What does “number f**king ten” mean?
I was watching "Casualties of War" today.
One of the characters, a soldier, interrogates a suspected VC (Viet-Cong) old man by asking him "Are you VC? Number fucking ten?"
Is "number fucking 10" some kind of military slang, or maybe is it some mnemonic way to ask something in Vietnamese?
slang cinema
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I was watching "Casualties of War" today.
One of the characters, a soldier, interrogates a suspected VC (Viet-Cong) old man by asking him "Are you VC? Number fucking ten?"
Is "number fucking 10" some kind of military slang, or maybe is it some mnemonic way to ask something in Vietnamese?
slang cinema
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
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asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
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I thought it was because Raining blood from slayer's "Reign in Blood " is track number 10. Now you've ruined it for me.
– Mathijs Segers
Aug 18 '16 at 14:17
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I was watching "Casualties of War" today.
One of the characters, a soldier, interrogates a suspected VC (Viet-Cong) old man by asking him "Are you VC? Number fucking ten?"
Is "number fucking 10" some kind of military slang, or maybe is it some mnemonic way to ask something in Vietnamese?
slang cinema
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
Earthliŋ
230313
asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
MaximGiMaximGi
316412
I was watching "Casualties of War" today.
One of the characters, a soldier, interrogates a suspected VC (Viet-Cong) old man by asking him "Are you VC? Number fucking ten?"
Is "number fucking 10" some kind of military slang, or maybe is it some mnemonic way to ask something in Vietnamese?
slang cinema
slang cinema
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
Earthliŋ
230313
asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
MaximGiMaximGi
316412
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
Earthliŋ
230313
asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
MaximGiMaximGi
316412
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
Earthliŋ
230313
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
Earthliŋ
230313
edited Aug 18 '16 at 13:27
Earthliŋ
230313
230313
asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
MaximGiMaximGi
316412
asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
MaximGiMaximGi
316412
asked Aug 18 '16 at 12:03
MaximGiMaximGi
316412
316412
2
I thought it was because Raining blood from slayer's "Reign in Blood " is track number 10. Now you've ruined it for me.
– Mathijs Segers
Aug 18 '16 at 14:17
add a comment |
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I thought it was because Raining blood from slayer's "Reign in Blood " is track number 10. Now you've ruined it for me.
– Mathijs Segers
Aug 18 '16 at 14:17
2
2
I thought it was because Raining blood from slayer's "Reign in Blood " is track number 10. Now you've ruined it for me.
– Mathijs Segers
Aug 18 '16 at 14:17
I thought it was because Raining blood from slayer's "Reign in Blood " is track number 10. Now you've ruined it for me.
– Mathijs Segers
Aug 18 '16 at 14:17
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A quick online research shows that "number 10" is indeed part of 60s' Vietnam War jargon, meaning "the worst" and being the opposite of "Number 1": "the best"; according to glossaries in Ray's Web Server and Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities of Virginia.
edited Aug 18 '16 at 21:11
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answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:12
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And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
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@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
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I think, in the context given in the question, it means American in a pejorative sense (see @armen-Ծիրունյան's answer), with partial rhyming slang (ten/-can).
The interrogator already thinks the guy is VC, and is using language to try to get him to admit that. If the guy balks at the pejorative term, then that's more of an indication that he sides with the Americans than just simply agreeing to the pejorative term.
This analysis of the "poem" suggests it refers to Americans who raped / made Asian women pregnant:
This glossary also suggests American:
answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
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In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
7
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
add a comment |
The insertion of "f*cking" into the word is an intensifier.
The practice is called "expletive infixation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_infixation
answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
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It is a term used largely in the Vietnam War.
1 is the best, 10 is the worst. As stated above, the obscenity thrown in just intensifies the meaning behind it. Nothing to do with slayer or a poem in 1975 as it was used as a negative term (slur) aimed at the Americans and Australians in the Vietnam war. It pre-dates the 1975 poem (Unless the poet got their inspiration from the Vietnam war).
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A quick online research shows that "number 10" is indeed part of 60s' Vietnam War jargon, meaning "the worst" and being the opposite of "Number 1": "the best"; according to glossaries in Ray's Web Server and Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities of Virginia.
edited Aug 18 '16 at 21:11
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And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
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@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
add a comment |
A quick online research shows that "number 10" is indeed part of 60s' Vietnam War jargon, meaning "the worst" and being the opposite of "Number 1": "the best"; according to glossaries in Ray's Web Server and Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities of Virginia.
edited Aug 18 '16 at 21:11
Christian Læirbag
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answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:12
Armen ԾիրունյանArmen Ծիրունյան
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And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
33
@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
add a comment |
A quick online research shows that "number 10" is indeed part of 60s' Vietnam War jargon, meaning "the worst" and being the opposite of "Number 1": "the best"; according to glossaries in Ray's Web Server and Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities of Virginia.
edited Aug 18 '16 at 21:11
Christian Læirbag
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answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:12
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A quick online research shows that "number 10" is indeed part of 60s' Vietnam War jargon, meaning "the worst" and being the opposite of "Number 1": "the best"; according to glossaries in Ray's Web Server and Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities of Virginia.
edited Aug 18 '16 at 21:11
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answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:12
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And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
33
@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
add a comment |
30
And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
33
@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
30
30
And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
And in case it's not obvious, "fucking" doesn't have any extra meaning here and is just a case of swearing to add emphasis.
– Max Williams
Aug 18 '16 at 12:15
33
33
@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
@MaxWilliams Specifically for a site about language, it is an intensifier.
– GalacticCowboy
Aug 18 '16 at 14:49
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
It's also worth noting that Koreans will still use this terminology today. They've said, "You number 10, G.I." to my dad while he was still in the military (where G.I. is slang for a Soldier, standing for Government Issue)
– Erin L
Aug 19 '16 at 15:39
add a comment |
I think, in the context given in the question, it means American in a pejorative sense (see @armen-Ծիրունյան's answer), with partial rhyming slang (ten/-can).
The interrogator already thinks the guy is VC, and is using language to try to get him to admit that. If the guy balks at the pejorative term, then that's more of an indication that he sides with the Americans than just simply agreeing to the pejorative term.
This analysis of the "poem" suggests it refers to Americans who raped / made Asian women pregnant:
This glossary also suggests American:
answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
3,55412031
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In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
7
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
add a comment |
I think, in the context given in the question, it means American in a pejorative sense (see @armen-Ծիրունյան's answer), with partial rhyming slang (ten/-can).
The interrogator already thinks the guy is VC, and is using language to try to get him to admit that. If the guy balks at the pejorative term, then that's more of an indication that he sides with the Americans than just simply agreeing to the pejorative term.
This analysis of the "poem" suggests it refers to Americans who raped / made Asian women pregnant:
This glossary also suggests American:
answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
3,55412031
4
In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
7
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
add a comment |
I think, in the context given in the question, it means American in a pejorative sense (see @armen-Ծիրունյան's answer), with partial rhyming slang (ten/-can).
The interrogator already thinks the guy is VC, and is using language to try to get him to admit that. If the guy balks at the pejorative term, then that's more of an indication that he sides with the Americans than just simply agreeing to the pejorative term.
This analysis of the "poem" suggests it refers to Americans who raped / made Asian women pregnant:
This glossary also suggests American:
answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
3,55412031
I think, in the context given in the question, it means American in a pejorative sense (see @armen-Ծիրունյան's answer), with partial rhyming slang (ten/-can).
The interrogator already thinks the guy is VC, and is using language to try to get him to admit that. If the guy balks at the pejorative term, then that's more of an indication that he sides with the Americans than just simply agreeing to the pejorative term.
This analysis of the "poem" suggests it refers to Americans who raped / made Asian women pregnant:
This glossary also suggests American:
answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
3,55412031
edited Aug 18 '16 at 15:52
answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
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answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
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answered Aug 18 '16 at 12:20
Peter K.Peter K.
3,55412031
3,55412031
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In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
7
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
add a comment |
4
In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
7
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
4
4
In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
In the OP's question, it's being applied to someone suspected of being VC, so not likely an American. The common American phrase "number one" came to mean "good/best" in Vietnamese English dialect; "number 10" is the necessary contrastive to mean "bad/worst".
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 13:57
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
@RussellBorogove On the contrary, I think it's perfectly correct: He's asking whether the person supports the VC or Americans, which makes perfect sense (to me) in the context.
– Peter K.
Aug 18 '16 at 13:58
7
7
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
If you're a supporter of Americans, you don't use a pejorative term for them, which "number 10" clearly is in "Number fucking ten cheap charlie GI cocksucker". Likewise a soldier interrogating a suspected VC, being either American or South Vietnamese, doesn't associate "number 10" with Americans.
– Russell Borogove
Aug 18 '16 at 14:05
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The insertion of "f*cking" into the word is an intensifier.
The practice is called "expletive infixation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_infixation
answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
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The insertion of "f*cking" into the word is an intensifier.
The practice is called "expletive infixation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_infixation
answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
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The insertion of "f*cking" into the word is an intensifier.
The practice is called "expletive infixation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_infixation
answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
1233
The insertion of "f*cking" into the word is an intensifier.
The practice is called "expletive infixation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_infixation
answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
1233
answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
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answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
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answered Aug 23 '16 at 18:07
AnnAnn
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It is a term used largely in the Vietnam War.
1 is the best, 10 is the worst. As stated above, the obscenity thrown in just intensifies the meaning behind it. Nothing to do with slayer or a poem in 1975 as it was used as a negative term (slur) aimed at the Americans and Australians in the Vietnam war. It pre-dates the 1975 poem (Unless the poet got their inspiration from the Vietnam war).
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It is a term used largely in the Vietnam War.
1 is the best, 10 is the worst. As stated above, the obscenity thrown in just intensifies the meaning behind it. Nothing to do with slayer or a poem in 1975 as it was used as a negative term (slur) aimed at the Americans and Australians in the Vietnam war. It pre-dates the 1975 poem (Unless the poet got their inspiration from the Vietnam war).
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It is a term used largely in the Vietnam War.
1 is the best, 10 is the worst. As stated above, the obscenity thrown in just intensifies the meaning behind it. Nothing to do with slayer or a poem in 1975 as it was used as a negative term (slur) aimed at the Americans and Australians in the Vietnam war. It pre-dates the 1975 poem (Unless the poet got their inspiration from the Vietnam war).
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It is a term used largely in the Vietnam War.
1 is the best, 10 is the worst. As stated above, the obscenity thrown in just intensifies the meaning behind it. Nothing to do with slayer or a poem in 1975 as it was used as a negative term (slur) aimed at the Americans and Australians in the Vietnam war. It pre-dates the 1975 poem (Unless the poet got their inspiration from the Vietnam war).
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I thought it was because Raining blood from slayer's "Reign in Blood " is track number 10. Now you've ruined it for me.
– Mathijs Segers
Aug 18 '16 at 14:17