Did CPM support custom hardware using device drivers?
MS DOS Ver 1.0 did not have OS support for device drivers. DOS ver2 added support for device drivers in the config.sys file during boot with the "DEVICE=[path][filename][parameters]".
- Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
- Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
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MS DOS Ver 1.0 did not have OS support for device drivers. DOS ver2 added support for device drivers in the config.sys file during boot with the "DEVICE=[path][filename][parameters]".
- Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
- Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
ms-dos software-development cp-m
You could have custom device drivers in CP/M, but you'd have to recompile CP/M to use them (an approach similar to many other systems at that time). Not sure if that was the kind of "support" you had in mind.
– dirkt
14 hours ago
Your question sounds a bit as if you assumed that MS-DOS implemented everything like CP/M - No, it actually didn't - The user-visible concepts were somewhat aligned, like 8+3 filenames and a loadable command processor. MS-DOS did not implement a BIOS, but expected that to be supplied by the firmware. Actually, I think there were more differences than similarities.
– tofro
10 hours ago
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@tofro The CP/M BIOS, BDOS and Console Command Processor corresponded to the MS-DOS filesIO.SYS,MSDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM(or the PC-DOS filesIBMIO.SYS,IBMDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM). Although there was another layer of system calls below the OS, still called the BIOS, MS-DOS was also available for clones without a PC BIOS, and came with a differentIO.SYS. Windows 95 changedMSDOS.SYSinto a text configuration file.
– Davislor
5 hours ago
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MS DOS Ver 1.0 did not have OS support for device drivers. DOS ver2 added support for device drivers in the config.sys file during boot with the "DEVICE=[path][filename][parameters]".
- Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
- Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
ms-dos software-development cp-m
MS DOS Ver 1.0 did not have OS support for device drivers. DOS ver2 added support for device drivers in the config.sys file during boot with the "DEVICE=[path][filename][parameters]".
- Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
- Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
ms-dos software-development cp-m
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You could have custom device drivers in CP/M, but you'd have to recompile CP/M to use them (an approach similar to many other systems at that time). Not sure if that was the kind of "support" you had in mind.
– dirkt
14 hours ago
Your question sounds a bit as if you assumed that MS-DOS implemented everything like CP/M - No, it actually didn't - The user-visible concepts were somewhat aligned, like 8+3 filenames and a loadable command processor. MS-DOS did not implement a BIOS, but expected that to be supplied by the firmware. Actually, I think there were more differences than similarities.
– tofro
10 hours ago
1
@tofro The CP/M BIOS, BDOS and Console Command Processor corresponded to the MS-DOS filesIO.SYS,MSDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM(or the PC-DOS filesIBMIO.SYS,IBMDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM). Although there was another layer of system calls below the OS, still called the BIOS, MS-DOS was also available for clones without a PC BIOS, and came with a differentIO.SYS. Windows 95 changedMSDOS.SYSinto a text configuration file.
– Davislor
5 hours ago
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You could have custom device drivers in CP/M, but you'd have to recompile CP/M to use them (an approach similar to many other systems at that time). Not sure if that was the kind of "support" you had in mind.
– dirkt
14 hours ago
Your question sounds a bit as if you assumed that MS-DOS implemented everything like CP/M - No, it actually didn't - The user-visible concepts were somewhat aligned, like 8+3 filenames and a loadable command processor. MS-DOS did not implement a BIOS, but expected that to be supplied by the firmware. Actually, I think there were more differences than similarities.
– tofro
10 hours ago
1
@tofro The CP/M BIOS, BDOS and Console Command Processor corresponded to the MS-DOS filesIO.SYS,MSDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM(or the PC-DOS filesIBMIO.SYS,IBMDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM). Although there was another layer of system calls below the OS, still called the BIOS, MS-DOS was also available for clones without a PC BIOS, and came with a differentIO.SYS. Windows 95 changedMSDOS.SYSinto a text configuration file.
– Davislor
5 hours ago
You could have custom device drivers in CP/M, but you'd have to recompile CP/M to use them (an approach similar to many other systems at that time). Not sure if that was the kind of "support" you had in mind.
– dirkt
14 hours ago
You could have custom device drivers in CP/M, but you'd have to recompile CP/M to use them (an approach similar to many other systems at that time). Not sure if that was the kind of "support" you had in mind.
– dirkt
14 hours ago
Your question sounds a bit as if you assumed that MS-DOS implemented everything like CP/M - No, it actually didn't - The user-visible concepts were somewhat aligned, like 8+3 filenames and a loadable command processor. MS-DOS did not implement a BIOS, but expected that to be supplied by the firmware. Actually, I think there were more differences than similarities.
– tofro
10 hours ago
Your question sounds a bit as if you assumed that MS-DOS implemented everything like CP/M - No, it actually didn't - The user-visible concepts were somewhat aligned, like 8+3 filenames and a loadable command processor. MS-DOS did not implement a BIOS, but expected that to be supplied by the firmware. Actually, I think there were more differences than similarities.
– tofro
10 hours ago
1
1
@tofro The CP/M BIOS, BDOS and Console Command Processor corresponded to the MS-DOS files
IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM (or the PC-DOS files IBMIO.SYS, IBMDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM). Although there was another layer of system calls below the OS, still called the BIOS, MS-DOS was also available for clones without a PC BIOS, and came with a different IO.SYS. Windows 95 changed MSDOS.SYS into a text configuration file.– Davislor
5 hours ago
@tofro The CP/M BIOS, BDOS and Console Command Processor corresponded to the MS-DOS files
IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM (or the PC-DOS files IBMIO.SYS, IBMDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM). Although there was another layer of system calls below the OS, still called the BIOS, MS-DOS was also available for clones without a PC BIOS, and came with a different IO.SYS. Windows 95 changed MSDOS.SYS into a text configuration file.– Davislor
5 hours ago
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The answer depends on the version.
CP/M 2.2 did not support any loadable device drivers. There simply was no provisioning to do that. Originally, the in-built device drivers were limited to storage, console, and serial drivers. The system vendor could extend the BIOS with new devices, but that was fixed during the system build and nothing was loadable on demand. (Some of the mechanisms described below were, however, back-ported into 2.2 and alike systems like MP/M)
CP/M 3.0 actually did support loadable system extensions (Resident System Extensions, RSX). These extensions were loaded resident into the computer and could extend the BDOS with new calls. A similar, but not identical expansion was GSX, a loadable extension to support graphical devices like terminals and printers, that itself relied on device-specific loadable drivers. These extensions implemented a standardized way of calling specific new vendor-defined system calls.
Some CP/M vendors, notable Amstrad/Sinclair (thus, Locomotive Software), implemented loadable system extensions on top of that - Amstrad/Sinclair CP/M 3.0 implemented a concept of FID (Field Installable Device drivers) that allowed extending the BIOS with support for new devices (hard disks or RAM disks, for example) without touching the original code. CP/M 3.0 for the ZX Spectrum 3 comes with a RAM disk driver as FID in source code, for example, that implements a drive M:.
The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
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Preface: I assume this question focuses on loadable device drivers, where loadable means that drivers where loaded at startup (or later) from separate binaries and linked into the system to offer their services. Further it is assumed the question is about CP/M prior to 1981, the time MS-DOS was introduced, thus CP/M 2.2 and MP/M.
Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
No, CP/M did not have loadable device drivers (*1). All drivers where a part of the BIOS (Assembly) code. DR supplied sample code to customize the BIOS for system builders (Buyers of a non dedicated CP/M licence).
Adding new devices worked much the same way on CP/M and MS-DOS 1.x. In both cases new devices had to fit the existing structure of BIOS calls (17 for CP/M 2.2) (*2). New devices must be compiled into the BIOS (*3)
Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
Loadable drivers where newly added to MS-DOS 2.0. to some degree it was part of the step toward a unixoide system structure for DOS, like adding subdirectories even including a virtual /dev directory for devices.
Except, it never went fully that way. Much was added (including IOCTRL), but device drivers still had to fit for most parts the existing structure, which wasn't always up to task. For the CD-ROM driver this meant that it had to hook itself as a network driver (introduced with DOS 3.1) and present the disk as a remote directory assigned to a drive letter instead of simply a disk.
*1 - There's a 'yes but' part: With GSX CP/M introduced loadable device drivers, much like MS-DOS 2.0, but that's after MS-DOS was created.
*2 - Another 'but': With MP/M and later CP/M 3.0 (CPM-Plus), the Character Device Table was introduced. Here an arbitrary number of character devices could be added by system builders, using 6 character names to identify them. Assignment to the logical devices was done using the DEVICE utility and controlled by according BIOS calls.
So while for block devices system builders had to assign a hard disk number to a new device, they could use sounding names for character devices. The default table size was 12 entries for each (In/Out), enabling limited run time extension within the existing structure.
*3 - It was possible (and done) to add new devices during run time by hooking the BIOS entry table and catching/redirecting calls for a drive. Unlike MS-DOS, CP/M did not provide a TSR functionality, so everything dynamic was up to detailed system knowledge and patching.
CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
2 mins ago
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CPM 2.2, the most widely used and generally the progenitor of MS-DOS, supported only a few predefined devices via its BIOS.
These were:
- console input and output
- a listing device (printer) output
- a punch (presumable paper tape) output
- a reader (also paper tape) input
- various calls to control a mass storage device (floppy disk)
and that was that.
No loadable device drivers, even though there were a few terminate and stay resident style things, I have no references for those.
Generally, memory was so tight on these old machines that nobody wanted to load anything extra.
More info on the BIOS can be found here: CPM 2.2 Alteration Guide
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The answer depends on the version.
CP/M 2.2 did not support any loadable device drivers. There simply was no provisioning to do that. Originally, the in-built device drivers were limited to storage, console, and serial drivers. The system vendor could extend the BIOS with new devices, but that was fixed during the system build and nothing was loadable on demand. (Some of the mechanisms described below were, however, back-ported into 2.2 and alike systems like MP/M)
CP/M 3.0 actually did support loadable system extensions (Resident System Extensions, RSX). These extensions were loaded resident into the computer and could extend the BDOS with new calls. A similar, but not identical expansion was GSX, a loadable extension to support graphical devices like terminals and printers, that itself relied on device-specific loadable drivers. These extensions implemented a standardized way of calling specific new vendor-defined system calls.
Some CP/M vendors, notable Amstrad/Sinclair (thus, Locomotive Software), implemented loadable system extensions on top of that - Amstrad/Sinclair CP/M 3.0 implemented a concept of FID (Field Installable Device drivers) that allowed extending the BIOS with support for new devices (hard disks or RAM disks, for example) without touching the original code. CP/M 3.0 for the ZX Spectrum 3 comes with a RAM disk driver as FID in source code, for example, that implements a drive M:.
The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
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The answer depends on the version.
CP/M 2.2 did not support any loadable device drivers. There simply was no provisioning to do that. Originally, the in-built device drivers were limited to storage, console, and serial drivers. The system vendor could extend the BIOS with new devices, but that was fixed during the system build and nothing was loadable on demand. (Some of the mechanisms described below were, however, back-ported into 2.2 and alike systems like MP/M)
CP/M 3.0 actually did support loadable system extensions (Resident System Extensions, RSX). These extensions were loaded resident into the computer and could extend the BDOS with new calls. A similar, but not identical expansion was GSX, a loadable extension to support graphical devices like terminals and printers, that itself relied on device-specific loadable drivers. These extensions implemented a standardized way of calling specific new vendor-defined system calls.
Some CP/M vendors, notable Amstrad/Sinclair (thus, Locomotive Software), implemented loadable system extensions on top of that - Amstrad/Sinclair CP/M 3.0 implemented a concept of FID (Field Installable Device drivers) that allowed extending the BIOS with support for new devices (hard disks or RAM disks, for example) without touching the original code. CP/M 3.0 for the ZX Spectrum 3 comes with a RAM disk driver as FID in source code, for example, that implements a drive M:.
The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
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The answer depends on the version.
CP/M 2.2 did not support any loadable device drivers. There simply was no provisioning to do that. Originally, the in-built device drivers were limited to storage, console, and serial drivers. The system vendor could extend the BIOS with new devices, but that was fixed during the system build and nothing was loadable on demand. (Some of the mechanisms described below were, however, back-ported into 2.2 and alike systems like MP/M)
CP/M 3.0 actually did support loadable system extensions (Resident System Extensions, RSX). These extensions were loaded resident into the computer and could extend the BDOS with new calls. A similar, but not identical expansion was GSX, a loadable extension to support graphical devices like terminals and printers, that itself relied on device-specific loadable drivers. These extensions implemented a standardized way of calling specific new vendor-defined system calls.
Some CP/M vendors, notable Amstrad/Sinclair (thus, Locomotive Software), implemented loadable system extensions on top of that - Amstrad/Sinclair CP/M 3.0 implemented a concept of FID (Field Installable Device drivers) that allowed extending the BIOS with support for new devices (hard disks or RAM disks, for example) without touching the original code. CP/M 3.0 for the ZX Spectrum 3 comes with a RAM disk driver as FID in source code, for example, that implements a drive M:.
The answer depends on the version.
CP/M 2.2 did not support any loadable device drivers. There simply was no provisioning to do that. Originally, the in-built device drivers were limited to storage, console, and serial drivers. The system vendor could extend the BIOS with new devices, but that was fixed during the system build and nothing was loadable on demand. (Some of the mechanisms described below were, however, back-ported into 2.2 and alike systems like MP/M)
CP/M 3.0 actually did support loadable system extensions (Resident System Extensions, RSX). These extensions were loaded resident into the computer and could extend the BDOS with new calls. A similar, but not identical expansion was GSX, a loadable extension to support graphical devices like terminals and printers, that itself relied on device-specific loadable drivers. These extensions implemented a standardized way of calling specific new vendor-defined system calls.
Some CP/M vendors, notable Amstrad/Sinclair (thus, Locomotive Software), implemented loadable system extensions on top of that - Amstrad/Sinclair CP/M 3.0 implemented a concept of FID (Field Installable Device drivers) that allowed extending the BIOS with support for new devices (hard disks or RAM disks, for example) without touching the original code. CP/M 3.0 for the ZX Spectrum 3 comes with a RAM disk driver as FID in source code, for example, that implements a drive M:.
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The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
add a comment |
The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
The GSX drivers are PRL files upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cbasic.svg
– Polluks
9 hours ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Given the lack of memory protection, it's not really true that things were not loadable on demand. One could very easily overwrite parts of the loaded operating system with new code to extend it - that may not have been widely known and common until the MS-DOS era of terminate and stay resident programs, but it was definitely possible and probably done by a few. What was missing were hooks in standard places to make linking easy. Though even those weren't entirely unheard in software of the era, for example Wordstar had a manual listing routines in the binary offered for patching.
– Chris Stratton
1 hour ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
Drats, I forgot about the RSX part :)) - Then again, CP/M 3.0 came way after DOS 1.0, didn't it?
– Raffzahn
1 min ago
add a comment |
Preface: I assume this question focuses on loadable device drivers, where loadable means that drivers where loaded at startup (or later) from separate binaries and linked into the system to offer their services. Further it is assumed the question is about CP/M prior to 1981, the time MS-DOS was introduced, thus CP/M 2.2 and MP/M.
Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
No, CP/M did not have loadable device drivers (*1). All drivers where a part of the BIOS (Assembly) code. DR supplied sample code to customize the BIOS for system builders (Buyers of a non dedicated CP/M licence).
Adding new devices worked much the same way on CP/M and MS-DOS 1.x. In both cases new devices had to fit the existing structure of BIOS calls (17 for CP/M 2.2) (*2). New devices must be compiled into the BIOS (*3)
Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
Loadable drivers where newly added to MS-DOS 2.0. to some degree it was part of the step toward a unixoide system structure for DOS, like adding subdirectories even including a virtual /dev directory for devices.
Except, it never went fully that way. Much was added (including IOCTRL), but device drivers still had to fit for most parts the existing structure, which wasn't always up to task. For the CD-ROM driver this meant that it had to hook itself as a network driver (introduced with DOS 3.1) and present the disk as a remote directory assigned to a drive letter instead of simply a disk.
*1 - There's a 'yes but' part: With GSX CP/M introduced loadable device drivers, much like MS-DOS 2.0, but that's after MS-DOS was created.
*2 - Another 'but': With MP/M and later CP/M 3.0 (CPM-Plus), the Character Device Table was introduced. Here an arbitrary number of character devices could be added by system builders, using 6 character names to identify them. Assignment to the logical devices was done using the DEVICE utility and controlled by according BIOS calls.
So while for block devices system builders had to assign a hard disk number to a new device, they could use sounding names for character devices. The default table size was 12 entries for each (In/Out), enabling limited run time extension within the existing structure.
*3 - It was possible (and done) to add new devices during run time by hooking the BIOS entry table and catching/redirecting calls for a drive. Unlike MS-DOS, CP/M did not provide a TSR functionality, so everything dynamic was up to detailed system knowledge and patching.
CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
2 mins ago
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Preface: I assume this question focuses on loadable device drivers, where loadable means that drivers where loaded at startup (or later) from separate binaries and linked into the system to offer their services. Further it is assumed the question is about CP/M prior to 1981, the time MS-DOS was introduced, thus CP/M 2.2 and MP/M.
Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
No, CP/M did not have loadable device drivers (*1). All drivers where a part of the BIOS (Assembly) code. DR supplied sample code to customize the BIOS for system builders (Buyers of a non dedicated CP/M licence).
Adding new devices worked much the same way on CP/M and MS-DOS 1.x. In both cases new devices had to fit the existing structure of BIOS calls (17 for CP/M 2.2) (*2). New devices must be compiled into the BIOS (*3)
Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
Loadable drivers where newly added to MS-DOS 2.0. to some degree it was part of the step toward a unixoide system structure for DOS, like adding subdirectories even including a virtual /dev directory for devices.
Except, it never went fully that way. Much was added (including IOCTRL), but device drivers still had to fit for most parts the existing structure, which wasn't always up to task. For the CD-ROM driver this meant that it had to hook itself as a network driver (introduced with DOS 3.1) and present the disk as a remote directory assigned to a drive letter instead of simply a disk.
*1 - There's a 'yes but' part: With GSX CP/M introduced loadable device drivers, much like MS-DOS 2.0, but that's after MS-DOS was created.
*2 - Another 'but': With MP/M and later CP/M 3.0 (CPM-Plus), the Character Device Table was introduced. Here an arbitrary number of character devices could be added by system builders, using 6 character names to identify them. Assignment to the logical devices was done using the DEVICE utility and controlled by according BIOS calls.
So while for block devices system builders had to assign a hard disk number to a new device, they could use sounding names for character devices. The default table size was 12 entries for each (In/Out), enabling limited run time extension within the existing structure.
*3 - It was possible (and done) to add new devices during run time by hooking the BIOS entry table and catching/redirecting calls for a drive. Unlike MS-DOS, CP/M did not provide a TSR functionality, so everything dynamic was up to detailed system knowledge and patching.
CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
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Preface: I assume this question focuses on loadable device drivers, where loadable means that drivers where loaded at startup (or later) from separate binaries and linked into the system to offer their services. Further it is assumed the question is about CP/M prior to 1981, the time MS-DOS was introduced, thus CP/M 2.2 and MP/M.
Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
No, CP/M did not have loadable device drivers (*1). All drivers where a part of the BIOS (Assembly) code. DR supplied sample code to customize the BIOS for system builders (Buyers of a non dedicated CP/M licence).
Adding new devices worked much the same way on CP/M and MS-DOS 1.x. In both cases new devices had to fit the existing structure of BIOS calls (17 for CP/M 2.2) (*2). New devices must be compiled into the BIOS (*3)
Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
Loadable drivers where newly added to MS-DOS 2.0. to some degree it was part of the step toward a unixoide system structure for DOS, like adding subdirectories even including a virtual /dev directory for devices.
Except, it never went fully that way. Much was added (including IOCTRL), but device drivers still had to fit for most parts the existing structure, which wasn't always up to task. For the CD-ROM driver this meant that it had to hook itself as a network driver (introduced with DOS 3.1) and present the disk as a remote directory assigned to a drive letter instead of simply a disk.
*1 - There's a 'yes but' part: With GSX CP/M introduced loadable device drivers, much like MS-DOS 2.0, but that's after MS-DOS was created.
*2 - Another 'but': With MP/M and later CP/M 3.0 (CPM-Plus), the Character Device Table was introduced. Here an arbitrary number of character devices could be added by system builders, using 6 character names to identify them. Assignment to the logical devices was done using the DEVICE utility and controlled by according BIOS calls.
So while for block devices system builders had to assign a hard disk number to a new device, they could use sounding names for character devices. The default table size was 12 entries for each (In/Out), enabling limited run time extension within the existing structure.
*3 - It was possible (and done) to add new devices during run time by hooking the BIOS entry table and catching/redirecting calls for a drive. Unlike MS-DOS, CP/M did not provide a TSR functionality, so everything dynamic was up to detailed system knowledge and patching.
Preface: I assume this question focuses on loadable device drivers, where loadable means that drivers where loaded at startup (or later) from separate binaries and linked into the system to offer their services. Further it is assumed the question is about CP/M prior to 1981, the time MS-DOS was introduced, thus CP/M 2.2 and MP/M.
Did CPM have OS support for device drivers?
No, CP/M did not have loadable device drivers (*1). All drivers where a part of the BIOS (Assembly) code. DR supplied sample code to customize the BIOS for system builders (Buyers of a non dedicated CP/M licence).
Adding new devices worked much the same way on CP/M and MS-DOS 1.x. In both cases new devices had to fit the existing structure of BIOS calls (17 for CP/M 2.2) (*2). New devices must be compiled into the BIOS (*3)
Did DOS ver1 leave device drivers out, or was DOS v2 device support a new advancement over CPM?
Loadable drivers where newly added to MS-DOS 2.0. to some degree it was part of the step toward a unixoide system structure for DOS, like adding subdirectories even including a virtual /dev directory for devices.
Except, it never went fully that way. Much was added (including IOCTRL), but device drivers still had to fit for most parts the existing structure, which wasn't always up to task. For the CD-ROM driver this meant that it had to hook itself as a network driver (introduced with DOS 3.1) and present the disk as a remote directory assigned to a drive letter instead of simply a disk.
*1 - There's a 'yes but' part: With GSX CP/M introduced loadable device drivers, much like MS-DOS 2.0, but that's after MS-DOS was created.
*2 - Another 'but': With MP/M and later CP/M 3.0 (CPM-Plus), the Character Device Table was introduced. Here an arbitrary number of character devices could be added by system builders, using 6 character names to identify them. Assignment to the logical devices was done using the DEVICE utility and controlled by according BIOS calls.
So while for block devices system builders had to assign a hard disk number to a new device, they could use sounding names for character devices. The default table size was 12 entries for each (In/Out), enabling limited run time extension within the existing structure.
*3 - It was possible (and done) to add new devices during run time by hooking the BIOS entry table and catching/redirecting calls for a drive. Unlike MS-DOS, CP/M did not provide a TSR functionality, so everything dynamic was up to detailed system knowledge and patching.
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CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
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CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
2 mins ago
CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
CP/M Plus uses a 16-bit word to hold character device assignments, so wouldn't be able to support more than 16 character devices at a time. There are some comments in the source code suggesting that four are reserved for intended future functionality, leaving the 12 table entries.
– john_e
10 hours ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
2 mins ago
@john_e interesting. I only remembered that the character device table itself was null terminated, thus of arbitrary length.
– Raffzahn
2 mins ago
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CPM 2.2, the most widely used and generally the progenitor of MS-DOS, supported only a few predefined devices via its BIOS.
These were:
- console input and output
- a listing device (printer) output
- a punch (presumable paper tape) output
- a reader (also paper tape) input
- various calls to control a mass storage device (floppy disk)
and that was that.
No loadable device drivers, even though there were a few terminate and stay resident style things, I have no references for those.
Generally, memory was so tight on these old machines that nobody wanted to load anything extra.
More info on the BIOS can be found here: CPM 2.2 Alteration Guide
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CPM 2.2, the most widely used and generally the progenitor of MS-DOS, supported only a few predefined devices via its BIOS.
These were:
- console input and output
- a listing device (printer) output
- a punch (presumable paper tape) output
- a reader (also paper tape) input
- various calls to control a mass storage device (floppy disk)
and that was that.
No loadable device drivers, even though there were a few terminate and stay resident style things, I have no references for those.
Generally, memory was so tight on these old machines that nobody wanted to load anything extra.
More info on the BIOS can be found here: CPM 2.2 Alteration Guide
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CPM 2.2, the most widely used and generally the progenitor of MS-DOS, supported only a few predefined devices via its BIOS.
These were:
- console input and output
- a listing device (printer) output
- a punch (presumable paper tape) output
- a reader (also paper tape) input
- various calls to control a mass storage device (floppy disk)
and that was that.
No loadable device drivers, even though there were a few terminate and stay resident style things, I have no references for those.
Generally, memory was so tight on these old machines that nobody wanted to load anything extra.
More info on the BIOS can be found here: CPM 2.2 Alteration Guide
CPM 2.2, the most widely used and generally the progenitor of MS-DOS, supported only a few predefined devices via its BIOS.
These were:
- console input and output
- a listing device (printer) output
- a punch (presumable paper tape) output
- a reader (also paper tape) input
- various calls to control a mass storage device (floppy disk)
and that was that.
No loadable device drivers, even though there were a few terminate and stay resident style things, I have no references for those.
Generally, memory was so tight on these old machines that nobody wanted to load anything extra.
More info on the BIOS can be found here: CPM 2.2 Alteration Guide
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You could have custom device drivers in CP/M, but you'd have to recompile CP/M to use them (an approach similar to many other systems at that time). Not sure if that was the kind of "support" you had in mind.
– dirkt
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Your question sounds a bit as if you assumed that MS-DOS implemented everything like CP/M - No, it actually didn't - The user-visible concepts were somewhat aligned, like 8+3 filenames and a loadable command processor. MS-DOS did not implement a BIOS, but expected that to be supplied by the firmware. Actually, I think there were more differences than similarities.
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@tofro The CP/M BIOS, BDOS and Console Command Processor corresponded to the MS-DOS files
IO.SYS,MSDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM(or the PC-DOS filesIBMIO.SYS,IBMDOS.SYSandCOMMAND.COM). Although there was another layer of system calls below the OS, still called the BIOS, MS-DOS was also available for clones without a PC BIOS, and came with a differentIO.SYS. Windows 95 changedMSDOS.SYSinto a text configuration file.– Davislor
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