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Gnome System Monitor is listed twice in Applications Overview. Using the Software center I determined one of them is a snap version, while the other isn't a snap. They appear to be identical in the applications Overview. Gnome Calculator is another example, and I'm sure there are more.
Can I remove the snap version and use the other one without any issues?
As the question clearly states: Why are two versions of software with identical names installed on Ubuntu 18.04? The suggested duplicate of this question does not answer the question.
By the way, the non-snap (apt version) of Gnome System Monitor is listed in the software Center twice, adding to the confusion, both listed as version 3.28.2-0Ubuntu1. Why is this happening?
Ubuntu release 18.04 new installation (not an upgrade).
snap
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Gnome System Monitor is listed twice in Applications Overview. Using the Software center I determined one of them is a snap version, while the other isn't a snap. They appear to be identical in the applications Overview. Gnome Calculator is another example, and I'm sure there are more.
Can I remove the snap version and use the other one without any issues?
As the question clearly states: Why are two versions of software with identical names installed on Ubuntu 18.04? The suggested duplicate of this question does not answer the question.
By the way, the non-snap (apt version) of Gnome System Monitor is listed in the software Center twice, adding to the confusion, both listed as version 3.28.2-0Ubuntu1. Why is this happening?
Ubuntu release 18.04 new installation (not an upgrade).
snap
2
You should be able to remove the snap one use the traditional one without any issues.
– pomsky
Jun 27 '18 at 13:09
Could you clarify what Ubuntu version you use? Is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Jun 27 '18 at 13:10
1
Possible duplicate of Why have Canonical installed core Gnome apps as Snaps by default?
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 3:58
6
@muru Thank you for the suggestion, but It is not a duplicate of that other question because mine asks why two version of the same application are installed.
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:36
2
Well, if you didn't, somebody did. You can start a VM or check the manifest here: releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.manifest, butgnome-system-monitor
is not installed by default via apt. Really, please, show us proof that it's installed by default.
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 9:26
|
show 1 more comment
Gnome System Monitor is listed twice in Applications Overview. Using the Software center I determined one of them is a snap version, while the other isn't a snap. They appear to be identical in the applications Overview. Gnome Calculator is another example, and I'm sure there are more.
Can I remove the snap version and use the other one without any issues?
As the question clearly states: Why are two versions of software with identical names installed on Ubuntu 18.04? The suggested duplicate of this question does not answer the question.
By the way, the non-snap (apt version) of Gnome System Monitor is listed in the software Center twice, adding to the confusion, both listed as version 3.28.2-0Ubuntu1. Why is this happening?
Ubuntu release 18.04 new installation (not an upgrade).
snap
Gnome System Monitor is listed twice in Applications Overview. Using the Software center I determined one of them is a snap version, while the other isn't a snap. They appear to be identical in the applications Overview. Gnome Calculator is another example, and I'm sure there are more.
Can I remove the snap version and use the other one without any issues?
As the question clearly states: Why are two versions of software with identical names installed on Ubuntu 18.04? The suggested duplicate of this question does not answer the question.
By the way, the non-snap (apt version) of Gnome System Monitor is listed in the software Center twice, adding to the confusion, both listed as version 3.28.2-0Ubuntu1. Why is this happening?
Ubuntu release 18.04 new installation (not an upgrade).
snap
snap
edited Jun 30 '18 at 9:19
jordy
asked Jun 27 '18 at 13:07
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You should be able to remove the snap one use the traditional one without any issues.
– pomsky
Jun 27 '18 at 13:09
Could you clarify what Ubuntu version you use? Is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Jun 27 '18 at 13:10
1
Possible duplicate of Why have Canonical installed core Gnome apps as Snaps by default?
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 3:58
6
@muru Thank you for the suggestion, but It is not a duplicate of that other question because mine asks why two version of the same application are installed.
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:36
2
Well, if you didn't, somebody did. You can start a VM or check the manifest here: releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.manifest, butgnome-system-monitor
is not installed by default via apt. Really, please, show us proof that it's installed by default.
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 9:26
|
show 1 more comment
2
You should be able to remove the snap one use the traditional one without any issues.
– pomsky
Jun 27 '18 at 13:09
Could you clarify what Ubuntu version you use? Is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Jun 27 '18 at 13:10
1
Possible duplicate of Why have Canonical installed core Gnome apps as Snaps by default?
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 3:58
6
@muru Thank you for the suggestion, but It is not a duplicate of that other question because mine asks why two version of the same application are installed.
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:36
2
Well, if you didn't, somebody did. You can start a VM or check the manifest here: releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.manifest, butgnome-system-monitor
is not installed by default via apt. Really, please, show us proof that it's installed by default.
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 9:26
2
2
You should be able to remove the snap one use the traditional one without any issues.
– pomsky
Jun 27 '18 at 13:09
You should be able to remove the snap one use the traditional one without any issues.
– pomsky
Jun 27 '18 at 13:09
Could you clarify what Ubuntu version you use? Is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Jun 27 '18 at 13:10
Could you clarify what Ubuntu version you use? Is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Jun 27 '18 at 13:10
1
1
Possible duplicate of Why have Canonical installed core Gnome apps as Snaps by default?
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 3:58
Possible duplicate of Why have Canonical installed core Gnome apps as Snaps by default?
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 3:58
6
6
@muru Thank you for the suggestion, but It is not a duplicate of that other question because mine asks why two version of the same application are installed.
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:36
@muru Thank you for the suggestion, but It is not a duplicate of that other question because mine asks why two version of the same application are installed.
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:36
2
2
Well, if you didn't, somebody did. You can start a VM or check the manifest here: releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.manifest, but
gnome-system-monitor
is not installed by default via apt. Really, please, show us proof that it's installed by default.– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 9:26
Well, if you didn't, somebody did. You can start a VM or check the manifest here: releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.manifest, but
gnome-system-monitor
is not installed by default via apt. Really, please, show us proof that it's installed by default.– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 9:26
|
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Replacing some GNOME apps with Snaps is developers' decision to support modern glossy non-geek GNOME "functionality".
How to remove such snaps?
Search them by snap list
:
$ snap list
Name Version Rev Tracking Developer Notes
core 16-2.33 4830 stable canonical core
gnome-3-26-1604 3.26.0 64 stable/… canonical -
gnome-calculator 3.28.1 178 stable/… canonical -
gnome-characters 3.28.2 101 stable/… canonical -
gnome-logs 3.28.2 37 stable/… canonical -
gnome-system-monitor 3.26.0 45 stable/… canonical -
and then remove them with for example
snap remove gnome-system-monitor
And then install regular package with for example
sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
Some deb-packages could be installed into the system as dependencies of other packages . For example gnome-system-monitor
is a dependency of the following packages:
$ apt-cache rdepends gnome-system-monitor
gnome-system-monitor
Reverse Depends:
gnome-core
vanilla-gnome-desktop
ubuntu-unity-desktop
ubuntu-budgie-desktop
gnome-applets
|compiz-gnome
cinnamon-desktop-environment
$ aptitude why gnome-system-monitor
i xinit Recommends gnome-terminal | xterm | x-session-manager | x-windo
w-manager | x-terminal-emulator
p compiz Provides x-window-manager
p compiz Depends compiz-gnome
p compiz-gnome Recommends gnome-system-monitor | mate-system-monitor
see corresponding man-pages for the syntax of used commands (man apt-cache
and man aptitude
).
1
This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
add a comment |
That's simple, one of the apps is of the tradition package manager(.deb extension) and another is of the snappy package. The tradition apps are faster in the opening, the snappy apps are slow but they provide users better control over permissions. Snap is a new format thus it still has some issues like some snap app doesn't follow your theme, slow loading, etc but at the same time, it is better than apt in providing updates.
If I create a deb package for Ubuntu 18.04 then that package will work only for 18.04 not even for 18.10. I also have to make a deb package for all versions of Ubuntu.
Snaps are not ready to replace deb packages and many people don't even want to use snap packages at all so there are both versions in store traditional as well as the snap packages.
This is what Vlc says for having 2 versions of the app on the store.
VLC for Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions is packaged using snapcraft. This allows us to distribute latest and greatest VLC versions directly to end users, with security and critical bug fixes, full codec and optical media support.
If you wish to install the traditional deb package, it is available as usual via APT, with all security and critical bug fixes. However, there will be no major VLC version updates until the next Ubuntu release.
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Replacing some GNOME apps with Snaps is developers' decision to support modern glossy non-geek GNOME "functionality".
How to remove such snaps?
Search them by snap list
:
$ snap list
Name Version Rev Tracking Developer Notes
core 16-2.33 4830 stable canonical core
gnome-3-26-1604 3.26.0 64 stable/… canonical -
gnome-calculator 3.28.1 178 stable/… canonical -
gnome-characters 3.28.2 101 stable/… canonical -
gnome-logs 3.28.2 37 stable/… canonical -
gnome-system-monitor 3.26.0 45 stable/… canonical -
and then remove them with for example
snap remove gnome-system-monitor
And then install regular package with for example
sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
Some deb-packages could be installed into the system as dependencies of other packages . For example gnome-system-monitor
is a dependency of the following packages:
$ apt-cache rdepends gnome-system-monitor
gnome-system-monitor
Reverse Depends:
gnome-core
vanilla-gnome-desktop
ubuntu-unity-desktop
ubuntu-budgie-desktop
gnome-applets
|compiz-gnome
cinnamon-desktop-environment
$ aptitude why gnome-system-monitor
i xinit Recommends gnome-terminal | xterm | x-session-manager | x-windo
w-manager | x-terminal-emulator
p compiz Provides x-window-manager
p compiz Depends compiz-gnome
p compiz-gnome Recommends gnome-system-monitor | mate-system-monitor
see corresponding man-pages for the syntax of used commands (man apt-cache
and man aptitude
).
1
This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
add a comment |
Replacing some GNOME apps with Snaps is developers' decision to support modern glossy non-geek GNOME "functionality".
How to remove such snaps?
Search them by snap list
:
$ snap list
Name Version Rev Tracking Developer Notes
core 16-2.33 4830 stable canonical core
gnome-3-26-1604 3.26.0 64 stable/… canonical -
gnome-calculator 3.28.1 178 stable/… canonical -
gnome-characters 3.28.2 101 stable/… canonical -
gnome-logs 3.28.2 37 stable/… canonical -
gnome-system-monitor 3.26.0 45 stable/… canonical -
and then remove them with for example
snap remove gnome-system-monitor
And then install regular package with for example
sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
Some deb-packages could be installed into the system as dependencies of other packages . For example gnome-system-monitor
is a dependency of the following packages:
$ apt-cache rdepends gnome-system-monitor
gnome-system-monitor
Reverse Depends:
gnome-core
vanilla-gnome-desktop
ubuntu-unity-desktop
ubuntu-budgie-desktop
gnome-applets
|compiz-gnome
cinnamon-desktop-environment
$ aptitude why gnome-system-monitor
i xinit Recommends gnome-terminal | xterm | x-session-manager | x-windo
w-manager | x-terminal-emulator
p compiz Provides x-window-manager
p compiz Depends compiz-gnome
p compiz-gnome Recommends gnome-system-monitor | mate-system-monitor
see corresponding man-pages for the syntax of used commands (man apt-cache
and man aptitude
).
1
This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
add a comment |
Replacing some GNOME apps with Snaps is developers' decision to support modern glossy non-geek GNOME "functionality".
How to remove such snaps?
Search them by snap list
:
$ snap list
Name Version Rev Tracking Developer Notes
core 16-2.33 4830 stable canonical core
gnome-3-26-1604 3.26.0 64 stable/… canonical -
gnome-calculator 3.28.1 178 stable/… canonical -
gnome-characters 3.28.2 101 stable/… canonical -
gnome-logs 3.28.2 37 stable/… canonical -
gnome-system-monitor 3.26.0 45 stable/… canonical -
and then remove them with for example
snap remove gnome-system-monitor
And then install regular package with for example
sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
Some deb-packages could be installed into the system as dependencies of other packages . For example gnome-system-monitor
is a dependency of the following packages:
$ apt-cache rdepends gnome-system-monitor
gnome-system-monitor
Reverse Depends:
gnome-core
vanilla-gnome-desktop
ubuntu-unity-desktop
ubuntu-budgie-desktop
gnome-applets
|compiz-gnome
cinnamon-desktop-environment
$ aptitude why gnome-system-monitor
i xinit Recommends gnome-terminal | xterm | x-session-manager | x-windo
w-manager | x-terminal-emulator
p compiz Provides x-window-manager
p compiz Depends compiz-gnome
p compiz-gnome Recommends gnome-system-monitor | mate-system-monitor
see corresponding man-pages for the syntax of used commands (man apt-cache
and man aptitude
).
Replacing some GNOME apps with Snaps is developers' decision to support modern glossy non-geek GNOME "functionality".
How to remove such snaps?
Search them by snap list
:
$ snap list
Name Version Rev Tracking Developer Notes
core 16-2.33 4830 stable canonical core
gnome-3-26-1604 3.26.0 64 stable/… canonical -
gnome-calculator 3.28.1 178 stable/… canonical -
gnome-characters 3.28.2 101 stable/… canonical -
gnome-logs 3.28.2 37 stable/… canonical -
gnome-system-monitor 3.26.0 45 stable/… canonical -
and then remove them with for example
snap remove gnome-system-monitor
And then install regular package with for example
sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
Some deb-packages could be installed into the system as dependencies of other packages . For example gnome-system-monitor
is a dependency of the following packages:
$ apt-cache rdepends gnome-system-monitor
gnome-system-monitor
Reverse Depends:
gnome-core
vanilla-gnome-desktop
ubuntu-unity-desktop
ubuntu-budgie-desktop
gnome-applets
|compiz-gnome
cinnamon-desktop-environment
$ aptitude why gnome-system-monitor
i xinit Recommends gnome-terminal | xterm | x-session-manager | x-windo
w-manager | x-terminal-emulator
p compiz Provides x-window-manager
p compiz Depends compiz-gnome
p compiz-gnome Recommends gnome-system-monitor | mate-system-monitor
see corresponding man-pages for the syntax of used commands (man apt-cache
and man aptitude
).
edited Jul 17 '18 at 8:43
answered Jun 27 '18 at 20:58
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This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
add a comment |
1
This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
1
1
This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
This is very helpful, but why do they package two versions of the same (label) application rather than just one?
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:31
add a comment |
That's simple, one of the apps is of the tradition package manager(.deb extension) and another is of the snappy package. The tradition apps are faster in the opening, the snappy apps are slow but they provide users better control over permissions. Snap is a new format thus it still has some issues like some snap app doesn't follow your theme, slow loading, etc but at the same time, it is better than apt in providing updates.
If I create a deb package for Ubuntu 18.04 then that package will work only for 18.04 not even for 18.10. I also have to make a deb package for all versions of Ubuntu.
Snaps are not ready to replace deb packages and many people don't even want to use snap packages at all so there are both versions in store traditional as well as the snap packages.
This is what Vlc says for having 2 versions of the app on the store.
VLC for Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions is packaged using snapcraft. This allows us to distribute latest and greatest VLC versions directly to end users, with security and critical bug fixes, full codec and optical media support.
If you wish to install the traditional deb package, it is available as usual via APT, with all security and critical bug fixes. However, there will be no major VLC version updates until the next Ubuntu release.
add a comment |
That's simple, one of the apps is of the tradition package manager(.deb extension) and another is of the snappy package. The tradition apps are faster in the opening, the snappy apps are slow but they provide users better control over permissions. Snap is a new format thus it still has some issues like some snap app doesn't follow your theme, slow loading, etc but at the same time, it is better than apt in providing updates.
If I create a deb package for Ubuntu 18.04 then that package will work only for 18.04 not even for 18.10. I also have to make a deb package for all versions of Ubuntu.
Snaps are not ready to replace deb packages and many people don't even want to use snap packages at all so there are both versions in store traditional as well as the snap packages.
This is what Vlc says for having 2 versions of the app on the store.
VLC for Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions is packaged using snapcraft. This allows us to distribute latest and greatest VLC versions directly to end users, with security and critical bug fixes, full codec and optical media support.
If you wish to install the traditional deb package, it is available as usual via APT, with all security and critical bug fixes. However, there will be no major VLC version updates until the next Ubuntu release.
add a comment |
That's simple, one of the apps is of the tradition package manager(.deb extension) and another is of the snappy package. The tradition apps are faster in the opening, the snappy apps are slow but they provide users better control over permissions. Snap is a new format thus it still has some issues like some snap app doesn't follow your theme, slow loading, etc but at the same time, it is better than apt in providing updates.
If I create a deb package for Ubuntu 18.04 then that package will work only for 18.04 not even for 18.10. I also have to make a deb package for all versions of Ubuntu.
Snaps are not ready to replace deb packages and many people don't even want to use snap packages at all so there are both versions in store traditional as well as the snap packages.
This is what Vlc says for having 2 versions of the app on the store.
VLC for Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions is packaged using snapcraft. This allows us to distribute latest and greatest VLC versions directly to end users, with security and critical bug fixes, full codec and optical media support.
If you wish to install the traditional deb package, it is available as usual via APT, with all security and critical bug fixes. However, there will be no major VLC version updates until the next Ubuntu release.
That's simple, one of the apps is of the tradition package manager(.deb extension) and another is of the snappy package. The tradition apps are faster in the opening, the snappy apps are slow but they provide users better control over permissions. Snap is a new format thus it still has some issues like some snap app doesn't follow your theme, slow loading, etc but at the same time, it is better than apt in providing updates.
If I create a deb package for Ubuntu 18.04 then that package will work only for 18.04 not even for 18.10. I also have to make a deb package for all versions of Ubuntu.
Snaps are not ready to replace deb packages and many people don't even want to use snap packages at all so there are both versions in store traditional as well as the snap packages.
This is what Vlc says for having 2 versions of the app on the store.
VLC for Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions is packaged using snapcraft. This allows us to distribute latest and greatest VLC versions directly to end users, with security and critical bug fixes, full codec and optical media support.
If you wish to install the traditional deb package, it is available as usual via APT, with all security and critical bug fixes. However, there will be no major VLC version updates until the next Ubuntu release.
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You should be able to remove the snap one use the traditional one without any issues.
– pomsky
Jun 27 '18 at 13:09
Could you clarify what Ubuntu version you use? Is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Jun 27 '18 at 13:10
1
Possible duplicate of Why have Canonical installed core Gnome apps as Snaps by default?
– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 3:58
6
@muru Thank you for the suggestion, but It is not a duplicate of that other question because mine asks why two version of the same application are installed.
– jordy
Jun 28 '18 at 8:36
2
Well, if you didn't, somebody did. You can start a VM or check the manifest here: releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.manifest, but
gnome-system-monitor
is not installed by default via apt. Really, please, show us proof that it's installed by default.– muru
Jun 28 '18 at 9:26