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  1. He said with a smile as if he were talking about an old friend.


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  2. He said with a smile as if he had been talking about an old friend.



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They are both ways of expressing something that is counterfactual: who or what he is speaking about is not an old friend. It could be a stranger, an enemy, or even a comfortable pair of old shoes, say. He is speaking of the subject as if speaking about an old friend.



as if he were... uses the subjunctive form of the verb BE, and as if he had been... uses a back-shifted tense (past perfect of BE).



P.S. Consider the following. Assume as a contextual fact that "She" has never been to this bar before:




She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she had been coming to this bar for years.



She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she were a regular customer.




The phrase "as if she had been coming to this bar for years" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would predate the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.



The phrase "as if she were a regular" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would be contemporaneous with the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.






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They are both ways of expressing something that is counterfactual: who or what he is speaking about is not an old friend. It could be a stranger, an enemy, or even a comfortable pair of old shoes, say. He is speaking of the subject as if speaking about an old friend.



as if he were... uses the subjunctive form of the verb BE, and as if he had been... uses a back-shifted tense (past perfect of BE).



P.S. Consider the following. Assume as a contextual fact that "She" has never been to this bar before:




She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she had been coming to this bar for years.



She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she were a regular customer.




The phrase "as if she had been coming to this bar for years" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would predate the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.



The phrase "as if she were a regular" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would be contemporaneous with the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.






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They are both ways of expressing something that is counterfactual: who or what he is speaking about is not an old friend. It could be a stranger, an enemy, or even a comfortable pair of old shoes, say. He is speaking of the subject as if speaking about an old friend.



as if he were... uses the subjunctive form of the verb BE, and as if he had been... uses a back-shifted tense (past perfect of BE).



P.S. Consider the following. Assume as a contextual fact that "She" has never been to this bar before:




She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she had been coming to this bar for years.



She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she were a regular customer.




The phrase "as if she had been coming to this bar for years" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would predate the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.



The phrase "as if she were a regular" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would be contemporaneous with the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.






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  • I do not know what you mean.

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  • If the sentence 1 is counterfactual, it should use 'had been', because it happened in the past.

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They are both ways of expressing something that is counterfactual: who or what he is speaking about is not an old friend. It could be a stranger, an enemy, or even a comfortable pair of old shoes, say. He is speaking of the subject as if speaking about an old friend.



as if he were... uses the subjunctive form of the verb BE, and as if he had been... uses a back-shifted tense (past perfect of BE).



P.S. Consider the following. Assume as a contextual fact that "She" has never been to this bar before:




She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she had been coming to this bar for years.



She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she were a regular customer.




The phrase "as if she had been coming to this bar for years" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would predate the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.



The phrase "as if she were a regular" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would be contemporaneous with the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.






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They are both ways of expressing something that is counterfactual: who or what he is speaking about is not an old friend. It could be a stranger, an enemy, or even a comfortable pair of old shoes, say. He is speaking of the subject as if speaking about an old friend.



as if he were... uses the subjunctive form of the verb BE, and as if he had been... uses a back-shifted tense (past perfect of BE).



P.S. Consider the following. Assume as a contextual fact that "She" has never been to this bar before:




She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she had been coming to this bar for years.



She walked up to the bar and greeted the man tending bar as if she were a regular customer.




The phrase "as if she had been coming to this bar for years" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would predate the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.



The phrase "as if she were a regular" refers to a counterfactual condition which, if it were true, would be contemporaneous with the action of walking up to the bar and greeting the bartender.







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  • Can you help me analysis their meanings?

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  • I'm afraid that I cannot, not if you did not understand the opening paragraph.

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  • Can you change two sentences to direct references?

    – Y. zeng
    yesterday











  • I do not know what you mean.

    – TRomano
    yesterday











  • If the sentence 1 is counterfactual, it should use 'had been', because it happened in the past.

    – Y. zeng
    yesterday



















  • Can you help me analysis their meanings?

    – Y. zeng
    yesterday











  • I'm afraid that I cannot, not if you did not understand the opening paragraph.

    – TRomano
    yesterday











  • Can you change two sentences to direct references?

    – Y. zeng
    yesterday











  • I do not know what you mean.

    – TRomano
    yesterday











  • If the sentence 1 is counterfactual, it should use 'had been', because it happened in the past.

    – Y. zeng
    yesterday

















Can you help me analysis their meanings?

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Can you help me analysis their meanings?

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I'm afraid that I cannot, not if you did not understand the opening paragraph.

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I'm afraid that I cannot, not if you did not understand the opening paragraph.

– TRomano
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Can you change two sentences to direct references?

– Y. zeng
yesterday





Can you change two sentences to direct references?

– Y. zeng
yesterday













I do not know what you mean.

– TRomano
yesterday





I do not know what you mean.

– TRomano
yesterday













If the sentence 1 is counterfactual, it should use 'had been', because it happened in the past.

– Y. zeng
yesterday





If the sentence 1 is counterfactual, it should use 'had been', because it happened in the past.

– Y. zeng
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