The past tense for the quoting particle って












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I have this sentence in front of me




耳元で男の人の声がするのが耐えられないって




which is translated as:




she said she couldn't stand hearing a male voice near her ear.




If I am right, here, って is actually translated as "said" which makes me realise, I am only familiar with the present form of quoting particles と and って. Taking into the account that 耐えられない is the present form of the verb, and the translation is about something which happened in the past, I feel that I am actually ignorant about the grammar of the quoting particle.



How do we know if the quoting is about something which is happening now (says) or something which happened in the past (said), do we use the same quoting particle for past and present? If so, how do we recognise the difference?










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I have this sentence in front of me




耳元で男の人の声がするのが耐えられないって




which is translated as:




she said she couldn't stand hearing a male voice near her ear.




If I am right, here, って is actually translated as "said" which makes me realise, I am only familiar with the present form of quoting particles と and って. Taking into the account that 耐えられない is the present form of the verb, and the translation is about something which happened in the past, I feel that I am actually ignorant about the grammar of the quoting particle.



How do we know if the quoting is about something which is happening now (says) or something which happened in the past (said), do we use the same quoting particle for past and present? If so, how do we recognise the difference?










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    1 hour ago
















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I have this sentence in front of me




耳元で男の人の声がするのが耐えられないって




which is translated as:




she said she couldn't stand hearing a male voice near her ear.




If I am right, here, って is actually translated as "said" which makes me realise, I am only familiar with the present form of quoting particles と and って. Taking into the account that 耐えられない is the present form of the verb, and the translation is about something which happened in the past, I feel that I am actually ignorant about the grammar of the quoting particle.



How do we know if the quoting is about something which is happening now (says) or something which happened in the past (said), do we use the same quoting particle for past and present? If so, how do we recognise the difference?










share|improve this question
















I have this sentence in front of me




耳元で男の人の声がするのが耐えられないって




which is translated as:




she said she couldn't stand hearing a male voice near her ear.




If I am right, here, って is actually translated as "said" which makes me realise, I am only familiar with the present form of quoting particles と and って. Taking into the account that 耐えられない is the present form of the verb, and the translation is about something which happened in the past, I feel that I am actually ignorant about the grammar of the quoting particle.



How do we know if the quoting is about something which is happening now (says) or something which happened in the past (said), do we use the same quoting particle for past and present? If so, how do we recognise the difference?







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  • Related? japanese.stackexchange.com/a/43241/9831 明日は雨だって。 [They say / I heard] it will rain tomorrow.

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  • Related? japanese.stackexchange.com/a/43241/9831 明日は雨だって。 [They say / I heard] it will rain tomorrow.

    – Chocolate
    1 hour ago



















Related? japanese.stackexchange.com/a/43241/9831 明日は雨だって。 [They say / I heard] it will rain tomorrow.

– Chocolate
1 hour ago







Related? japanese.stackexchange.com/a/43241/9831 明日は雨だって。 [They say / I heard] it will rain tomorrow.

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The quoting particle と (or って) is tenseless, just as the quotation marks " for direct speech (she said "I want to sing"), or that for indirect speech (she said that she wanted to sing) are tenseless.



The tense is reflected in the verb that is used with the quoting particle, e.g.




  • ~といいました

  • ~といった

  • ~といっています


In your example sentence, the correct tense for translation into English has to be determined from the context of the original sentence, as there is no verb to read off the tense.






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    The quoting particle と (or って) is tenseless, just as the quotation marks " for direct speech (she said "I want to sing"), or that for indirect speech (she said that she wanted to sing) are tenseless.



    The tense is reflected in the verb that is used with the quoting particle, e.g.




    • ~といいました

    • ~といった

    • ~といっています


    In your example sentence, the correct tense for translation into English has to be determined from the context of the original sentence, as there is no verb to read off the tense.






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      The quoting particle と (or って) is tenseless, just as the quotation marks " for direct speech (she said "I want to sing"), or that for indirect speech (she said that she wanted to sing) are tenseless.



      The tense is reflected in the verb that is used with the quoting particle, e.g.




      • ~といいました

      • ~といった

      • ~といっています


      In your example sentence, the correct tense for translation into English has to be determined from the context of the original sentence, as there is no verb to read off the tense.






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        The quoting particle と (or って) is tenseless, just as the quotation marks " for direct speech (she said "I want to sing"), or that for indirect speech (she said that she wanted to sing) are tenseless.



        The tense is reflected in the verb that is used with the quoting particle, e.g.




        • ~といいました

        • ~といった

        • ~といっています


        In your example sentence, the correct tense for translation into English has to be determined from the context of the original sentence, as there is no verb to read off the tense.






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        The quoting particle と (or って) is tenseless, just as the quotation marks " for direct speech (she said "I want to sing"), or that for indirect speech (she said that she wanted to sing) are tenseless.



        The tense is reflected in the verb that is used with the quoting particle, e.g.




        • ~といいました

        • ~といった

        • ~といっています


        In your example sentence, the correct tense for translation into English has to be determined from the context of the original sentence, as there is no verb to read off the tense.







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