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As a transcriber, I have seen many ways dots are used in literature —mostly to avoid redundancy. But I have seen dots unspaced from single letters, such as in the phrase "Guess the city: N.. Y..." The answer, of course, is New York, so the number of dots replaces the number of missing letters. Are these ellipsis points? To call them "ellipsis" would be wrong, but is there a literary convention that would allow me to refer to these omissions as "ellipsis?"










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  • They're blanks. As in "fill in the blanks".

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  • Yes, that's their purpose. But I have to write a report and thought there might be a more proper name for these dots. I can call them "dots" or "2 or 4 periods" but don't want to seem the fool that I am for not using the correct term—if there is one..

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  • If there is a more accurate term than just ‘dots’ for this, then I’ve not heard it. ‘Dots representing blanks to be filled in’ if you want to get it all in there, but unless you’re mentioning them completely out of context, ‘dots’ by itself should be perfectly understandable, and I don’t think there is a more specific term.

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As a transcriber, I have seen many ways dots are used in literature —mostly to avoid redundancy. But I have seen dots unspaced from single letters, such as in the phrase "Guess the city: N.. Y..." The answer, of course, is New York, so the number of dots replaces the number of missing letters. Are these ellipsis points? To call them "ellipsis" would be wrong, but is there a literary convention that would allow me to refer to these omissions as "ellipsis?"










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  • Yes, that's their purpose. But I have to write a report and thought there might be a more proper name for these dots. I can call them "dots" or "2 or 4 periods" but don't want to seem the fool that I am for not using the correct term—if there is one..

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  • If there is a more accurate term than just ‘dots’ for this, then I’ve not heard it. ‘Dots representing blanks to be filled in’ if you want to get it all in there, but unless you’re mentioning them completely out of context, ‘dots’ by itself should be perfectly understandable, and I don’t think there is a more specific term.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
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As a transcriber, I have seen many ways dots are used in literature —mostly to avoid redundancy. But I have seen dots unspaced from single letters, such as in the phrase "Guess the city: N.. Y..." The answer, of course, is New York, so the number of dots replaces the number of missing letters. Are these ellipsis points? To call them "ellipsis" would be wrong, but is there a literary convention that would allow me to refer to these omissions as "ellipsis?"










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As a transcriber, I have seen many ways dots are used in literature —mostly to avoid redundancy. But I have seen dots unspaced from single letters, such as in the phrase "Guess the city: N.. Y..." The answer, of course, is New York, so the number of dots replaces the number of missing letters. Are these ellipsis points? To call them "ellipsis" would be wrong, but is there a literary convention that would allow me to refer to these omissions as "ellipsis?"







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  • They're blanks. As in "fill in the blanks".

    – AndyT
    yesterday











  • Yes, that's their purpose. But I have to write a report and thought there might be a more proper name for these dots. I can call them "dots" or "2 or 4 periods" but don't want to seem the fool that I am for not using the correct term—if there is one..

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  • If there is a more accurate term than just ‘dots’ for this, then I’ve not heard it. ‘Dots representing blanks to be filled in’ if you want to get it all in there, but unless you’re mentioning them completely out of context, ‘dots’ by itself should be perfectly understandable, and I don’t think there is a more specific term.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    yesterday



















  • They're blanks. As in "fill in the blanks".

    – AndyT
    yesterday











  • Yes, that's their purpose. But I have to write a report and thought there might be a more proper name for these dots. I can call them "dots" or "2 or 4 periods" but don't want to seem the fool that I am for not using the correct term—if there is one..

    – Dan GERGEN
    yesterday











  • If there is a more accurate term than just ‘dots’ for this, then I’ve not heard it. ‘Dots representing blanks to be filled in’ if you want to get it all in there, but unless you’re mentioning them completely out of context, ‘dots’ by itself should be perfectly understandable, and I don’t think there is a more specific term.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    yesterday

















They're blanks. As in "fill in the blanks".

– AndyT
yesterday





They're blanks. As in "fill in the blanks".

– AndyT
yesterday













Yes, that's their purpose. But I have to write a report and thought there might be a more proper name for these dots. I can call them "dots" or "2 or 4 periods" but don't want to seem the fool that I am for not using the correct term—if there is one..

– Dan GERGEN
yesterday





Yes, that's their purpose. But I have to write a report and thought there might be a more proper name for these dots. I can call them "dots" or "2 or 4 periods" but don't want to seem the fool that I am for not using the correct term—if there is one..

– Dan GERGEN
yesterday













If there is a more accurate term than just ‘dots’ for this, then I’ve not heard it. ‘Dots representing blanks to be filled in’ if you want to get it all in there, but unless you’re mentioning them completely out of context, ‘dots’ by itself should be perfectly understandable, and I don’t think there is a more specific term.

– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday





If there is a more accurate term than just ‘dots’ for this, then I’ve not heard it. ‘Dots representing blanks to be filled in’ if you want to get it all in there, but unless you’re mentioning them completely out of context, ‘dots’ by itself should be perfectly understandable, and I don’t think there is a more specific term.

– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday










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I could find no reference that offered a name when periods are used to indicate missing letters, or that periods should be used to indicate missing letters.



You are correct in thinking that this use of periods is not an ellipsis.



According to wiki - ellipsis:




indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning




The only way I can think to describe the use of periods in "N.. Y..." is to say that the periods represent missing letters.



I did find that multiple em dashes are a convention used to indicate missing letters.



According to "The Punctuation Guide"




Multiple em dashes

Two em dashes can be used to indicate missing portions of a word, whether unknown or intentionally omitted.

Mr. J—— testified that the defendant yelled, “Die, a——,” before pulling the trigger.

From the faded and water-damaged note, we made out only this: “Was ne——y going to m—— K——, but now ——t.”

When an entire word is missing, either two or three em dashes can be used. Whichever length you choose, use it consistently throughout your document. Surrounding punctuation should be placed as usual.

The juvenile defendant, ———, was arraigned yesterday.







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    In many command-lines the period is a wildcard, which is a period or dot that denotes a single character. (It's a kind of regular expression, or a standard to represent a pattern for matching text.)



    I have not seen the usage extend to punctuation generally, perhaps because the period is not a standard way to indicate blanks. Other punctuations are used for similar purposes: an apostrophe denotes the omission of one or more letters in a contraction, asterisks or dashes are common ways to denote missing letters, and I've seen question marks or underscores co-opted for similar use. I'd colloquially describe such a symbol as a letter blank.






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      I could find no reference that offered a name when periods are used to indicate missing letters, or that periods should be used to indicate missing letters.



      You are correct in thinking that this use of periods is not an ellipsis.



      According to wiki - ellipsis:




      indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning




      The only way I can think to describe the use of periods in "N.. Y..." is to say that the periods represent missing letters.



      I did find that multiple em dashes are a convention used to indicate missing letters.



      According to "The Punctuation Guide"




      Multiple em dashes

      Two em dashes can be used to indicate missing portions of a word, whether unknown or intentionally omitted.

      Mr. J—— testified that the defendant yelled, “Die, a——,” before pulling the trigger.

      From the faded and water-damaged note, we made out only this: “Was ne——y going to m—— K——, but now ——t.”

      When an entire word is missing, either two or three em dashes can be used. Whichever length you choose, use it consistently throughout your document. Surrounding punctuation should be placed as usual.

      The juvenile defendant, ———, was arraigned yesterday.







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        I could find no reference that offered a name when periods are used to indicate missing letters, or that periods should be used to indicate missing letters.



        You are correct in thinking that this use of periods is not an ellipsis.



        According to wiki - ellipsis:




        indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning




        The only way I can think to describe the use of periods in "N.. Y..." is to say that the periods represent missing letters.



        I did find that multiple em dashes are a convention used to indicate missing letters.



        According to "The Punctuation Guide"




        Multiple em dashes

        Two em dashes can be used to indicate missing portions of a word, whether unknown or intentionally omitted.

        Mr. J—— testified that the defendant yelled, “Die, a——,” before pulling the trigger.

        From the faded and water-damaged note, we made out only this: “Was ne——y going to m—— K——, but now ——t.”

        When an entire word is missing, either two or three em dashes can be used. Whichever length you choose, use it consistently throughout your document. Surrounding punctuation should be placed as usual.

        The juvenile defendant, ———, was arraigned yesterday.







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          I could find no reference that offered a name when periods are used to indicate missing letters, or that periods should be used to indicate missing letters.



          You are correct in thinking that this use of periods is not an ellipsis.



          According to wiki - ellipsis:




          indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning




          The only way I can think to describe the use of periods in "N.. Y..." is to say that the periods represent missing letters.



          I did find that multiple em dashes are a convention used to indicate missing letters.



          According to "The Punctuation Guide"




          Multiple em dashes

          Two em dashes can be used to indicate missing portions of a word, whether unknown or intentionally omitted.

          Mr. J—— testified that the defendant yelled, “Die, a——,” before pulling the trigger.

          From the faded and water-damaged note, we made out only this: “Was ne——y going to m—— K——, but now ——t.”

          When an entire word is missing, either two or three em dashes can be used. Whichever length you choose, use it consistently throughout your document. Surrounding punctuation should be placed as usual.

          The juvenile defendant, ———, was arraigned yesterday.







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          I could find no reference that offered a name when periods are used to indicate missing letters, or that periods should be used to indicate missing letters.



          You are correct in thinking that this use of periods is not an ellipsis.



          According to wiki - ellipsis:




          indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning




          The only way I can think to describe the use of periods in "N.. Y..." is to say that the periods represent missing letters.



          I did find that multiple em dashes are a convention used to indicate missing letters.



          According to "The Punctuation Guide"




          Multiple em dashes

          Two em dashes can be used to indicate missing portions of a word, whether unknown or intentionally omitted.

          Mr. J—— testified that the defendant yelled, “Die, a——,” before pulling the trigger.

          From the faded and water-damaged note, we made out only this: “Was ne——y going to m—— K——, but now ——t.”

          When an entire word is missing, either two or three em dashes can be used. Whichever length you choose, use it consistently throughout your document. Surrounding punctuation should be placed as usual.

          The juvenile defendant, ———, was arraigned yesterday.








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              In many command-lines the period is a wildcard, which is a period or dot that denotes a single character. (It's a kind of regular expression, or a standard to represent a pattern for matching text.)



              I have not seen the usage extend to punctuation generally, perhaps because the period is not a standard way to indicate blanks. Other punctuations are used for similar purposes: an apostrophe denotes the omission of one or more letters in a contraction, asterisks or dashes are common ways to denote missing letters, and I've seen question marks or underscores co-opted for similar use. I'd colloquially describe such a symbol as a letter blank.






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                In many command-lines the period is a wildcard, which is a period or dot that denotes a single character. (It's a kind of regular expression, or a standard to represent a pattern for matching text.)



                I have not seen the usage extend to punctuation generally, perhaps because the period is not a standard way to indicate blanks. Other punctuations are used for similar purposes: an apostrophe denotes the omission of one or more letters in a contraction, asterisks or dashes are common ways to denote missing letters, and I've seen question marks or underscores co-opted for similar use. I'd colloquially describe such a symbol as a letter blank.






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                  In many command-lines the period is a wildcard, which is a period or dot that denotes a single character. (It's a kind of regular expression, or a standard to represent a pattern for matching text.)



                  I have not seen the usage extend to punctuation generally, perhaps because the period is not a standard way to indicate blanks. Other punctuations are used for similar purposes: an apostrophe denotes the omission of one or more letters in a contraction, asterisks or dashes are common ways to denote missing letters, and I've seen question marks or underscores co-opted for similar use. I'd colloquially describe such a symbol as a letter blank.






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                  In many command-lines the period is a wildcard, which is a period or dot that denotes a single character. (It's a kind of regular expression, or a standard to represent a pattern for matching text.)



                  I have not seen the usage extend to punctuation generally, perhaps because the period is not a standard way to indicate blanks. Other punctuations are used for similar purposes: an apostrophe denotes the omission of one or more letters in a contraction, asterisks or dashes are common ways to denote missing letters, and I've seen question marks or underscores co-opted for similar use. I'd colloquially describe such a symbol as a letter blank.







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