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just a short question, since I was told that I am using the word incorrectly, but I don't know how to fix it.



In my dissertation, I am often using "the arising stresses", e.g. in the form of: (1) "The arising stresses are negligible".
I was told that I should rather say
(2) "The stresses arising are negligible", but to me this sounds quite wrong.
I could accept to use it in the context of "arise from", e.g. (3) "The internal stresses arising from external loads are negligible".



Could anyone tell me what is correct and possibly even tell me WHY this is the case. I don't even know what to search for.
A last question: Can I circumvent the problem by using a synonym, e.g. by writing "The existing stresses are negligible."?



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  • With respect to the last paragraph, "existing" isn't a synonym for "arising".

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  • Thanks for the hint. Since the problem arises a few times, I was just giving an example, and in certain cases, it doesn't matter if stresses "emerge from a certain situation", or simply "exist". I could probably even leave it out entirely in some cases, but need to find an appropriate substitution in other situations.

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just a short question, since I was told that I am using the word incorrectly, but I don't know how to fix it.



In my dissertation, I am often using "the arising stresses", e.g. in the form of: (1) "The arising stresses are negligible".
I was told that I should rather say
(2) "The stresses arising are negligible", but to me this sounds quite wrong.
I could accept to use it in the context of "arise from", e.g. (3) "The internal stresses arising from external loads are negligible".



Could anyone tell me what is correct and possibly even tell me WHY this is the case. I don't even know what to search for.
A last question: Can I circumvent the problem by using a synonym, e.g. by writing "The existing stresses are negligible."?



Thx for your help










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  • With respect to the last paragraph, "existing" isn't a synonym for "arising".

    – KillingTime
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  • Thanks for the hint. Since the problem arises a few times, I was just giving an example, and in certain cases, it doesn't matter if stresses "emerge from a certain situation", or simply "exist". I could probably even leave it out entirely in some cases, but need to find an appropriate substitution in other situations.

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just a short question, since I was told that I am using the word incorrectly, but I don't know how to fix it.



In my dissertation, I am often using "the arising stresses", e.g. in the form of: (1) "The arising stresses are negligible".
I was told that I should rather say
(2) "The stresses arising are negligible", but to me this sounds quite wrong.
I could accept to use it in the context of "arise from", e.g. (3) "The internal stresses arising from external loads are negligible".



Could anyone tell me what is correct and possibly even tell me WHY this is the case. I don't even know what to search for.
A last question: Can I circumvent the problem by using a synonym, e.g. by writing "The existing stresses are negligible."?



Thx for your help










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just a short question, since I was told that I am using the word incorrectly, but I don't know how to fix it.



In my dissertation, I am often using "the arising stresses", e.g. in the form of: (1) "The arising stresses are negligible".
I was told that I should rather say
(2) "The stresses arising are negligible", but to me this sounds quite wrong.
I could accept to use it in the context of "arise from", e.g. (3) "The internal stresses arising from external loads are negligible".



Could anyone tell me what is correct and possibly even tell me WHY this is the case. I don't even know what to search for.
A last question: Can I circumvent the problem by using a synonym, e.g. by writing "The existing stresses are negligible."?



Thx for your help







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  • With respect to the last paragraph, "existing" isn't a synonym for "arising".

    – KillingTime
    4 hours ago











  • Thanks for the hint. Since the problem arises a few times, I was just giving an example, and in certain cases, it doesn't matter if stresses "emerge from a certain situation", or simply "exist". I could probably even leave it out entirely in some cases, but need to find an appropriate substitution in other situations.

    – Paul Saturday
    4 hours ago



















  • With respect to the last paragraph, "existing" isn't a synonym for "arising".

    – KillingTime
    4 hours ago











  • Thanks for the hint. Since the problem arises a few times, I was just giving an example, and in certain cases, it doesn't matter if stresses "emerge from a certain situation", or simply "exist". I could probably even leave it out entirely in some cases, but need to find an appropriate substitution in other situations.

    – Paul Saturday
    4 hours ago

















With respect to the last paragraph, "existing" isn't a synonym for "arising".

– KillingTime
4 hours ago





With respect to the last paragraph, "existing" isn't a synonym for "arising".

– KillingTime
4 hours ago













Thanks for the hint. Since the problem arises a few times, I was just giving an example, and in certain cases, it doesn't matter if stresses "emerge from a certain situation", or simply "exist". I could probably even leave it out entirely in some cases, but need to find an appropriate substitution in other situations.

– Paul Saturday
4 hours ago





Thanks for the hint. Since the problem arises a few times, I was just giving an example, and in certain cases, it doesn't matter if stresses "emerge from a certain situation", or simply "exist". I could probably even leave it out entirely in some cases, but need to find an appropriate substitution in other situations.

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The idiom arise from may be helpful: TFD





  • To stand up from a seated or prone position. My teenage son doesn't arise from his bed until one in the afternoon.

  • To move in an upward direction. My heart started beating faster as the helicopter arose from the ground.

  • To emerge from a bleak situation. Thanks to scholarships, I was able to go to a top college and arise from poverty.


  • To result from something. Many issues arose from the passing of that bill.




In your case "the arising stresses" could be as:




"The stress (stresses) arising from ..."




A thesaurus search of arise will yield many possible synonyms.






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    Cambridge Dictionary gives a good specific definition of the verb form, along with many examples (emphasis mine):




    PRESENT PARTICIPLE OF arise FORMAL OR LITERARY



    This explains why there is no common carotid artery on that side, with the internal and external carotid vessels arising directly from the anomalous arch.



    The arachnoid cyst is arising from the middle fossa and compressing the cerebral hemisphere.



    However, it is considerably more than what publishers typically fear as an ad hoc collection of diverse papers arising from a conference.



    Once again, trauma arising in each of the six age categories was insignificantly associated with meaning.



    Small chestnut ocular blotches, and two rather long hairs arising on the surface near these blotches.



    Individual variation in child vocabulary competence might best be understood as arising within a nexus of contextual factors both proximal and distal to the child.




    As you can see, it takes the form of NOUN + VERB + PREPOSITION. (Possibly also with an adverb.)



    Although from seems to be the common preposition that follows it, other prepositions can also be used.





    It's possible for the verb to come first in certain constructions:




    Arising from external loads were negligible stresses.




    However, while not wrong, it sounds slightly strange.





    The most closely synonymous wording I can think of that uses an actual adjective would be:




    The raised stresses are negligible






    Some present participles are used adjectivally:




    The cottage had running water.

    The wind blew the falling leaves.

    She comforted her crying daughter.




    However, other present participles don't work as adjectives:




    ✔ I took pleasure in delighting my children.

    ✘ I had delighting children.




    Most often, we don't use a present participle as an adjective if there is an actual adjective that serves the same purpose:




    ✔ I had delightful children.




    Incidentally, I got the delighting / delightful idea from the ELU question "Can any verb's present and past participles be used as adjectives?"





    To me, arising doesn't sound like a present participle that would normally be used as an adjective.



    If I weren't going to use the normal verb form and was looking for an adjective, and if I didn't want to use raised stresses, I might say the following instead:




    The rising stresses are negligible.




    This sounds more natural, simply because I'm used to hearing about rising tides and rising sea levels.



    However, there is also nothing wrong with using existing as an adjective as you suggest:




    The existing stresses are negligible.




    It depends on if you want to talk about something that exists fully formed or about something that is in the process of forming.





    On the other hand, I can't say with certainty that arising can't be used as an adjective. It seems to exist in a kind of grey area. But at least stylistically, it's probably correct to say that you should try to find some other wording—especially if the person who told you to is somebody you should be listening to.






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      The idiom arise from may be helpful: TFD





      • To stand up from a seated or prone position. My teenage son doesn't arise from his bed until one in the afternoon.

      • To move in an upward direction. My heart started beating faster as the helicopter arose from the ground.

      • To emerge from a bleak situation. Thanks to scholarships, I was able to go to a top college and arise from poverty.


      • To result from something. Many issues arose from the passing of that bill.




      In your case "the arising stresses" could be as:




      "The stress (stresses) arising from ..."




      A thesaurus search of arise will yield many possible synonyms.






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        The idiom arise from may be helpful: TFD





        • To stand up from a seated or prone position. My teenage son doesn't arise from his bed until one in the afternoon.

        • To move in an upward direction. My heart started beating faster as the helicopter arose from the ground.

        • To emerge from a bleak situation. Thanks to scholarships, I was able to go to a top college and arise from poverty.


        • To result from something. Many issues arose from the passing of that bill.




        In your case "the arising stresses" could be as:




        "The stress (stresses) arising from ..."




        A thesaurus search of arise will yield many possible synonyms.






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          The idiom arise from may be helpful: TFD





          • To stand up from a seated or prone position. My teenage son doesn't arise from his bed until one in the afternoon.

          • To move in an upward direction. My heart started beating faster as the helicopter arose from the ground.

          • To emerge from a bleak situation. Thanks to scholarships, I was able to go to a top college and arise from poverty.


          • To result from something. Many issues arose from the passing of that bill.




          In your case "the arising stresses" could be as:




          "The stress (stresses) arising from ..."




          A thesaurus search of arise will yield many possible synonyms.






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          The idiom arise from may be helpful: TFD





          • To stand up from a seated or prone position. My teenage son doesn't arise from his bed until one in the afternoon.

          • To move in an upward direction. My heart started beating faster as the helicopter arose from the ground.

          • To emerge from a bleak situation. Thanks to scholarships, I was able to go to a top college and arise from poverty.


          • To result from something. Many issues arose from the passing of that bill.




          In your case "the arising stresses" could be as:




          "The stress (stresses) arising from ..."




          A thesaurus search of arise will yield many possible synonyms.







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              Cambridge Dictionary gives a good specific definition of the verb form, along with many examples (emphasis mine):




              PRESENT PARTICIPLE OF arise FORMAL OR LITERARY



              This explains why there is no common carotid artery on that side, with the internal and external carotid vessels arising directly from the anomalous arch.



              The arachnoid cyst is arising from the middle fossa and compressing the cerebral hemisphere.



              However, it is considerably more than what publishers typically fear as an ad hoc collection of diverse papers arising from a conference.



              Once again, trauma arising in each of the six age categories was insignificantly associated with meaning.



              Small chestnut ocular blotches, and two rather long hairs arising on the surface near these blotches.



              Individual variation in child vocabulary competence might best be understood as arising within a nexus of contextual factors both proximal and distal to the child.




              As you can see, it takes the form of NOUN + VERB + PREPOSITION. (Possibly also with an adverb.)



              Although from seems to be the common preposition that follows it, other prepositions can also be used.





              It's possible for the verb to come first in certain constructions:




              Arising from external loads were negligible stresses.




              However, while not wrong, it sounds slightly strange.





              The most closely synonymous wording I can think of that uses an actual adjective would be:




              The raised stresses are negligible






              Some present participles are used adjectivally:




              The cottage had running water.

              The wind blew the falling leaves.

              She comforted her crying daughter.




              However, other present participles don't work as adjectives:




              ✔ I took pleasure in delighting my children.

              ✘ I had delighting children.




              Most often, we don't use a present participle as an adjective if there is an actual adjective that serves the same purpose:




              ✔ I had delightful children.




              Incidentally, I got the delighting / delightful idea from the ELU question "Can any verb's present and past participles be used as adjectives?"





              To me, arising doesn't sound like a present participle that would normally be used as an adjective.



              If I weren't going to use the normal verb form and was looking for an adjective, and if I didn't want to use raised stresses, I might say the following instead:




              The rising stresses are negligible.




              This sounds more natural, simply because I'm used to hearing about rising tides and rising sea levels.



              However, there is also nothing wrong with using existing as an adjective as you suggest:




              The existing stresses are negligible.




              It depends on if you want to talk about something that exists fully formed or about something that is in the process of forming.





              On the other hand, I can't say with certainty that arising can't be used as an adjective. It seems to exist in a kind of grey area. But at least stylistically, it's probably correct to say that you should try to find some other wording—especially if the person who told you to is somebody you should be listening to.






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                Cambridge Dictionary gives a good specific definition of the verb form, along with many examples (emphasis mine):




                PRESENT PARTICIPLE OF arise FORMAL OR LITERARY



                This explains why there is no common carotid artery on that side, with the internal and external carotid vessels arising directly from the anomalous arch.



                The arachnoid cyst is arising from the middle fossa and compressing the cerebral hemisphere.



                However, it is considerably more than what publishers typically fear as an ad hoc collection of diverse papers arising from a conference.



                Once again, trauma arising in each of the six age categories was insignificantly associated with meaning.



                Small chestnut ocular blotches, and two rather long hairs arising on the surface near these blotches.



                Individual variation in child vocabulary competence might best be understood as arising within a nexus of contextual factors both proximal and distal to the child.




                As you can see, it takes the form of NOUN + VERB + PREPOSITION. (Possibly also with an adverb.)



                Although from seems to be the common preposition that follows it, other prepositions can also be used.





                It's possible for the verb to come first in certain constructions:




                Arising from external loads were negligible stresses.




                However, while not wrong, it sounds slightly strange.





                The most closely synonymous wording I can think of that uses an actual adjective would be:




                The raised stresses are negligible






                Some present participles are used adjectivally:




                The cottage had running water.

                The wind blew the falling leaves.

                She comforted her crying daughter.




                However, other present participles don't work as adjectives:




                ✔ I took pleasure in delighting my children.

                ✘ I had delighting children.




                Most often, we don't use a present participle as an adjective if there is an actual adjective that serves the same purpose:




                ✔ I had delightful children.




                Incidentally, I got the delighting / delightful idea from the ELU question "Can any verb's present and past participles be used as adjectives?"





                To me, arising doesn't sound like a present participle that would normally be used as an adjective.



                If I weren't going to use the normal verb form and was looking for an adjective, and if I didn't want to use raised stresses, I might say the following instead:




                The rising stresses are negligible.




                This sounds more natural, simply because I'm used to hearing about rising tides and rising sea levels.



                However, there is also nothing wrong with using existing as an adjective as you suggest:




                The existing stresses are negligible.




                It depends on if you want to talk about something that exists fully formed or about something that is in the process of forming.





                On the other hand, I can't say with certainty that arising can't be used as an adjective. It seems to exist in a kind of grey area. But at least stylistically, it's probably correct to say that you should try to find some other wording—especially if the person who told you to is somebody you should be listening to.






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                  Cambridge Dictionary gives a good specific definition of the verb form, along with many examples (emphasis mine):




                  PRESENT PARTICIPLE OF arise FORMAL OR LITERARY



                  This explains why there is no common carotid artery on that side, with the internal and external carotid vessels arising directly from the anomalous arch.



                  The arachnoid cyst is arising from the middle fossa and compressing the cerebral hemisphere.



                  However, it is considerably more than what publishers typically fear as an ad hoc collection of diverse papers arising from a conference.



                  Once again, trauma arising in each of the six age categories was insignificantly associated with meaning.



                  Small chestnut ocular blotches, and two rather long hairs arising on the surface near these blotches.



                  Individual variation in child vocabulary competence might best be understood as arising within a nexus of contextual factors both proximal and distal to the child.




                  As you can see, it takes the form of NOUN + VERB + PREPOSITION. (Possibly also with an adverb.)



                  Although from seems to be the common preposition that follows it, other prepositions can also be used.





                  It's possible for the verb to come first in certain constructions:




                  Arising from external loads were negligible stresses.




                  However, while not wrong, it sounds slightly strange.





                  The most closely synonymous wording I can think of that uses an actual adjective would be:




                  The raised stresses are negligible






                  Some present participles are used adjectivally:




                  The cottage had running water.

                  The wind blew the falling leaves.

                  She comforted her crying daughter.




                  However, other present participles don't work as adjectives:




                  ✔ I took pleasure in delighting my children.

                  ✘ I had delighting children.




                  Most often, we don't use a present participle as an adjective if there is an actual adjective that serves the same purpose:




                  ✔ I had delightful children.




                  Incidentally, I got the delighting / delightful idea from the ELU question "Can any verb's present and past participles be used as adjectives?"





                  To me, arising doesn't sound like a present participle that would normally be used as an adjective.



                  If I weren't going to use the normal verb form and was looking for an adjective, and if I didn't want to use raised stresses, I might say the following instead:




                  The rising stresses are negligible.




                  This sounds more natural, simply because I'm used to hearing about rising tides and rising sea levels.



                  However, there is also nothing wrong with using existing as an adjective as you suggest:




                  The existing stresses are negligible.




                  It depends on if you want to talk about something that exists fully formed or about something that is in the process of forming.





                  On the other hand, I can't say with certainty that arising can't be used as an adjective. It seems to exist in a kind of grey area. But at least stylistically, it's probably correct to say that you should try to find some other wording—especially if the person who told you to is somebody you should be listening to.






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                  Cambridge Dictionary gives a good specific definition of the verb form, along with many examples (emphasis mine):




                  PRESENT PARTICIPLE OF arise FORMAL OR LITERARY



                  This explains why there is no common carotid artery on that side, with the internal and external carotid vessels arising directly from the anomalous arch.



                  The arachnoid cyst is arising from the middle fossa and compressing the cerebral hemisphere.



                  However, it is considerably more than what publishers typically fear as an ad hoc collection of diverse papers arising from a conference.



                  Once again, trauma arising in each of the six age categories was insignificantly associated with meaning.



                  Small chestnut ocular blotches, and two rather long hairs arising on the surface near these blotches.



                  Individual variation in child vocabulary competence might best be understood as arising within a nexus of contextual factors both proximal and distal to the child.




                  As you can see, it takes the form of NOUN + VERB + PREPOSITION. (Possibly also with an adverb.)



                  Although from seems to be the common preposition that follows it, other prepositions can also be used.





                  It's possible for the verb to come first in certain constructions:




                  Arising from external loads were negligible stresses.




                  However, while not wrong, it sounds slightly strange.





                  The most closely synonymous wording I can think of that uses an actual adjective would be:




                  The raised stresses are negligible






                  Some present participles are used adjectivally:




                  The cottage had running water.

                  The wind blew the falling leaves.

                  She comforted her crying daughter.




                  However, other present participles don't work as adjectives:




                  ✔ I took pleasure in delighting my children.

                  ✘ I had delighting children.




                  Most often, we don't use a present participle as an adjective if there is an actual adjective that serves the same purpose:




                  ✔ I had delightful children.




                  Incidentally, I got the delighting / delightful idea from the ELU question "Can any verb's present and past participles be used as adjectives?"





                  To me, arising doesn't sound like a present participle that would normally be used as an adjective.



                  If I weren't going to use the normal verb form and was looking for an adjective, and if I didn't want to use raised stresses, I might say the following instead:




                  The rising stresses are negligible.




                  This sounds more natural, simply because I'm used to hearing about rising tides and rising sea levels.



                  However, there is also nothing wrong with using existing as an adjective as you suggest:




                  The existing stresses are negligible.




                  It depends on if you want to talk about something that exists fully formed or about something that is in the process of forming.





                  On the other hand, I can't say with certainty that arising can't be used as an adjective. It seems to exist in a kind of grey area. But at least stylistically, it's probably correct to say that you should try to find some other wording—especially if the person who told you to is somebody you should be listening to.







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