What does “is its own” mean here?
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In general I do not understand the usage of "is its own" in a sentence. A sentence containing "is its own" immediately becomes unclear to me. For example what does "is its own" mean in the following context?
since the hand of a clock is its own clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create it an own class - BoundedCounter
Because a concept is an idea, my interpretation of the above sentence is that something (in this case the hand of a clock) is its own idea so it is a good idea to create a class for that something but that doesn't make sense so may be my interpretation is wrong.
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In general I do not understand the usage of "is its own" in a sentence. A sentence containing "is its own" immediately becomes unclear to me. For example what does "is its own" mean in the following context?
since the hand of a clock is its own clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create it an own class - BoundedCounter
Because a concept is an idea, my interpretation of the above sentence is that something (in this case the hand of a clock) is its own idea so it is a good idea to create a class for that something but that doesn't make sense so may be my interpretation is wrong.
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*If some thing....is its own idea, then it is prudent to create a class for that thing.
– Carly
yesterday
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The "its own" adds nothing to the meaning. It is just saying that "the hand is [by itself] a clearly definable concept."
– James Random
yesterday
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In general I do not understand the usage of "is its own" in a sentence. A sentence containing "is its own" immediately becomes unclear to me. For example what does "is its own" mean in the following context?
since the hand of a clock is its own clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create it an own class - BoundedCounter
Because a concept is an idea, my interpretation of the above sentence is that something (in this case the hand of a clock) is its own idea so it is a good idea to create a class for that something but that doesn't make sense so may be my interpretation is wrong.
meaning word-usage meaning-in-context usage phrase-meaning
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In general I do not understand the usage of "is its own" in a sentence. A sentence containing "is its own" immediately becomes unclear to me. For example what does "is its own" mean in the following context?
since the hand of a clock is its own clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create it an own class - BoundedCounter
Because a concept is an idea, my interpretation of the above sentence is that something (in this case the hand of a clock) is its own idea so it is a good idea to create a class for that something but that doesn't make sense so may be my interpretation is wrong.
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*If some thing....is its own idea, then it is prudent to create a class for that thing.
– Carly
yesterday
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The "its own" adds nothing to the meaning. It is just saying that "the hand is [by itself] a clearly definable concept."
– James Random
yesterday
add a comment |
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*If some thing....is its own idea, then it is prudent to create a class for that thing.
– Carly
yesterday
1
The "its own" adds nothing to the meaning. It is just saying that "the hand is [by itself] a clearly definable concept."
– James Random
yesterday
1
1
*If some thing....is its own idea, then it is prudent to create a class for that thing.
– Carly
yesterday
*If some thing....is its own idea, then it is prudent to create a class for that thing.
– Carly
yesterday
1
1
The "its own" adds nothing to the meaning. It is just saying that "the hand is [by itself] a clearly definable concept."
– James Random
yesterday
The "its own" adds nothing to the meaning. It is just saying that "the hand is [by itself] a clearly definable concept."
– James Random
yesterday
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You are right. The sentence is a poor one, and "is its own" is incorrect.
The correct usage is when an object provides some function for itself. For example:
An artillery piece requires a vehicle to move it around the battlefield. But a self-propelled gun is its own vehicle.
A better rendition of your sentence is:
since the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create its own class.
The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
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“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
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You are right. The sentence is a poor one, and "is its own" is incorrect.
The correct usage is when an object provides some function for itself. For example:
An artillery piece requires a vehicle to move it around the battlefield. But a self-propelled gun is its own vehicle.
A better rendition of your sentence is:
since the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create its own class.
The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
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“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
yesterday
|
show 2 more comments
You are right. The sentence is a poor one, and "is its own" is incorrect.
The correct usage is when an object provides some function for itself. For example:
An artillery piece requires a vehicle to move it around the battlefield. But a self-propelled gun is its own vehicle.
A better rendition of your sentence is:
since the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create its own class.
The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
1
“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
yesterday
|
show 2 more comments
You are right. The sentence is a poor one, and "is its own" is incorrect.
The correct usage is when an object provides some function for itself. For example:
An artillery piece requires a vehicle to move it around the battlefield. But a self-propelled gun is its own vehicle.
A better rendition of your sentence is:
since the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create its own class.
You are right. The sentence is a poor one, and "is its own" is incorrect.
The correct usage is when an object provides some function for itself. For example:
An artillery piece requires a vehicle to move it around the battlefield. But a self-propelled gun is its own vehicle.
A better rendition of your sentence is:
since the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept, it is a good idea to create its own class.
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The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
1
“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
yesterday
|
show 2 more comments
The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
1
“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
yesterday
The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
The source of this sentence appears to be an online course from the University of Helsinki. The English is generally excellent but there are a few places where it is slightly unidiomatic.
– James Random
yesterday
1
1
“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
“Is it’s own” would definitely be incorrect, but it doesn’t say that. “Is its own”, which it does say, is not incorrect by any standard I can imagine. “The hand is its own clearly definable concept” means exactly the same as “The hand is a clearly definable concept unto itself”. The latter is more idiomatic to me (and I would guess probably to most English speakers), but the former is by no means incorrect. On the other hand, “it is a good idea to create it an own class” is ungrammatical; “to create a separate class for it” would be how you’d normally phrase that in English.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
Thanks all, @JamesRandom (your deduction is correct). It's all much clearer now but since the hand of a clock is something not an idea (i.e. a concept) should it not be "the concept of a hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept" instead of "the hand of a clock is a clearly definable concept"? The latter implies that something is a concept but how can something be a concept when something is concrete where as a concept (i.e. idea) is abstract.
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet , I couldn't tag you in my previous comment but that question is for you too, I would appreciate your thoughts
– MyWrathAcademia
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
yesterday
I don't think it is necessary to be that explicit. It is quite clear what is meant when someone says, "A house is a concept that..." It would be unnecessarily redundant, otiose and a tautology to say "The concept of a house is a concept that ..."
– James Random
yesterday
|
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*If some thing....is its own idea, then it is prudent to create a class for that thing.
– Carly
yesterday
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The "its own" adds nothing to the meaning. It is just saying that "the hand is [by itself] a clearly definable concept."
– James Random
yesterday