Explicit solution of a Hamiltonian system
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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanhleft(frac{t}{sqrt2}right),qquad y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2left(frac{t}{sqrt2}right) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.
Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.
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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanhleft(frac{t}{sqrt2}right),qquad y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2left(frac{t}{sqrt2}right) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.
Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.
dg.differential-geometry ca.classical-analysis-and-odes differential-equations
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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanhleft(frac{t}{sqrt2}right),qquad y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2left(frac{t}{sqrt2}right) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.
Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.
dg.differential-geometry ca.classical-analysis-and-odes differential-equations
New contributor
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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanhleft(frac{t}{sqrt2}right),qquad y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2left(frac{t}{sqrt2}right) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.
Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}
with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.
dg.differential-geometry ca.classical-analysis-and-odes differential-equations
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Edited.
Surprisingly, there is an elementary solution, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.
Your equation is equivalent to
$$left(frac{dx}{dt}right)^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=dx/dt$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $H=1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$frac{t}{sqrt{3}}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=:I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.
To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function to this integral is elementary. Integrating and returning to the original variables, I obtained the general solution
$$x(t)=sqrt{frac{1+cosh(2t+c)}{2+cosh(2t+c)}}.$$
Can you check this computation?
Of course, your value $1/3$ for the Hamiltonian is crucial here. With
some other value you obtain a much more complicated integral which cannot be expressed in elementary functions. Where did this $1/3$ come from?
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Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
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– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
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Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
1
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@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
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1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
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If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
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Edited.
Surprisingly, there is an elementary solution, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.
Your equation is equivalent to
$$left(frac{dx}{dt}right)^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=dx/dt$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $H=1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$frac{t}{sqrt{3}}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=:I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.
To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function to this integral is elementary. Integrating and returning to the original variables, I obtained the general solution
$$x(t)=sqrt{frac{1+cosh(2t+c)}{2+cosh(2t+c)}}.$$
Can you check this computation?
Of course, your value $1/3$ for the Hamiltonian is crucial here. With
some other value you obtain a much more complicated integral which cannot be expressed in elementary functions. Where did this $1/3$ come from?
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Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
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– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
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Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
1
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@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
1
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1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
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If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
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Edited.
Surprisingly, there is an elementary solution, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.
Your equation is equivalent to
$$left(frac{dx}{dt}right)^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=dx/dt$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $H=1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$frac{t}{sqrt{3}}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=:I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.
To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function to this integral is elementary. Integrating and returning to the original variables, I obtained the general solution
$$x(t)=sqrt{frac{1+cosh(2t+c)}{2+cosh(2t+c)}}.$$
Can you check this computation?
Of course, your value $1/3$ for the Hamiltonian is crucial here. With
some other value you obtain a much more complicated integral which cannot be expressed in elementary functions. Where did this $1/3$ come from?
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2
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
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– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
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Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
1
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@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
1
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1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
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If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
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show 2 more comments
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Edited.
Surprisingly, there is an elementary solution, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.
Your equation is equivalent to
$$left(frac{dx}{dt}right)^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=dx/dt$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $H=1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$frac{t}{sqrt{3}}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=:I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.
To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function to this integral is elementary. Integrating and returning to the original variables, I obtained the general solution
$$x(t)=sqrt{frac{1+cosh(2t+c)}{2+cosh(2t+c)}}.$$
Can you check this computation?
Of course, your value $1/3$ for the Hamiltonian is crucial here. With
some other value you obtain a much more complicated integral which cannot be expressed in elementary functions. Where did this $1/3$ come from?
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Edited.
Surprisingly, there is an elementary solution, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.
Your equation is equivalent to
$$left(frac{dx}{dt}right)^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=dx/dt$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $H=1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$frac{t}{sqrt{3}}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=:I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.
To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function to this integral is elementary. Integrating and returning to the original variables, I obtained the general solution
$$x(t)=sqrt{frac{1+cosh(2t+c)}{2+cosh(2t+c)}}.$$
Can you check this computation?
Of course, your value $1/3$ for the Hamiltonian is crucial here. With
some other value you obtain a much more complicated integral which cannot be expressed in elementary functions. Where did this $1/3$ come from?
edited Mar 29 at 1:33
answered Mar 28 at 18:42
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Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
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– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
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Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
1
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@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
1
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1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
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If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
|
show 2 more comments
2
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
$begingroup$
Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
$begingroup$
If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
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– xpaul
2 days ago
2
2
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Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
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– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. This is what I wanted.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
Mar 28 at 21:29
$begingroup$
Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Note it is much clearer than before. I really appreciate your help.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
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@xpaul: tell me where your $1/3$ comes from.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
2 days ago
1
1
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1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
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1/3 is from fact that when $H(x,y)=alpha$ passes through the separatrices $(pm1,0)$, $alpha=1/3$.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
$begingroup$
If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
$endgroup$
– xpaul
2 days ago
$begingroup$
If I plug in your $x(t)$, I get $y=x'(t)=frac{sinh (c+2 t)}{sqrt{frac{cosh (c+2 t)+1}{cosh (c+2 t)+2}} (cosh (c+2 t)+2)^2}$ but I find $frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}6neqfrac13$.
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