In some parts of America, do people commonly use a flap after /n/, e.g. /ˈwɪn.t̬ɚ/?





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I noticed that, in some American dialect (maybe in the South of America), people may use "flap T" after "n". For example, "/ˈwɪn.t̬ɚ/" source



Other example, "ninety" /ˈnaɪn.t̬i/Source



So, my question is, in some parts of America, do people there COMMONLY use flap T after n?










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  • I am not sure about the pronunciation but one thing you'll find in almost every language, especially English is that there is always an exception to a rule. So, as @michael_timofeev says, you might want to change 'always' to something else.
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    This appears to be a duplicate of english.stackexchange.com/questions/110741/…
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    A quick link from the other SE article to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#North_America) offers clues as to locale. Basically it's a North American English thing, but can also be found elsewhere.
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    @Nonnal Very relevant and possibly a duplicate: Does the /d/ in the 'nd' combo tend to be unreleased?
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  • Good contribution to the discussion, @Mitch, even if we did have to wait 2.5 years for it. :-D
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I noticed that, in some American dialect (maybe in the South of America), people may use "flap T" after "n". For example, "/ˈwɪn.t̬ɚ/" source



Other example, "ninety" /ˈnaɪn.t̬i/Source



So, my question is, in some parts of America, do people there COMMONLY use flap T after n?










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  • I am not sure about the pronunciation but one thing you'll find in almost every language, especially English is that there is always an exception to a rule. So, as @michael_timofeev says, you might want to change 'always' to something else.
    – Durga Swaroop
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:13








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    This appears to be a duplicate of english.stackexchange.com/questions/110741/…
    – Nonnal
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:27






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    A quick link from the other SE article to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#North_America) offers clues as to locale. Basically it's a North American English thing, but can also be found elsewhere.
    – Nonnal
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:34






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    @Nonnal Very relevant and possibly a duplicate: Does the /d/ in the 'nd' combo tend to be unreleased?
    – Mitch
    May 11 at 15:19












  • Good contribution to the discussion, @Mitch, even if we did have to wait 2.5 years for it. :-D
    – Nonnal
    May 14 at 6:59













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I noticed that, in some American dialect (maybe in the South of America), people may use "flap T" after "n". For example, "/ˈwɪn.t̬ɚ/" source



Other example, "ninety" /ˈnaɪn.t̬i/Source



So, my question is, in some parts of America, do people there COMMONLY use flap T after n?










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I noticed that, in some American dialect (maybe in the South of America), people may use "flap T" after "n". For example, "/ˈwɪn.t̬ɚ/" source



Other example, "ninety" /ˈnaɪn.t̬i/Source



So, my question is, in some parts of America, do people there COMMONLY use flap T after n?







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  • I am not sure about the pronunciation but one thing you'll find in almost every language, especially English is that there is always an exception to a rule. So, as @michael_timofeev says, you might want to change 'always' to something else.
    – Durga Swaroop
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:13








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    This appears to be a duplicate of english.stackexchange.com/questions/110741/…
    – Nonnal
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:27






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    A quick link from the other SE article to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#North_America) offers clues as to locale. Basically it's a North American English thing, but can also be found elsewhere.
    – Nonnal
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:34






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    @Nonnal Very relevant and possibly a duplicate: Does the /d/ in the 'nd' combo tend to be unreleased?
    – Mitch
    May 11 at 15:19












  • Good contribution to the discussion, @Mitch, even if we did have to wait 2.5 years for it. :-D
    – Nonnal
    May 14 at 6:59


















  • I am not sure about the pronunciation but one thing you'll find in almost every language, especially English is that there is always an exception to a rule. So, as @michael_timofeev says, you might want to change 'always' to something else.
    – Durga Swaroop
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:13








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    This appears to be a duplicate of english.stackexchange.com/questions/110741/…
    – Nonnal
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:27






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    A quick link from the other SE article to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#North_America) offers clues as to locale. Basically it's a North American English thing, but can also be found elsewhere.
    – Nonnal
    Nov 3 '15 at 5:34






  • 1




    @Nonnal Very relevant and possibly a duplicate: Does the /d/ in the 'nd' combo tend to be unreleased?
    – Mitch
    May 11 at 15:19












  • Good contribution to the discussion, @Mitch, even if we did have to wait 2.5 years for it. :-D
    – Nonnal
    May 14 at 6:59
















I am not sure about the pronunciation but one thing you'll find in almost every language, especially English is that there is always an exception to a rule. So, as @michael_timofeev says, you might want to change 'always' to something else.
– Durga Swaroop
Nov 3 '15 at 5:13






I am not sure about the pronunciation but one thing you'll find in almost every language, especially English is that there is always an exception to a rule. So, as @michael_timofeev says, you might want to change 'always' to something else.
– Durga Swaroop
Nov 3 '15 at 5:13






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This appears to be a duplicate of english.stackexchange.com/questions/110741/…
– Nonnal
Nov 3 '15 at 5:27




This appears to be a duplicate of english.stackexchange.com/questions/110741/…
– Nonnal
Nov 3 '15 at 5:27




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A quick link from the other SE article to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#North_America) offers clues as to locale. Basically it's a North American English thing, but can also be found elsewhere.
– Nonnal
Nov 3 '15 at 5:34




A quick link from the other SE article to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#North_America) offers clues as to locale. Basically it's a North American English thing, but can also be found elsewhere.
– Nonnal
Nov 3 '15 at 5:34




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@Nonnal Very relevant and possibly a duplicate: Does the /d/ in the 'nd' combo tend to be unreleased?
– Mitch
May 11 at 15:19






@Nonnal Very relevant and possibly a duplicate: Does the /d/ in the 'nd' combo tend to be unreleased?
– Mitch
May 11 at 15:19














Good contribution to the discussion, @Mitch, even if we did have to wait 2.5 years for it. :-D
– Nonnal
May 14 at 6:59




Good contribution to the discussion, @Mitch, even if we did have to wait 2.5 years for it. :-D
– Nonnal
May 14 at 6:59










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Phonetic literature that I have seen typically describes this as a nasal/nasalized tap/flap rather than a nasal consonant followed by a tap/flap.



The frequency of this pronunciation varies by dialect, but I am not aware of any dialect where [nt] with non-flapped t has been completely eliminated. In most dialects, [nt] is a possible realization of /nt/ even before an unstressed syllable.






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  • It's practically impossible to pronounce a flap immediately after a nasal stop, so I agree with this.
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Yes. That 'iz' correct. Consonants may 'be-kome' accentuated and derivative in their common verbal and parochial usage. Like, 'Where'av you been?' or, adding a hard z - "What iz zat?". The contraction and consonant alteration can almost become another language, but they are not written that way, except to cite accents.






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    Phonetic literature that I have seen typically describes this as a nasal/nasalized tap/flap rather than a nasal consonant followed by a tap/flap.



    The frequency of this pronunciation varies by dialect, but I am not aware of any dialect where [nt] with non-flapped t has been completely eliminated. In most dialects, [nt] is a possible realization of /nt/ even before an unstressed syllable.






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    Phonetic literature that I have seen typically describes this as a nasal/nasalized tap/flap rather than a nasal consonant followed by a tap/flap.



    The frequency of this pronunciation varies by dialect, but I am not aware of any dialect where [nt] with non-flapped t has been completely eliminated. In most dialects, [nt] is a possible realization of /nt/ even before an unstressed syllable.






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    Phonetic literature that I have seen typically describes this as a nasal/nasalized tap/flap rather than a nasal consonant followed by a tap/flap.



    The frequency of this pronunciation varies by dialect, but I am not aware of any dialect where [nt] with non-flapped t has been completely eliminated. In most dialects, [nt] is a possible realization of /nt/ even before an unstressed syllable.






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    Phonetic literature that I have seen typically describes this as a nasal/nasalized tap/flap rather than a nasal consonant followed by a tap/flap.



    The frequency of this pronunciation varies by dialect, but I am not aware of any dialect where [nt] with non-flapped t has been completely eliminated. In most dialects, [nt] is a possible realization of /nt/ even before an unstressed syllable.







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    • It's practically impossible to pronounce a flap immediately after a nasal stop, so I agree with this.
      – jlovegren
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    • It's practically impossible to pronounce a flap immediately after a nasal stop, so I agree with this.
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    It's practically impossible to pronounce a flap immediately after a nasal stop, so I agree with this.
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    It's practically impossible to pronounce a flap immediately after a nasal stop, so I agree with this.
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    Yes. That 'iz' correct. Consonants may 'be-kome' accentuated and derivative in their common verbal and parochial usage. Like, 'Where'av you been?' or, adding a hard z - "What iz zat?". The contraction and consonant alteration can almost become another language, but they are not written that way, except to cite accents.






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      Yes. That 'iz' correct. Consonants may 'be-kome' accentuated and derivative in their common verbal and parochial usage. Like, 'Where'av you been?' or, adding a hard z - "What iz zat?". The contraction and consonant alteration can almost become another language, but they are not written that way, except to cite accents.






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        Yes. That 'iz' correct. Consonants may 'be-kome' accentuated and derivative in their common verbal and parochial usage. Like, 'Where'av you been?' or, adding a hard z - "What iz zat?". The contraction and consonant alteration can almost become another language, but they are not written that way, except to cite accents.






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        Yes. That 'iz' correct. Consonants may 'be-kome' accentuated and derivative in their common verbal and parochial usage. Like, 'Where'av you been?' or, adding a hard z - "What iz zat?". The contraction and consonant alteration can almost become another language, but they are not written that way, except to cite accents.







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