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I haven't used Windows for many years, so sorry if some of my question/description doesn't make sense. Recently I got a brand new Dell XPS13 9380 with pre-installed Windows 10. I want to replace the whole system with Ubuntu. When I tried to install from two bootable USBs, one with 16.04 and the other with 18.04. Neither saw the SSD, the only harddrive in the laptop, and ended up asking me how do I wish to partition/install in the thumbdrive-only space. I checked from Win10 and found the SSD has a few partitions, OS, WINRETOOLS, image, EFI, ..., and they are all NTFS and combine to occupy the whole SSD. I resized the OS partition to minimal, left the new space nonallocated (the only format choices are NTFS & exFAT), and repeated and found the SSD space was still not seen. "fdisk -l" showed /dev/loop0~7 and sda1 & 2, which are the thumbdrive itself. All the workaround I found require at least getting the NTFS seen from Ubuntu side, so I can resize/remove it, which I can't do now.



There are a few other things also worried me. The only way I found to boot into BIOS/UEFI interface is through Win10. I need to first boot into Windows and then choose to reboot into UEFI from "advanced startup options," and UEFI doesn't memorize the boot sequence and automatically change it back to Windows first. I am not sure in this case if it's safe to simply wipe the whole SSD clean. Also to boot from USB-contained Ubuntu, the laptop complained about not finding mmx64.efi, which I was able to get around by simply renaming grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi. Finally, I think the SSD is BitLocker encrypted. I don't know much about it, but it seems creating formatting complexity/problem from other articles.



Finally, I thought about taking out the SSD and formating it by other laptops, but it's really not preferred, because this laptop is really new and I don't want to lose warranty this early by opening it myself.



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  • Best to do a full backup of Windows, many users come back and want Windows again as they have one program or game that does not work in Ubuntu. Or if new user, dual boot until sure you only want Ubuntu. Dell requires UEFI update, SSD firmware update & drives changed from RAID or Intel SRT to AHCI. Slightly older model: askubuntu.com/questions/1042414/… & askubuntu.com/questions/1046263/…

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I haven't used Windows for many years, so sorry if some of my question/description doesn't make sense. Recently I got a brand new Dell XPS13 9380 with pre-installed Windows 10. I want to replace the whole system with Ubuntu. When I tried to install from two bootable USBs, one with 16.04 and the other with 18.04. Neither saw the SSD, the only harddrive in the laptop, and ended up asking me how do I wish to partition/install in the thumbdrive-only space. I checked from Win10 and found the SSD has a few partitions, OS, WINRETOOLS, image, EFI, ..., and they are all NTFS and combine to occupy the whole SSD. I resized the OS partition to minimal, left the new space nonallocated (the only format choices are NTFS & exFAT), and repeated and found the SSD space was still not seen. "fdisk -l" showed /dev/loop0~7 and sda1 & 2, which are the thumbdrive itself. All the workaround I found require at least getting the NTFS seen from Ubuntu side, so I can resize/remove it, which I can't do now.



There are a few other things also worried me. The only way I found to boot into BIOS/UEFI interface is through Win10. I need to first boot into Windows and then choose to reboot into UEFI from "advanced startup options," and UEFI doesn't memorize the boot sequence and automatically change it back to Windows first. I am not sure in this case if it's safe to simply wipe the whole SSD clean. Also to boot from USB-contained Ubuntu, the laptop complained about not finding mmx64.efi, which I was able to get around by simply renaming grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi. Finally, I think the SSD is BitLocker encrypted. I don't know much about it, but it seems creating formatting complexity/problem from other articles.



Finally, I thought about taking out the SSD and formating it by other laptops, but it's really not preferred, because this laptop is really new and I don't want to lose warranty this early by opening it myself.



Thanks!




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  • Best to do a full backup of Windows, many users come back and want Windows again as they have one program or game that does not work in Ubuntu. Or if new user, dual boot until sure you only want Ubuntu. Dell requires UEFI update, SSD firmware update & drives changed from RAID or Intel SRT to AHCI. Slightly older model: askubuntu.com/questions/1042414/… & askubuntu.com/questions/1046263/…

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I haven't used Windows for many years, so sorry if some of my question/description doesn't make sense. Recently I got a brand new Dell XPS13 9380 with pre-installed Windows 10. I want to replace the whole system with Ubuntu. When I tried to install from two bootable USBs, one with 16.04 and the other with 18.04. Neither saw the SSD, the only harddrive in the laptop, and ended up asking me how do I wish to partition/install in the thumbdrive-only space. I checked from Win10 and found the SSD has a few partitions, OS, WINRETOOLS, image, EFI, ..., and they are all NTFS and combine to occupy the whole SSD. I resized the OS partition to minimal, left the new space nonallocated (the only format choices are NTFS & exFAT), and repeated and found the SSD space was still not seen. "fdisk -l" showed /dev/loop0~7 and sda1 & 2, which are the thumbdrive itself. All the workaround I found require at least getting the NTFS seen from Ubuntu side, so I can resize/remove it, which I can't do now.



There are a few other things also worried me. The only way I found to boot into BIOS/UEFI interface is through Win10. I need to first boot into Windows and then choose to reboot into UEFI from "advanced startup options," and UEFI doesn't memorize the boot sequence and automatically change it back to Windows first. I am not sure in this case if it's safe to simply wipe the whole SSD clean. Also to boot from USB-contained Ubuntu, the laptop complained about not finding mmx64.efi, which I was able to get around by simply renaming grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi. Finally, I think the SSD is BitLocker encrypted. I don't know much about it, but it seems creating formatting complexity/problem from other articles.



Finally, I thought about taking out the SSD and formating it by other laptops, but it's really not preferred, because this laptop is really new and I don't want to lose warranty this early by opening it myself.



Thanks!




  • Yen-Yung










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I haven't used Windows for many years, so sorry if some of my question/description doesn't make sense. Recently I got a brand new Dell XPS13 9380 with pre-installed Windows 10. I want to replace the whole system with Ubuntu. When I tried to install from two bootable USBs, one with 16.04 and the other with 18.04. Neither saw the SSD, the only harddrive in the laptop, and ended up asking me how do I wish to partition/install in the thumbdrive-only space. I checked from Win10 and found the SSD has a few partitions, OS, WINRETOOLS, image, EFI, ..., and they are all NTFS and combine to occupy the whole SSD. I resized the OS partition to minimal, left the new space nonallocated (the only format choices are NTFS & exFAT), and repeated and found the SSD space was still not seen. "fdisk -l" showed /dev/loop0~7 and sda1 & 2, which are the thumbdrive itself. All the workaround I found require at least getting the NTFS seen from Ubuntu side, so I can resize/remove it, which I can't do now.



There are a few other things also worried me. The only way I found to boot into BIOS/UEFI interface is through Win10. I need to first boot into Windows and then choose to reboot into UEFI from "advanced startup options," and UEFI doesn't memorize the boot sequence and automatically change it back to Windows first. I am not sure in this case if it's safe to simply wipe the whole SSD clean. Also to boot from USB-contained Ubuntu, the laptop complained about not finding mmx64.efi, which I was able to get around by simply renaming grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi. Finally, I think the SSD is BitLocker encrypted. I don't know much about it, but it seems creating formatting complexity/problem from other articles.



Finally, I thought about taking out the SSD and formating it by other laptops, but it's really not preferred, because this laptop is really new and I don't want to lose warranty this early by opening it myself.



Thanks!




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  • Best to do a full backup of Windows, many users come back and want Windows again as they have one program or game that does not work in Ubuntu. Or if new user, dual boot until sure you only want Ubuntu. Dell requires UEFI update, SSD firmware update & drives changed from RAID or Intel SRT to AHCI. Slightly older model: askubuntu.com/questions/1042414/… & askubuntu.com/questions/1046263/…

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  • Best to do a full backup of Windows, many users come back and want Windows again as they have one program or game that does not work in Ubuntu. Or if new user, dual boot until sure you only want Ubuntu. Dell requires UEFI update, SSD firmware update & drives changed from RAID or Intel SRT to AHCI. Slightly older model: askubuntu.com/questions/1042414/… & askubuntu.com/questions/1046263/…

    – oldfred
    Mar 12 at 20:10

















Best to do a full backup of Windows, many users come back and want Windows again as they have one program or game that does not work in Ubuntu. Or if new user, dual boot until sure you only want Ubuntu. Dell requires UEFI update, SSD firmware update & drives changed from RAID or Intel SRT to AHCI. Slightly older model: askubuntu.com/questions/1042414/… & askubuntu.com/questions/1046263/…

– oldfred
Mar 12 at 20:10





Best to do a full backup of Windows, many users come back and want Windows again as they have one program or game that does not work in Ubuntu. Or if new user, dual boot until sure you only want Ubuntu. Dell requires UEFI update, SSD firmware update & drives changed from RAID or Intel SRT to AHCI. Slightly older model: askubuntu.com/questions/1042414/… & askubuntu.com/questions/1046263/…

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I've had the same problem as you with the same laptop. I found that as well as changing grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi I also needed to change the SATA Operation option in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI. I also disabled secure boot in the BIOS but am unsure if that helped.



Also, to access the startup menu and bios easily, you must repeatedly tap the F12 key as the laptop boots as soon as you see the Dell logo. Hope this helps.






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  • Thank you sooooo much!! Your method totally worked! Except I still need to go in to UEFI from Windows. F12 doesn’t work. But the rest all worked for me.

    – Yen-Yung Chang
    Mar 13 at 6:47



















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I am providing my experience here for future readers. I successfully installed Ubuntu 18.10 on a brand new xps 13 9380 (white) using the following steps:




  • Boot into windows and do the following:


    • Setup an Ubuntu bootable USB using the method found here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0

    • Disable BitLocker by going to the following: Control Panel > System Security > BitLocker Drive Encryption and disabling it.



  • Shutdown windows. Power on, and as soon as the lights on the keyboard come on start tapping the F12 key to enter Bios.

  • In the Bios you'll want to change your SATA from Raid to AHCI. Exit and Save. If your computer reboots into windows after this just shut it down.

  • Plug in your bootable Ubuntu USB stick, then turn on the laptop and you should be given an option to boot from it.

  • Once Ubuntu has booted into the desktop mode, double click the 'Install Ubuntu...' icon on the desktop.


From here the options are up to you, but here is what I chose:




  • completely replace the MBR which will replace all partitions. (warning This will REMOVE windows).

  • install 3rd party drivers which will enable SecureBoot. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot


    • after booting you'll be presented with the MokManager, and you'll want to choose the 'Enroll' option and provide a password.




From there the installation should be complete, with system updates to follow once you are logged in. Dell will automatically provide device drivers and bios updates as well!



It's been working great and smooth so far!






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    I've had the same problem as you with the same laptop. I found that as well as changing grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi I also needed to change the SATA Operation option in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI. I also disabled secure boot in the BIOS but am unsure if that helped.



    Also, to access the startup menu and bios easily, you must repeatedly tap the F12 key as the laptop boots as soon as you see the Dell logo. Hope this helps.






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    • Thank you sooooo much!! Your method totally worked! Except I still need to go in to UEFI from Windows. F12 doesn’t work. But the rest all worked for me.

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    I've had the same problem as you with the same laptop. I found that as well as changing grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi I also needed to change the SATA Operation option in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI. I also disabled secure boot in the BIOS but am unsure if that helped.



    Also, to access the startup menu and bios easily, you must repeatedly tap the F12 key as the laptop boots as soon as you see the Dell logo. Hope this helps.






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    I've had the same problem as you with the same laptop. I found that as well as changing grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi I also needed to change the SATA Operation option in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI. I also disabled secure boot in the BIOS but am unsure if that helped.



    Also, to access the startup menu and bios easily, you must repeatedly tap the F12 key as the laptop boots as soon as you see the Dell logo. Hope this helps.






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    I've had the same problem as you with the same laptop. I found that as well as changing grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi I also needed to change the SATA Operation option in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI. I also disabled secure boot in the BIOS but am unsure if that helped.



    Also, to access the startup menu and bios easily, you must repeatedly tap the F12 key as the laptop boots as soon as you see the Dell logo. Hope this helps.







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    • Thank you sooooo much!! Your method totally worked! Except I still need to go in to UEFI from Windows. F12 doesn’t work. But the rest all worked for me.

      – Yen-Yung Chang
      Mar 13 at 6:47



















    • Thank you sooooo much!! Your method totally worked! Except I still need to go in to UEFI from Windows. F12 doesn’t work. But the rest all worked for me.

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    Thank you sooooo much!! Your method totally worked! Except I still need to go in to UEFI from Windows. F12 doesn’t work. But the rest all worked for me.

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    Thank you sooooo much!! Your method totally worked! Except I still need to go in to UEFI from Windows. F12 doesn’t work. But the rest all worked for me.

    – Yen-Yung Chang
    Mar 13 at 6:47













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    I am providing my experience here for future readers. I successfully installed Ubuntu 18.10 on a brand new xps 13 9380 (white) using the following steps:




    • Boot into windows and do the following:


      • Setup an Ubuntu bootable USB using the method found here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0

      • Disable BitLocker by going to the following: Control Panel > System Security > BitLocker Drive Encryption and disabling it.



    • Shutdown windows. Power on, and as soon as the lights on the keyboard come on start tapping the F12 key to enter Bios.

    • In the Bios you'll want to change your SATA from Raid to AHCI. Exit and Save. If your computer reboots into windows after this just shut it down.

    • Plug in your bootable Ubuntu USB stick, then turn on the laptop and you should be given an option to boot from it.

    • Once Ubuntu has booted into the desktop mode, double click the 'Install Ubuntu...' icon on the desktop.


    From here the options are up to you, but here is what I chose:




    • completely replace the MBR which will replace all partitions. (warning This will REMOVE windows).

    • install 3rd party drivers which will enable SecureBoot. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot


      • after booting you'll be presented with the MokManager, and you'll want to choose the 'Enroll' option and provide a password.




    From there the installation should be complete, with system updates to follow once you are logged in. Dell will automatically provide device drivers and bios updates as well!



    It's been working great and smooth so far!






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      I am providing my experience here for future readers. I successfully installed Ubuntu 18.10 on a brand new xps 13 9380 (white) using the following steps:




      • Boot into windows and do the following:


        • Setup an Ubuntu bootable USB using the method found here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0

        • Disable BitLocker by going to the following: Control Panel > System Security > BitLocker Drive Encryption and disabling it.



      • Shutdown windows. Power on, and as soon as the lights on the keyboard come on start tapping the F12 key to enter Bios.

      • In the Bios you'll want to change your SATA from Raid to AHCI. Exit and Save. If your computer reboots into windows after this just shut it down.

      • Plug in your bootable Ubuntu USB stick, then turn on the laptop and you should be given an option to boot from it.

      • Once Ubuntu has booted into the desktop mode, double click the 'Install Ubuntu...' icon on the desktop.


      From here the options are up to you, but here is what I chose:




      • completely replace the MBR which will replace all partitions. (warning This will REMOVE windows).

      • install 3rd party drivers which will enable SecureBoot. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot


        • after booting you'll be presented with the MokManager, and you'll want to choose the 'Enroll' option and provide a password.




      From there the installation should be complete, with system updates to follow once you are logged in. Dell will automatically provide device drivers and bios updates as well!



      It's been working great and smooth so far!






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        I am providing my experience here for future readers. I successfully installed Ubuntu 18.10 on a brand new xps 13 9380 (white) using the following steps:




        • Boot into windows and do the following:


          • Setup an Ubuntu bootable USB using the method found here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0

          • Disable BitLocker by going to the following: Control Panel > System Security > BitLocker Drive Encryption and disabling it.



        • Shutdown windows. Power on, and as soon as the lights on the keyboard come on start tapping the F12 key to enter Bios.

        • In the Bios you'll want to change your SATA from Raid to AHCI. Exit and Save. If your computer reboots into windows after this just shut it down.

        • Plug in your bootable Ubuntu USB stick, then turn on the laptop and you should be given an option to boot from it.

        • Once Ubuntu has booted into the desktop mode, double click the 'Install Ubuntu...' icon on the desktop.


        From here the options are up to you, but here is what I chose:




        • completely replace the MBR which will replace all partitions. (warning This will REMOVE windows).

        • install 3rd party drivers which will enable SecureBoot. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot


          • after booting you'll be presented with the MokManager, and you'll want to choose the 'Enroll' option and provide a password.




        From there the installation should be complete, with system updates to follow once you are logged in. Dell will automatically provide device drivers and bios updates as well!



        It's been working great and smooth so far!






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        I am providing my experience here for future readers. I successfully installed Ubuntu 18.10 on a brand new xps 13 9380 (white) using the following steps:




        • Boot into windows and do the following:


          • Setup an Ubuntu bootable USB using the method found here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0

          • Disable BitLocker by going to the following: Control Panel > System Security > BitLocker Drive Encryption and disabling it.



        • Shutdown windows. Power on, and as soon as the lights on the keyboard come on start tapping the F12 key to enter Bios.

        • In the Bios you'll want to change your SATA from Raid to AHCI. Exit and Save. If your computer reboots into windows after this just shut it down.

        • Plug in your bootable Ubuntu USB stick, then turn on the laptop and you should be given an option to boot from it.

        • Once Ubuntu has booted into the desktop mode, double click the 'Install Ubuntu...' icon on the desktop.


        From here the options are up to you, but here is what I chose:




        • completely replace the MBR which will replace all partitions. (warning This will REMOVE windows).

        • install 3rd party drivers which will enable SecureBoot. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot


          • after booting you'll be presented with the MokManager, and you'll want to choose the 'Enroll' option and provide a password.




        From there the installation should be complete, with system updates to follow once you are logged in. Dell will automatically provide device drivers and bios updates as well!



        It's been working great and smooth so far!







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