What happens to sewage if there is no river near by?
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I know that in places where there are convenient rivers and streams the tendency is to dump the communities sewage into those waterways so that it is carried away.
But what about places where there is no river nearby? So, for example in Phoenix, or other midwestern cities where rivers are either very small or non-existent, what do they do?
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I know that in places where there are convenient rivers and streams the tendency is to dump the communities sewage into those waterways so that it is carried away.
But what about places where there is no river nearby? So, for example in Phoenix, or other midwestern cities where rivers are either very small or non-existent, what do they do?
waste-disposal
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I think the current two answers are missing the point. Assume the city has a full sewer system and that it all goes to a single sewage treatment plant. If that plant does not have access to large amounts of fresh water and a place to release the processed water, how does it handle the sewage?
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I don't believe I've ever seen Phoenix described as "Midwestern" before.
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– Monty Harder
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@MontyHarder I think Phoenix is in that big desert in the middle of the country. There is the east coast, the desert, then the west coast. So, I was calling the desert part the "midwest".
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– Wallace Park
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@WallacePark That part of the country is called the "southwest".
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– user71659
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I've heard some great jokes about people on the coast not knowing what the middle of the country looks like, but this one might just take the cake.
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I know that in places where there are convenient rivers and streams the tendency is to dump the communities sewage into those waterways so that it is carried away.
But what about places where there is no river nearby? So, for example in Phoenix, or other midwestern cities where rivers are either very small or non-existent, what do they do?
waste-disposal
asked yesterday
Wallace ParkWallace Park
773615
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I know that in places where there are convenient rivers and streams the tendency is to dump the communities sewage into those waterways so that it is carried away.
But what about places where there is no river nearby? So, for example in Phoenix, or other midwestern cities where rivers are either very small or non-existent, what do they do?
waste-disposal
waste-disposal
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Wallace ParkWallace Park
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I think the current two answers are missing the point. Assume the city has a full sewer system and that it all goes to a single sewage treatment plant. If that plant does not have access to large amounts of fresh water and a place to release the processed water, how does it handle the sewage?
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– Ray Butterworth
yesterday
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I don't believe I've ever seen Phoenix described as "Midwestern" before.
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– Monty Harder
yesterday
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@MontyHarder I think Phoenix is in that big desert in the middle of the country. There is the east coast, the desert, then the west coast. So, I was calling the desert part the "midwest".
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– Wallace Park
yesterday
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@WallacePark That part of the country is called the "southwest".
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– user71659
yesterday
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I've heard some great jokes about people on the coast not knowing what the middle of the country looks like, but this one might just take the cake.
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– Alex H.
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I think the current two answers are missing the point. Assume the city has a full sewer system and that it all goes to a single sewage treatment plant. If that plant does not have access to large amounts of fresh water and a place to release the processed water, how does it handle the sewage?
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– Ray Butterworth
yesterday
6
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I don't believe I've ever seen Phoenix described as "Midwestern" before.
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– Monty Harder
yesterday
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@MontyHarder I think Phoenix is in that big desert in the middle of the country. There is the east coast, the desert, then the west coast. So, I was calling the desert part the "midwest".
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– Wallace Park
yesterday
6
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@WallacePark That part of the country is called the "southwest".
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– user71659
yesterday
6
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I've heard some great jokes about people on the coast not knowing what the middle of the country looks like, but this one might just take the cake.
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– Alex H.
yesterday
4
4
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I think the current two answers are missing the point. Assume the city has a full sewer system and that it all goes to a single sewage treatment plant. If that plant does not have access to large amounts of fresh water and a place to release the processed water, how does it handle the sewage?
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– Ray Butterworth
yesterday
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I think the current two answers are missing the point. Assume the city has a full sewer system and that it all goes to a single sewage treatment plant. If that plant does not have access to large amounts of fresh water and a place to release the processed water, how does it handle the sewage?
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– Ray Butterworth
yesterday
6
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I don't believe I've ever seen Phoenix described as "Midwestern" before.
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– Monty Harder
yesterday
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I don't believe I've ever seen Phoenix described as "Midwestern" before.
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– Monty Harder
yesterday
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@MontyHarder I think Phoenix is in that big desert in the middle of the country. There is the east coast, the desert, then the west coast. So, I was calling the desert part the "midwest".
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– Wallace Park
yesterday
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@MontyHarder I think Phoenix is in that big desert in the middle of the country. There is the east coast, the desert, then the west coast. So, I was calling the desert part the "midwest".
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– Wallace Park
yesterday
6
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@WallacePark That part of the country is called the "southwest".
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– user71659
yesterday
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@WallacePark That part of the country is called the "southwest".
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– user71659
yesterday
6
6
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I've heard some great jokes about people on the coast not knowing what the middle of the country looks like, but this one might just take the cake.
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– Alex H.
yesterday
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I've heard some great jokes about people on the coast not knowing what the middle of the country looks like, but this one might just take the cake.
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Phoenix has two monster "wastewater" treatment plants that produce "highly treated effluent" as output. This water is used to water golf courses, etc. before it soaks into the ground water.
Some of the treated water is piped out to the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station which uses it in the cooling towers. When I worked there, if the wind was in the right direction, the mist from the cooling towers would land on your car and you had trouble seeing through the windshield on the way home. PVNGS is a zero (liquid) effluent site. Anything they take from Phoenix that they don't use and all onsite sewage goes to the water reclamation plant where they extract any water they can and the rest goes to the evaporation pond where desert the sun and air do their thing, leaving nothing behind but minerals.
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As all the other answers have said, nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers. What is discharged into the river is the treated water that comes out of the Sewage Plant.
If your city is in a very arid area like Phoenix without a river your choices are:
- Discharge the treated water into the soil
- Use the treated water for irrigation
- Treat the water a bit more and use it as drinking water
Most of the solids will be digested by the treatment process. The rest can be incinerated, used as fertilizer, or trucked to landfill.
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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Re-use and recharging.
Arizona is rather proud of this, it seems. ☺
After filtration and treatment, the waste water is supplied for various re-use purposes. These can range from various categories of irrigation through snowmaking (sic!) to industrial coolants, and there is a system of categories of waste water and what each category may be used for.
It can also be run off into dry streams and rivers, or dumped into infiltration ponds from which it passes into the groundwater table.
The treatment plant at 91st Avenue in Phoenix supplies water to the Palo Verde nuclear plant as coolant, for example. It is claimed that 100% of the water treated at that and at the 23rd Avenue plant in Phoenix is re-used. According to a 2013 report, as of 2010 over the Phoenix Active Management Area, 82% of all waste water from treatment plants is reused.
There were plans back in 2010 for the 91st Avenue plant to do more recharging into the Agua Fria River. I do not know whether they ever came to fruition.
Further reading
- A. Middel, R. Quay, and D. D. White (2013). Water reuse in central Arizona. Decision Center for a Desert City Technical Report 13–01. Arizona State University.
- Mike Fulton and Chuck Graf (2011-11-05). Wastewater Treatment and Reclaimed Water Reuse in Arizona: Past and Present. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
- Mike Fulton (2014-10-10). Arizona’s Legacy and Leadership in Wastewater Reuse. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
Arizona: A National Leader in Water Reuse. 2014-10-04. Central Arizona Project.
Phoenix Metropolitan Water Reclamation and Reuse Project. 2010. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.- Steve Rohrer, Tim Francis, and Andrew Brown (2012). "91st Avenue Unified Wastewater Treatment Plant Targets 100 Percent Reuse". Guidelines for Water Reuse.
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Three options come to mind : septic tanks and sewage systems and reed bed treatment.
Some properties far away from others ie in rural areas have septic tanks, which get emptied every so often by "sludge gulpers" - tankers designed to suck up and remove the contents.
Being on mains drainage is much easier and the sewage ends up at Water Treatment Plants or Sewage Farms (either name is used). The sewage is treated and the residue can be spread on fields as fertilizer.
Reed beds can treat sewage but needs the ground area and climate for it to work well. One book that explains them is "Lifting the Lid" By Halestrap & Harper.
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Dumping your untreated poop directly into the river is actually a bad practice.
A lot of municipalities (at least in my neck of the EU) have a main line running through it which collects the sewage from the buildings and brings it to a water treatment plant.
If that is not an option then a septic system can be installed:
A typical septic system works with a large holding tank which overflows out into the drainage field. Which is a large area where the sewage gets slowly percolated into the groundwater where natural processes take care of it.
Building a septic system required a permit in most areas. This permit is to ensure the field and tank are sized properly, its location is recorded and that the ground can percolate the waste well enough.
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Phoenix has two monster "wastewater" treatment plants that produce "highly treated effluent" as output. This water is used to water golf courses, etc. before it soaks into the ground water.
Some of the treated water is piped out to the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station which uses it in the cooling towers. When I worked there, if the wind was in the right direction, the mist from the cooling towers would land on your car and you had trouble seeing through the windshield on the way home. PVNGS is a zero (liquid) effluent site. Anything they take from Phoenix that they don't use and all onsite sewage goes to the water reclamation plant where they extract any water they can and the rest goes to the evaporation pond where desert the sun and air do their thing, leaving nothing behind but minerals.
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Phoenix has two monster "wastewater" treatment plants that produce "highly treated effluent" as output. This water is used to water golf courses, etc. before it soaks into the ground water.
Some of the treated water is piped out to the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station which uses it in the cooling towers. When I worked there, if the wind was in the right direction, the mist from the cooling towers would land on your car and you had trouble seeing through the windshield on the way home. PVNGS is a zero (liquid) effluent site. Anything they take from Phoenix that they don't use and all onsite sewage goes to the water reclamation plant where they extract any water they can and the rest goes to the evaporation pond where desert the sun and air do their thing, leaving nothing behind but minerals.
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Phoenix has two monster "wastewater" treatment plants that produce "highly treated effluent" as output. This water is used to water golf courses, etc. before it soaks into the ground water.
Some of the treated water is piped out to the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station which uses it in the cooling towers. When I worked there, if the wind was in the right direction, the mist from the cooling towers would land on your car and you had trouble seeing through the windshield on the way home. PVNGS is a zero (liquid) effluent site. Anything they take from Phoenix that they don't use and all onsite sewage goes to the water reclamation plant where they extract any water they can and the rest goes to the evaporation pond where desert the sun and air do their thing, leaving nothing behind but minerals.
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Phoenix has two monster "wastewater" treatment plants that produce "highly treated effluent" as output. This water is used to water golf courses, etc. before it soaks into the ground water.
Some of the treated water is piped out to the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station which uses it in the cooling towers. When I worked there, if the wind was in the right direction, the mist from the cooling towers would land on your car and you had trouble seeing through the windshield on the way home. PVNGS is a zero (liquid) effluent site. Anything they take from Phoenix that they don't use and all onsite sewage goes to the water reclamation plant where they extract any water they can and the rest goes to the evaporation pond where desert the sun and air do their thing, leaving nothing behind but minerals.
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As all the other answers have said, nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers. What is discharged into the river is the treated water that comes out of the Sewage Plant.
If your city is in a very arid area like Phoenix without a river your choices are:
- Discharge the treated water into the soil
- Use the treated water for irrigation
- Treat the water a bit more and use it as drinking water
Most of the solids will be digested by the treatment process. The rest can be incinerated, used as fertilizer, or trucked to landfill.
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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As all the other answers have said, nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers. What is discharged into the river is the treated water that comes out of the Sewage Plant.
If your city is in a very arid area like Phoenix without a river your choices are:
- Discharge the treated water into the soil
- Use the treated water for irrigation
- Treat the water a bit more and use it as drinking water
Most of the solids will be digested by the treatment process. The rest can be incinerated, used as fertilizer, or trucked to landfill.
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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– thosphor
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As all the other answers have said, nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers. What is discharged into the river is the treated water that comes out of the Sewage Plant.
If your city is in a very arid area like Phoenix without a river your choices are:
- Discharge the treated water into the soil
- Use the treated water for irrigation
- Treat the water a bit more and use it as drinking water
Most of the solids will be digested by the treatment process. The rest can be incinerated, used as fertilizer, or trucked to landfill.
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As all the other answers have said, nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers. What is discharged into the river is the treated water that comes out of the Sewage Plant.
If your city is in a very arid area like Phoenix without a river your choices are:
- Discharge the treated water into the soil
- Use the treated water for irrigation
- Treat the water a bit more and use it as drinking water
Most of the solids will be digested by the treatment process. The rest can be incinerated, used as fertilizer, or trucked to landfill.
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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– thosphor
14 hours ago
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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– thosphor
14 hours ago
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"nobody in the developed world dumps sewage in nearby rivers" Except places like London with combined sewers. When it rains too hard the sewer is overwhelmed and raw sewage along with surface run-off flows directly into the Thames. Although there is a new sewer under construction to rectify this.
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Re-use and recharging.
Arizona is rather proud of this, it seems. ☺
After filtration and treatment, the waste water is supplied for various re-use purposes. These can range from various categories of irrigation through snowmaking (sic!) to industrial coolants, and there is a system of categories of waste water and what each category may be used for.
It can also be run off into dry streams and rivers, or dumped into infiltration ponds from which it passes into the groundwater table.
The treatment plant at 91st Avenue in Phoenix supplies water to the Palo Verde nuclear plant as coolant, for example. It is claimed that 100% of the water treated at that and at the 23rd Avenue plant in Phoenix is re-used. According to a 2013 report, as of 2010 over the Phoenix Active Management Area, 82% of all waste water from treatment plants is reused.
There were plans back in 2010 for the 91st Avenue plant to do more recharging into the Agua Fria River. I do not know whether they ever came to fruition.
Further reading
- A. Middel, R. Quay, and D. D. White (2013). Water reuse in central Arizona. Decision Center for a Desert City Technical Report 13–01. Arizona State University.
- Mike Fulton and Chuck Graf (2011-11-05). Wastewater Treatment and Reclaimed Water Reuse in Arizona: Past and Present. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
- Mike Fulton (2014-10-10). Arizona’s Legacy and Leadership in Wastewater Reuse. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
Arizona: A National Leader in Water Reuse. 2014-10-04. Central Arizona Project.
Phoenix Metropolitan Water Reclamation and Reuse Project. 2010. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.- Steve Rohrer, Tim Francis, and Andrew Brown (2012). "91st Avenue Unified Wastewater Treatment Plant Targets 100 Percent Reuse". Guidelines for Water Reuse.
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Re-use and recharging.
Arizona is rather proud of this, it seems. ☺
After filtration and treatment, the waste water is supplied for various re-use purposes. These can range from various categories of irrigation through snowmaking (sic!) to industrial coolants, and there is a system of categories of waste water and what each category may be used for.
It can also be run off into dry streams and rivers, or dumped into infiltration ponds from which it passes into the groundwater table.
The treatment plant at 91st Avenue in Phoenix supplies water to the Palo Verde nuclear plant as coolant, for example. It is claimed that 100% of the water treated at that and at the 23rd Avenue plant in Phoenix is re-used. According to a 2013 report, as of 2010 over the Phoenix Active Management Area, 82% of all waste water from treatment plants is reused.
There were plans back in 2010 for the 91st Avenue plant to do more recharging into the Agua Fria River. I do not know whether they ever came to fruition.
Further reading
- A. Middel, R. Quay, and D. D. White (2013). Water reuse in central Arizona. Decision Center for a Desert City Technical Report 13–01. Arizona State University.
- Mike Fulton and Chuck Graf (2011-11-05). Wastewater Treatment and Reclaimed Water Reuse in Arizona: Past and Present. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
- Mike Fulton (2014-10-10). Arizona’s Legacy and Leadership in Wastewater Reuse. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
Arizona: A National Leader in Water Reuse. 2014-10-04. Central Arizona Project.
Phoenix Metropolitan Water Reclamation and Reuse Project. 2010. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.- Steve Rohrer, Tim Francis, and Andrew Brown (2012). "91st Avenue Unified Wastewater Treatment Plant Targets 100 Percent Reuse". Guidelines for Water Reuse.
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Re-use and recharging.
Arizona is rather proud of this, it seems. ☺
After filtration and treatment, the waste water is supplied for various re-use purposes. These can range from various categories of irrigation through snowmaking (sic!) to industrial coolants, and there is a system of categories of waste water and what each category may be used for.
It can also be run off into dry streams and rivers, or dumped into infiltration ponds from which it passes into the groundwater table.
The treatment plant at 91st Avenue in Phoenix supplies water to the Palo Verde nuclear plant as coolant, for example. It is claimed that 100% of the water treated at that and at the 23rd Avenue plant in Phoenix is re-used. According to a 2013 report, as of 2010 over the Phoenix Active Management Area, 82% of all waste water from treatment plants is reused.
There were plans back in 2010 for the 91st Avenue plant to do more recharging into the Agua Fria River. I do not know whether they ever came to fruition.
Further reading
- A. Middel, R. Quay, and D. D. White (2013). Water reuse in central Arizona. Decision Center for a Desert City Technical Report 13–01. Arizona State University.
- Mike Fulton and Chuck Graf (2011-11-05). Wastewater Treatment and Reclaimed Water Reuse in Arizona: Past and Present. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
- Mike Fulton (2014-10-10). Arizona’s Legacy and Leadership in Wastewater Reuse. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
Arizona: A National Leader in Water Reuse. 2014-10-04. Central Arizona Project.
Phoenix Metropolitan Water Reclamation and Reuse Project. 2010. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.- Steve Rohrer, Tim Francis, and Andrew Brown (2012). "91st Avenue Unified Wastewater Treatment Plant Targets 100 Percent Reuse". Guidelines for Water Reuse.
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Re-use and recharging.
Arizona is rather proud of this, it seems. ☺
After filtration and treatment, the waste water is supplied for various re-use purposes. These can range from various categories of irrigation through snowmaking (sic!) to industrial coolants, and there is a system of categories of waste water and what each category may be used for.
It can also be run off into dry streams and rivers, or dumped into infiltration ponds from which it passes into the groundwater table.
The treatment plant at 91st Avenue in Phoenix supplies water to the Palo Verde nuclear plant as coolant, for example. It is claimed that 100% of the water treated at that and at the 23rd Avenue plant in Phoenix is re-used. According to a 2013 report, as of 2010 over the Phoenix Active Management Area, 82% of all waste water from treatment plants is reused.
There were plans back in 2010 for the 91st Avenue plant to do more recharging into the Agua Fria River. I do not know whether they ever came to fruition.
Further reading
- A. Middel, R. Quay, and D. D. White (2013). Water reuse in central Arizona. Decision Center for a Desert City Technical Report 13–01. Arizona State University.
- Mike Fulton and Chuck Graf (2011-11-05). Wastewater Treatment and Reclaimed Water Reuse in Arizona: Past and Present. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
- Mike Fulton (2014-10-10). Arizona’s Legacy and Leadership in Wastewater Reuse. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.
Arizona: A National Leader in Water Reuse. 2014-10-04. Central Arizona Project.
Phoenix Metropolitan Water Reclamation and Reuse Project. 2010. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.- Steve Rohrer, Tim Francis, and Andrew Brown (2012). "91st Avenue Unified Wastewater Treatment Plant Targets 100 Percent Reuse". Guidelines for Water Reuse.
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Three options come to mind : septic tanks and sewage systems and reed bed treatment.
Some properties far away from others ie in rural areas have septic tanks, which get emptied every so often by "sludge gulpers" - tankers designed to suck up and remove the contents.
Being on mains drainage is much easier and the sewage ends up at Water Treatment Plants or Sewage Farms (either name is used). The sewage is treated and the residue can be spread on fields as fertilizer.
Reed beds can treat sewage but needs the ground area and climate for it to work well. One book that explains them is "Lifting the Lid" By Halestrap & Harper.
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Three options come to mind : septic tanks and sewage systems and reed bed treatment.
Some properties far away from others ie in rural areas have septic tanks, which get emptied every so often by "sludge gulpers" - tankers designed to suck up and remove the contents.
Being on mains drainage is much easier and the sewage ends up at Water Treatment Plants or Sewage Farms (either name is used). The sewage is treated and the residue can be spread on fields as fertilizer.
Reed beds can treat sewage but needs the ground area and climate for it to work well. One book that explains them is "Lifting the Lid" By Halestrap & Harper.
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Three options come to mind : septic tanks and sewage systems and reed bed treatment.
Some properties far away from others ie in rural areas have septic tanks, which get emptied every so often by "sludge gulpers" - tankers designed to suck up and remove the contents.
Being on mains drainage is much easier and the sewage ends up at Water Treatment Plants or Sewage Farms (either name is used). The sewage is treated and the residue can be spread on fields as fertilizer.
Reed beds can treat sewage but needs the ground area and climate for it to work well. One book that explains them is "Lifting the Lid" By Halestrap & Harper.
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Three options come to mind : septic tanks and sewage systems and reed bed treatment.
Some properties far away from others ie in rural areas have septic tanks, which get emptied every so often by "sludge gulpers" - tankers designed to suck up and remove the contents.
Being on mains drainage is much easier and the sewage ends up at Water Treatment Plants or Sewage Farms (either name is used). The sewage is treated and the residue can be spread on fields as fertilizer.
Reed beds can treat sewage but needs the ground area and climate for it to work well. One book that explains them is "Lifting the Lid" By Halestrap & Harper.
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Dumping your untreated poop directly into the river is actually a bad practice.
A lot of municipalities (at least in my neck of the EU) have a main line running through it which collects the sewage from the buildings and brings it to a water treatment plant.
If that is not an option then a septic system can be installed:
A typical septic system works with a large holding tank which overflows out into the drainage field. Which is a large area where the sewage gets slowly percolated into the groundwater where natural processes take care of it.
Building a septic system required a permit in most areas. This permit is to ensure the field and tank are sized properly, its location is recorded and that the ground can percolate the waste well enough.
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Dumping your untreated poop directly into the river is actually a bad practice.
A lot of municipalities (at least in my neck of the EU) have a main line running through it which collects the sewage from the buildings and brings it to a water treatment plant.
If that is not an option then a septic system can be installed:
A typical septic system works with a large holding tank which overflows out into the drainage field. Which is a large area where the sewage gets slowly percolated into the groundwater where natural processes take care of it.
Building a septic system required a permit in most areas. This permit is to ensure the field and tank are sized properly, its location is recorded and that the ground can percolate the waste well enough.
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Dumping your untreated poop directly into the river is actually a bad practice.
A lot of municipalities (at least in my neck of the EU) have a main line running through it which collects the sewage from the buildings and brings it to a water treatment plant.
If that is not an option then a septic system can be installed:
A typical septic system works with a large holding tank which overflows out into the drainage field. Which is a large area where the sewage gets slowly percolated into the groundwater where natural processes take care of it.
Building a septic system required a permit in most areas. This permit is to ensure the field and tank are sized properly, its location is recorded and that the ground can percolate the waste well enough.
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Dumping your untreated poop directly into the river is actually a bad practice.
A lot of municipalities (at least in my neck of the EU) have a main line running through it which collects the sewage from the buildings and brings it to a water treatment plant.
If that is not an option then a septic system can be installed:
A typical septic system works with a large holding tank which overflows out into the drainage field. Which is a large area where the sewage gets slowly percolated into the groundwater where natural processes take care of it.
Building a septic system required a permit in most areas. This permit is to ensure the field and tank are sized properly, its location is recorded and that the ground can percolate the waste well enough.
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I think the current two answers are missing the point. Assume the city has a full sewer system and that it all goes to a single sewage treatment plant. If that plant does not have access to large amounts of fresh water and a place to release the processed water, how does it handle the sewage?
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I don't believe I've ever seen Phoenix described as "Midwestern" before.
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@MontyHarder I think Phoenix is in that big desert in the middle of the country. There is the east coast, the desert, then the west coast. So, I was calling the desert part the "midwest".
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@WallacePark That part of the country is called the "southwest".
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I've heard some great jokes about people on the coast not knowing what the middle of the country looks like, but this one might just take the cake.
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