How powerful is the invisibility granted by the Gloom Stalker ranger's Umbral Sight feature?
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The Gloom Stalker ranger's Umbral Sight feature, which is granted when a ranger chooses the Gloom Stalker archetype at level 3, states:
You are also adept at evading creatures that rely on darkvision. While
in darkness, you are invisible to any creature that relies on
darkvision to see you in that darkness.
Source: Xanathar's Guide to Everything, p. 42
I read this as saying that as long as the ranger remains in darkness, the ranger remains indefinitely invisible to all creatures that would otherwise be able to see the ranger with darkvision. Even attacking or casting a spell, which normally causes an invisibility effect to end early, would not cause it to end in this situation. A Gloom Stalker ranger could attack repeatedly from melee range, without ever moving to a different spot, and still remain unseen. Only a creature with a special sense such as truesight or blindsight would be able to see the ranger, as long as the ranger remains in darkness.
Is this interpretation correct?
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The Gloom Stalker ranger's Umbral Sight feature, which is granted when a ranger chooses the Gloom Stalker archetype at level 3, states:
You are also adept at evading creatures that rely on darkvision. While
in darkness, you are invisible to any creature that relies on
darkvision to see you in that darkness.
Source: Xanathar's Guide to Everything, p. 42
I read this as saying that as long as the ranger remains in darkness, the ranger remains indefinitely invisible to all creatures that would otherwise be able to see the ranger with darkvision. Even attacking or casting a spell, which normally causes an invisibility effect to end early, would not cause it to end in this situation. A Gloom Stalker ranger could attack repeatedly from melee range, without ever moving to a different spot, and still remain unseen. Only a creature with a special sense such as truesight or blindsight would be able to see the ranger, as long as the ranger remains in darkness.
Is this interpretation correct?
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Related: Can a Gloom Stalker Ranger choose to be seen in darkness?
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– V2Blast
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note: a Warlock with Devil's Sight would also be able to see you, since he doesn't have darkvision, but rather "can see normally in darkness".
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The Gloom Stalker ranger's Umbral Sight feature, which is granted when a ranger chooses the Gloom Stalker archetype at level 3, states:
You are also adept at evading creatures that rely on darkvision. While
in darkness, you are invisible to any creature that relies on
darkvision to see you in that darkness.
Source: Xanathar's Guide to Everything, p. 42
I read this as saying that as long as the ranger remains in darkness, the ranger remains indefinitely invisible to all creatures that would otherwise be able to see the ranger with darkvision. Even attacking or casting a spell, which normally causes an invisibility effect to end early, would not cause it to end in this situation. A Gloom Stalker ranger could attack repeatedly from melee range, without ever moving to a different spot, and still remain unseen. Only a creature with a special sense such as truesight or blindsight would be able to see the ranger, as long as the ranger remains in darkness.
Is this interpretation correct?
dnd-5e class-feature ranger vision-and-light invisibility
edited Mar 29 at 23:16
V2Blast
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asked Mar 29 at 22:29
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The Gloom Stalker ranger's Umbral Sight feature, which is granted when a ranger chooses the Gloom Stalker archetype at level 3, states:
You are also adept at evading creatures that rely on darkvision. While
in darkness, you are invisible to any creature that relies on
darkvision to see you in that darkness.
Source: Xanathar's Guide to Everything, p. 42
I read this as saying that as long as the ranger remains in darkness, the ranger remains indefinitely invisible to all creatures that would otherwise be able to see the ranger with darkvision. Even attacking or casting a spell, which normally causes an invisibility effect to end early, would not cause it to end in this situation. A Gloom Stalker ranger could attack repeatedly from melee range, without ever moving to a different spot, and still remain unseen. Only a creature with a special sense such as truesight or blindsight would be able to see the ranger, as long as the ranger remains in darkness.
Is this interpretation correct?
dnd-5e class-feature ranger vision-and-light invisibility
dnd-5e class-feature ranger vision-and-light invisibility
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mdricheymdrichey
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V2Blast
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V2Blast
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asked Mar 29 at 22:29
mdricheymdrichey
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mdricheymdrichey
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asked Mar 29 at 22:29
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Related: Can a Gloom Stalker Ranger choose to be seen in darkness?
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– V2Blast
Mar 29 at 23:01
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note: a Warlock with Devil's Sight would also be able to see you, since he doesn't have darkvision, but rather "can see normally in darkness".
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– V2Blast
Mar 29 at 23:01
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note: a Warlock with Devil's Sight would also be able to see you, since he doesn't have darkvision, but rather "can see normally in darkness".
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– V2Blast
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Related: Can a Gloom Stalker Ranger choose to be seen in darkness?
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note: a Warlock with Devil's Sight would also be able to see you, since he doesn't have darkvision, but rather "can see normally in darkness".
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– PixelMaster
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note: a Warlock with Devil's Sight would also be able to see you, since he doesn't have darkvision, but rather "can see normally in darkness".
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Your interpretation is correct.
As the feature description states, you are invisible while in darkness to any creature that is only able to see you thanks to its darkvision. It doesn't have the restrictions of the invisibility spell, only its own (previously stated) restriction. And as you note, you can attack from within 5 feet of an enemy without disadvantage, since the "Ranged Attacks in Close Combat" specifies that the enemy must be able to see you (and not be incapacitated) in order for it to cause you to have disadvantage when attacking from within 5 feet of it.
Certain other special senses may allow the creature to see you without relying on darkvision, as you have noted.
(Note that being invisible doesn't automatically make you hidden, so creatures in combat still know where you are unless the DM determines otherwise or you take the Hide action. It does, however, allow you to take the Hide action anywhere that you're invisible to enemies looking for you, i.e when you're in darkness and the enemy would require darkvision to see you.)
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
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Your interpretation is correct.
As the feature description states, you are invisible while in darkness to any creature that is only able to see you thanks to its darkvision. It doesn't have the restrictions of the invisibility spell, only its own (previously stated) restriction. And as you note, you can attack from within 5 feet of an enemy without disadvantage, since the "Ranged Attacks in Close Combat" specifies that the enemy must be able to see you (and not be incapacitated) in order for it to cause you to have disadvantage when attacking from within 5 feet of it.
Certain other special senses may allow the creature to see you without relying on darkvision, as you have noted.
(Note that being invisible doesn't automatically make you hidden, so creatures in combat still know where you are unless the DM determines otherwise or you take the Hide action. It does, however, allow you to take the Hide action anywhere that you're invisible to enemies looking for you, i.e when you're in darkness and the enemy would require darkvision to see you.)
answered Mar 29 at 23:08
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
Mar 30 at 1:48
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
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– V2Blast
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Your interpretation is correct.
As the feature description states, you are invisible while in darkness to any creature that is only able to see you thanks to its darkvision. It doesn't have the restrictions of the invisibility spell, only its own (previously stated) restriction. And as you note, you can attack from within 5 feet of an enemy without disadvantage, since the "Ranged Attacks in Close Combat" specifies that the enemy must be able to see you (and not be incapacitated) in order for it to cause you to have disadvantage when attacking from within 5 feet of it.
Certain other special senses may allow the creature to see you without relying on darkvision, as you have noted.
(Note that being invisible doesn't automatically make you hidden, so creatures in combat still know where you are unless the DM determines otherwise or you take the Hide action. It does, however, allow you to take the Hide action anywhere that you're invisible to enemies looking for you, i.e when you're in darkness and the enemy would require darkvision to see you.)
answered Mar 29 at 23:08
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
Mar 30 at 1:48
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
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– V2Blast
2 days ago
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Your interpretation is correct.
As the feature description states, you are invisible while in darkness to any creature that is only able to see you thanks to its darkvision. It doesn't have the restrictions of the invisibility spell, only its own (previously stated) restriction. And as you note, you can attack from within 5 feet of an enemy without disadvantage, since the "Ranged Attacks in Close Combat" specifies that the enemy must be able to see you (and not be incapacitated) in order for it to cause you to have disadvantage when attacking from within 5 feet of it.
Certain other special senses may allow the creature to see you without relying on darkvision, as you have noted.
(Note that being invisible doesn't automatically make you hidden, so creatures in combat still know where you are unless the DM determines otherwise or you take the Hide action. It does, however, allow you to take the Hide action anywhere that you're invisible to enemies looking for you, i.e when you're in darkness and the enemy would require darkvision to see you.)
answered Mar 29 at 23:08
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Your interpretation is correct.
As the feature description states, you are invisible while in darkness to any creature that is only able to see you thanks to its darkvision. It doesn't have the restrictions of the invisibility spell, only its own (previously stated) restriction. And as you note, you can attack from within 5 feet of an enemy without disadvantage, since the "Ranged Attacks in Close Combat" specifies that the enemy must be able to see you (and not be incapacitated) in order for it to cause you to have disadvantage when attacking from within 5 feet of it.
Certain other special senses may allow the creature to see you without relying on darkvision, as you have noted.
(Note that being invisible doesn't automatically make you hidden, so creatures in combat still know where you are unless the DM determines otherwise or you take the Hide action. It does, however, allow you to take the Hide action anywhere that you're invisible to enemies looking for you, i.e when you're in darkness and the enemy would require darkvision to see you.)
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
Mar 30 at 1:48
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
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– V2Blast
2 days ago
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
Mar 30 at 1:48
4
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
2 days ago
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
Mar 30 at 1:48
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you should add that you still give away your location when you attack
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– Vylix
Mar 30 at 1:48
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4
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
2 days ago
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@Vylix: Since you're not hidden unless you take the Hide action (which being invisible does let you do anywhere that you're invisible to those looking for you), your location is "given away" even before attacking.
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– V2Blast
2 days ago
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note: a Warlock with Devil's Sight would also be able to see you, since he doesn't have darkvision, but rather "can see normally in darkness".
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– PixelMaster
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