When minimized lxpanel's 2nd level selection is unselectable [on hold]
On Lubuntu 18.04-1 using LXDE default setup initially.
Displaying the panel on left works fine for selecting a VPN Connection under Connections lxpanel.
When I set minimize in Advanced tab, subsequent attempts to select the 2nd level item from an lxpanel fails with the panel tree/vector collapsing as the cursor transitions to the selectable item which is in this case a VPN Connection entry.
Specific dialog is using the nework manager to activate a VPN connection from the list of such connections, i.e.:
Select connections icon
Select VPN Connections -> list appears
Attempt to select item from list -> poof, entire lxpanel vector collapses.
This sequence works fine if minimize panel when not in use on the Advanced tab is not checked.
This raises a philosophical question for me about statefulness of desktop implementations. Should implementations of connected dialog entities (panels in this case) only respond to cursor movement/transition or should the user be able to alternatively set a flag / environmental var to demand sustained presentation of the subsequent panel/list (upon selection of the antecedent) until an entry is selected or an escape action is initiated.
I poked around LXDE and lxpanel stuff for a couple hours and found no flags that could allow the user to configure a change to the mouse transition trigger behavior.
I'd love pointers to discussions of this type of design trade-off,
but more importantly I'd like to change the lxpanel-to-lxpanel transition which is failing in the above instance. I need the screen realestate that the minimize provides.
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On Lubuntu 18.04-1 using LXDE default setup initially.
Displaying the panel on left works fine for selecting a VPN Connection under Connections lxpanel.
When I set minimize in Advanced tab, subsequent attempts to select the 2nd level item from an lxpanel fails with the panel tree/vector collapsing as the cursor transitions to the selectable item which is in this case a VPN Connection entry.
Specific dialog is using the nework manager to activate a VPN connection from the list of such connections, i.e.:
Select connections icon
Select VPN Connections -> list appears
Attempt to select item from list -> poof, entire lxpanel vector collapses.
This sequence works fine if minimize panel when not in use on the Advanced tab is not checked.
This raises a philosophical question for me about statefulness of desktop implementations. Should implementations of connected dialog entities (panels in this case) only respond to cursor movement/transition or should the user be able to alternatively set a flag / environmental var to demand sustained presentation of the subsequent panel/list (upon selection of the antecedent) until an entry is selected or an escape action is initiated.
I poked around LXDE and lxpanel stuff for a couple hours and found no flags that could allow the user to configure a change to the mouse transition trigger behavior.
I'd love pointers to discussions of this type of design trade-off,
but more importantly I'd like to change the lxpanel-to-lxpanel transition which is failing in the above instance. I need the screen realestate that the minimize provides.
lubuntu lxde lxpanel
asked Jan 5 at 0:04
Le SnelsonLe Snelson
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On Lubuntu 18.04-1 using LXDE default setup initially.
Displaying the panel on left works fine for selecting a VPN Connection under Connections lxpanel.
When I set minimize in Advanced tab, subsequent attempts to select the 2nd level item from an lxpanel fails with the panel tree/vector collapsing as the cursor transitions to the selectable item which is in this case a VPN Connection entry.
Specific dialog is using the nework manager to activate a VPN connection from the list of such connections, i.e.:
Select connections icon
Select VPN Connections -> list appears
Attempt to select item from list -> poof, entire lxpanel vector collapses.
This sequence works fine if minimize panel when not in use on the Advanced tab is not checked.
This raises a philosophical question for me about statefulness of desktop implementations. Should implementations of connected dialog entities (panels in this case) only respond to cursor movement/transition or should the user be able to alternatively set a flag / environmental var to demand sustained presentation of the subsequent panel/list (upon selection of the antecedent) until an entry is selected or an escape action is initiated.
I poked around LXDE and lxpanel stuff for a couple hours and found no flags that could allow the user to configure a change to the mouse transition trigger behavior.
I'd love pointers to discussions of this type of design trade-off,
but more importantly I'd like to change the lxpanel-to-lxpanel transition which is failing in the above instance. I need the screen realestate that the minimize provides.
lubuntu lxde lxpanel
asked Jan 5 at 0:04
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On Lubuntu 18.04-1 using LXDE default setup initially.
Displaying the panel on left works fine for selecting a VPN Connection under Connections lxpanel.
When I set minimize in Advanced tab, subsequent attempts to select the 2nd level item from an lxpanel fails with the panel tree/vector collapsing as the cursor transitions to the selectable item which is in this case a VPN Connection entry.
Specific dialog is using the nework manager to activate a VPN connection from the list of such connections, i.e.:
Select connections icon
Select VPN Connections -> list appears
Attempt to select item from list -> poof, entire lxpanel vector collapses.
This sequence works fine if minimize panel when not in use on the Advanced tab is not checked.
This raises a philosophical question for me about statefulness of desktop implementations. Should implementations of connected dialog entities (panels in this case) only respond to cursor movement/transition or should the user be able to alternatively set a flag / environmental var to demand sustained presentation of the subsequent panel/list (upon selection of the antecedent) until an entry is selected or an escape action is initiated.
I poked around LXDE and lxpanel stuff for a couple hours and found no flags that could allow the user to configure a change to the mouse transition trigger behavior.
I'd love pointers to discussions of this type of design trade-off,
but more importantly I'd like to change the lxpanel-to-lxpanel transition which is failing in the above instance. I need the screen realestate that the minimize provides.
lubuntu lxde lxpanel
lubuntu lxde lxpanel
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I asked the Lubuntu Release Manager about this issue (I'm well connected, I know, but I help the Lubuntu team with some of their infrastructure so...), and they indicated this is a known bug already.
However, there is also known that LXDE's team more or less doesn't provide good fixes in a timely manner for LXDE bugs, and that has driven them to move to LXQt for 18.10 and further.
There isn't currently a fix currently stated by their teams at the moment for this issue, nor is there a known workaround. However, it is confirmed that this is a currently unfixed bug.
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
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Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
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I asked the Lubuntu Release Manager about this issue (I'm well connected, I know, but I help the Lubuntu team with some of their infrastructure so...), and they indicated this is a known bug already.
However, there is also known that LXDE's team more or less doesn't provide good fixes in a timely manner for LXDE bugs, and that has driven them to move to LXQt for 18.10 and further.
There isn't currently a fix currently stated by their teams at the moment for this issue, nor is there a known workaround. However, it is confirmed that this is a currently unfixed bug.
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
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I asked the Lubuntu Release Manager about this issue (I'm well connected, I know, but I help the Lubuntu team with some of their infrastructure so...), and they indicated this is a known bug already.
However, there is also known that LXDE's team more or less doesn't provide good fixes in a timely manner for LXDE bugs, and that has driven them to move to LXQt for 18.10 and further.
There isn't currently a fix currently stated by their teams at the moment for this issue, nor is there a known workaround. However, it is confirmed that this is a currently unfixed bug.
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
add a comment |
I asked the Lubuntu Release Manager about this issue (I'm well connected, I know, but I help the Lubuntu team with some of their infrastructure so...), and they indicated this is a known bug already.
However, there is also known that LXDE's team more or less doesn't provide good fixes in a timely manner for LXDE bugs, and that has driven them to move to LXQt for 18.10 and further.
There isn't currently a fix currently stated by their teams at the moment for this issue, nor is there a known workaround. However, it is confirmed that this is a currently unfixed bug.
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
I asked the Lubuntu Release Manager about this issue (I'm well connected, I know, but I help the Lubuntu team with some of their infrastructure so...), and they indicated this is a known bug already.
However, there is also known that LXDE's team more or less doesn't provide good fixes in a timely manner for LXDE bugs, and that has driven them to move to LXQt for 18.10 and further.
There isn't currently a fix currently stated by their teams at the moment for this issue, nor is there a known workaround. However, it is confirmed that this is a currently unfixed bug.
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
answered Jan 5 at 20:05
Thomas Ward♦Thomas Ward
43.6k23120173
43.6k23120173
Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
add a comment |
Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
Thanks so much for the prompt response on both issues. Now I need to evaluate the difference in "weight" between the Gtk vs Qt libraries and related changes in applications. Care to comment on that as well?
– Le Snelson
Jan 6 at 1:10
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
@LeSnelson not with any experience, no. It's a little heavier than LXDE from what I've heard, but a bit prettier and a bit nicer, though I've not used either enough to give you anything other than what i've heard as 'vague rumor' and just unsubstantiated claims from users
– Thomas Ward♦
2 days ago
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