me, I used it for just one fillable pdf that I couldn't view or print because it was in this annoying XFA fillable format :-(
I just now used the free online service at https://speedtesting.herokuapp.com/pdfxfa/ "XFA PDF to Normal PDF (XFA Form Flatten)". Worked perfectly for me, I used it for just one fillable pdf that I couldn't view or print because it was in this annoying XFA fillable format :-(
answered Mar 15 at 22:33
Paul PopperPaul Popper
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I could open it with Adobe Reader 9 for Linux. But it is not officially available for download any more.
– Pilot6
Mar 31 '16 at 19:55