Is there any hidden 'W' sound after 'comment' in : Comment est-elle?












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Comment est-il?



I don't know why, even tho I know that there is no linking 'W' sound in French as there is in English I still hear it between 'comment' and 'est' as if it were (/kɔ.mɑ̃ w ɛt.i.l/) and it has been driving me crazy so I'm wondering if what I hear is correct.



Here is a link to a video where I think the 'W' sound is pronounced when 'comment est-il' is said :
https://youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM



Note: I am not sure about the phonetic transcript. Feel free to correct it if it contains any mistakes.






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    There is not the least trace of a w sound after "comment" in either of the sources you mention; I've listened repeatedly; that is very strange. All that can be heard from Google translate is the somewhat blurred pronunciation of "il" (almost "i" instead of "il"). google

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    Also, while the speaker in that video doesn't have any sort of -strong- accent, I'd guess they were not native speakers. That might be messing with your ear.

    – George M
    2 hours ago
















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Comment est-il?



I don't know why, even tho I know that there is no linking 'W' sound in French as there is in English I still hear it between 'comment' and 'est' as if it were (/kɔ.mɑ̃ w ɛt.i.l/) and it has been driving me crazy so I'm wondering if what I hear is correct.



Here is a link to a video where I think the 'W' sound is pronounced when 'comment est-il' is said :
https://youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM



Note: I am not sure about the phonetic transcript. Feel free to correct it if it contains any mistakes.






prononciation







share|improve this question




















  • 1





    There is not the least trace of a w sound after "comment" in either of the sources you mention; I've listened repeatedly; that is very strange. All that can be heard from Google translate is the somewhat blurred pronunciation of "il" (almost "i" instead of "il"). google

    – LPH
    9 hours ago








  • 1





    Also, while the speaker in that video doesn't have any sort of -strong- accent, I'd guess they were not native speakers. That might be messing with your ear.

    – George M
    2 hours ago














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Comment est-il?



I don't know why, even tho I know that there is no linking 'W' sound in French as there is in English I still hear it between 'comment' and 'est' as if it were (/kɔ.mɑ̃ w ɛt.i.l/) and it has been driving me crazy so I'm wondering if what I hear is correct.



Here is a link to a video where I think the 'W' sound is pronounced when 'comment est-il' is said :
https://youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM



Note: I am not sure about the phonetic transcript. Feel free to correct it if it contains any mistakes.






prononciation







share|improve this question
















Comment est-il?



I don't know why, even tho I know that there is no linking 'W' sound in French as there is in English I still hear it between 'comment' and 'est' as if it were (/kɔ.mɑ̃ w ɛt.i.l/) and it has been driving me crazy so I'm wondering if what I hear is correct.



Here is a link to a video where I think the 'W' sound is pronounced when 'comment est-il' is said :
https://youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM



Note: I am not sure about the phonetic transcript. Feel free to correct it if it contains any mistakes.






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    There is not the least trace of a w sound after "comment" in either of the sources you mention; I've listened repeatedly; that is very strange. All that can be heard from Google translate is the somewhat blurred pronunciation of "il" (almost "i" instead of "il"). google

    – LPH
    9 hours ago








  • 1





    Also, while the speaker in that video doesn't have any sort of -strong- accent, I'd guess they were not native speakers. That might be messing with your ear.

    – George M
    2 hours ago














  • 1





    There is not the least trace of a w sound after "comment" in either of the sources you mention; I've listened repeatedly; that is very strange. All that can be heard from Google translate is the somewhat blurred pronunciation of "il" (almost "i" instead of "il"). google

    – LPH
    9 hours ago








  • 1





    Also, while the speaker in that video doesn't have any sort of -strong- accent, I'd guess they were not native speakers. That might be messing with your ear.

    – George M
    2 hours ago








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There is not the least trace of a w sound after "comment" in either of the sources you mention; I've listened repeatedly; that is very strange. All that can be heard from Google translate is the somewhat blurred pronunciation of "il" (almost "i" instead of "il"). google

– LPH
9 hours ago







There is not the least trace of a w sound after "comment" in either of the sources you mention; I've listened repeatedly; that is very strange. All that can be heard from Google translate is the somewhat blurred pronunciation of "il" (almost "i" instead of "il"). google

– LPH
9 hours ago






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Also, while the speaker in that video doesn't have any sort of -strong- accent, I'd guess they were not native speakers. That might be messing with your ear.

– George M
2 hours ago





Also, while the speaker in that video doesn't have any sort of -strong- accent, I'd guess they were not native speakers. That might be messing with your ear.

– George M
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In both the video and Google Translate's pronunciation, I think I understand what you're hearing. It seems to be an implicit glide between the /ɑ̃/ and the /ɛ/ simply as a function of the first being further back: /ɑ/ is open back, whereas /ɛ/ is open-mid front.



If a speaker is not very careful to articulate each sound distinctly (as is normal in spoken language), you can get a "legato" effect. The tongue makes essentially the same motion by moving from back to front as it would make if you were intentionally articulating a /w/.1



However, /w/ is also labial and that feature is absent in both of those unrounded vowels, so it's not a full /w/. At least, that's true of the canonical vowels. One seemingly linguistically informed and France-centred resource claims that many French speakers do actually do some light lip-rounding on the first vowel.



I personally find it hard to tell whether rounding is happening based on your video, but it would better explain your perception of /w/. In any case, if you slow the video down to 0.5x speed, you'll hear more clearly what's happening.




1 The phenomenon of two consecutive vowels is called hiatus. If not resolved, it can lead to just this sort of confusion. One way to resolve it is a brief glottal stop, perceived as a pause between the vowels. Also common in French is liaison, at least where it's syntactically possible.






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  • So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago








  • 2





    @Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

    – Luke Sawczak
    9 hours ago



















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You answered your own question: there is not and there is no reason why there would be. Where did you hear this -- is this some specific accent perhaps?






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  • Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

    – Manar
    10 hours ago











  • @Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

    – Luke Sawczak
    10 hours ago











  • In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago












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In both the video and Google Translate's pronunciation, I think I understand what you're hearing. It seems to be an implicit glide between the /ɑ̃/ and the /ɛ/ simply as a function of the first being further back: /ɑ/ is open back, whereas /ɛ/ is open-mid front.



If a speaker is not very careful to articulate each sound distinctly (as is normal in spoken language), you can get a "legato" effect. The tongue makes essentially the same motion by moving from back to front as it would make if you were intentionally articulating a /w/.1



However, /w/ is also labial and that feature is absent in both of those unrounded vowels, so it's not a full /w/. At least, that's true of the canonical vowels. One seemingly linguistically informed and France-centred resource claims that many French speakers do actually do some light lip-rounding on the first vowel.



I personally find it hard to tell whether rounding is happening based on your video, but it would better explain your perception of /w/. In any case, if you slow the video down to 0.5x speed, you'll hear more clearly what's happening.




1 The phenomenon of two consecutive vowels is called hiatus. If not resolved, it can lead to just this sort of confusion. One way to resolve it is a brief glottal stop, perceived as a pause between the vowels. Also common in French is liaison, at least where it's syntactically possible.






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  • So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago








  • 2





    @Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

    – Luke Sawczak
    9 hours ago
















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In both the video and Google Translate's pronunciation, I think I understand what you're hearing. It seems to be an implicit glide between the /ɑ̃/ and the /ɛ/ simply as a function of the first being further back: /ɑ/ is open back, whereas /ɛ/ is open-mid front.



If a speaker is not very careful to articulate each sound distinctly (as is normal in spoken language), you can get a "legato" effect. The tongue makes essentially the same motion by moving from back to front as it would make if you were intentionally articulating a /w/.1



However, /w/ is also labial and that feature is absent in both of those unrounded vowels, so it's not a full /w/. At least, that's true of the canonical vowels. One seemingly linguistically informed and France-centred resource claims that many French speakers do actually do some light lip-rounding on the first vowel.



I personally find it hard to tell whether rounding is happening based on your video, but it would better explain your perception of /w/. In any case, if you slow the video down to 0.5x speed, you'll hear more clearly what's happening.




1 The phenomenon of two consecutive vowels is called hiatus. If not resolved, it can lead to just this sort of confusion. One way to resolve it is a brief glottal stop, perceived as a pause between the vowels. Also common in French is liaison, at least where it's syntactically possible.






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  • So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago








  • 2





    @Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

    – Luke Sawczak
    9 hours ago














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In both the video and Google Translate's pronunciation, I think I understand what you're hearing. It seems to be an implicit glide between the /ɑ̃/ and the /ɛ/ simply as a function of the first being further back: /ɑ/ is open back, whereas /ɛ/ is open-mid front.



If a speaker is not very careful to articulate each sound distinctly (as is normal in spoken language), you can get a "legato" effect. The tongue makes essentially the same motion by moving from back to front as it would make if you were intentionally articulating a /w/.1



However, /w/ is also labial and that feature is absent in both of those unrounded vowels, so it's not a full /w/. At least, that's true of the canonical vowels. One seemingly linguistically informed and France-centred resource claims that many French speakers do actually do some light lip-rounding on the first vowel.



I personally find it hard to tell whether rounding is happening based on your video, but it would better explain your perception of /w/. In any case, if you slow the video down to 0.5x speed, you'll hear more clearly what's happening.




1 The phenomenon of two consecutive vowels is called hiatus. If not resolved, it can lead to just this sort of confusion. One way to resolve it is a brief glottal stop, perceived as a pause between the vowels. Also common in French is liaison, at least where it's syntactically possible.






share|improve this answer















In both the video and Google Translate's pronunciation, I think I understand what you're hearing. It seems to be an implicit glide between the /ɑ̃/ and the /ɛ/ simply as a function of the first being further back: /ɑ/ is open back, whereas /ɛ/ is open-mid front.



If a speaker is not very careful to articulate each sound distinctly (as is normal in spoken language), you can get a "legato" effect. The tongue makes essentially the same motion by moving from back to front as it would make if you were intentionally articulating a /w/.1



However, /w/ is also labial and that feature is absent in both of those unrounded vowels, so it's not a full /w/. At least, that's true of the canonical vowels. One seemingly linguistically informed and France-centred resource claims that many French speakers do actually do some light lip-rounding on the first vowel.



I personally find it hard to tell whether rounding is happening based on your video, but it would better explain your perception of /w/. In any case, if you slow the video down to 0.5x speed, you'll hear more clearly what's happening.




1 The phenomenon of two consecutive vowels is called hiatus. If not resolved, it can lead to just this sort of confusion. One way to resolve it is a brief glottal stop, perceived as a pause between the vowels. Also common in French is liaison, at least where it's syntactically possible.







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  • So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago








  • 2





    @Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

    – Luke Sawczak
    9 hours ago



















  • So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago








  • 2





    @Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

    – Luke Sawczak
    9 hours ago

















So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

– Manar
10 hours ago







So if I understood correctly, in the video and Google Transelate's pronunciation there is a /w/ sound but it is not a full /w/ sound though because such sound require the lips and I should be careful ,when saying such sentence, to not say neither a /w/ sound or a half /w/ sound and to use a glottal stop instead or a liaison ,if it's possible.

– Manar
10 hours ago






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@Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

– Luke Sawczak
9 hours ago





@Manar The best way is probably not to think about it at all. If you make those vowels right, you'll get the same effects automatically -- and native speakers won't be listening for it anyway, possibly not even aware of it.

– Luke Sawczak
9 hours ago











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You answered your own question: there is not and there is no reason why there would be. Where did you hear this -- is this some specific accent perhaps?






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  • Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

    – Manar
    10 hours ago











  • @Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

    – Luke Sawczak
    10 hours ago











  • In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago
















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You answered your own question: there is not and there is no reason why there would be. Where did you hear this -- is this some specific accent perhaps?






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  • Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

    – Manar
    10 hours ago











  • @Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

    – Luke Sawczak
    10 hours ago











  • In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago














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You answered your own question: there is not and there is no reason why there would be. Where did you hear this -- is this some specific accent perhaps?






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You answered your own question: there is not and there is no reason why there would be. Where did you hear this -- is this some specific accent perhaps?







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  • Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

    – Manar
    10 hours ago











  • @Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

    – Luke Sawczak
    10 hours ago











  • In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago



















  • Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

    – Manar
    10 hours ago











  • @Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

    – Luke Sawczak
    10 hours ago











  • In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

    – Manar
    10 hours ago

















Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

– Manar
10 hours ago





Maybe as I sometimes hear it and sometimes not. Here in this video, for example, I hear it. youtu.be/V98BvCQrVeM

– Manar
10 hours ago













@Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

– Luke Sawczak
10 hours ago





@Manar Can you add that link to the question please?

– Luke Sawczak
10 hours ago













In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

– Manar
10 hours ago





In addition, when I typed it on 'google transelate' and listened to the audio of it being pronounced I heard the 'W' sound. I even recorded the audio and tried to hear it in a slower speed and still heard it.

– Manar
10 hours ago


















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格利泽436b 太陽系外行星 太陽系外行星列表 艺术家笔下的格利泽436b 母恆星 母恆星 Gliese 436 星座 獅子座 赤經 ( α ) 11 h  42 m  11.0941 s [1] 赤緯 ( δ ) +26° 42′ 23.652″ [1] 距離 33.4 ly (10.2 pc) 光譜類型 M2.5 V [1] 軌道參數 半长轴 ( a ) 0.0291±0.0004 [2] AU 軌道離心率 ( e ) 0.150±0.012 [2] 公轉週期 ( P ) 2.643904±0.000005 [3] d (0.00723849 y) 軌道傾角 ( i ) 85.8 +0.21 −0.25 [3] ° 角距 ( θ ) 2.794 mas 近星點時間 ( T 0 ) 2,451,551.716 ±0.01 JD 半振幅 ( K ) 18.68±0.8 m/s 物理性质 质量 ( m ) 22.2±1.0 [2] M ⊕ 半徑 ( r ) 4.327±0.183 [2] [4] R ⊕ 密度 ( ρ ) 1.51 g cm -3 表面重力 ( g ) 1.18 g 溫度 ( T ) 712±36 [2] K 發現 發現時間 2004 發現者 巴特勒、沃格特、 馬西 et al. 發現方法 徑向速度、凌日法 發現地點 美國加利福尼亞州 發表論文 出版 其他名稱 Ross 905 b, GJ 436 b, [5] LTT 13213 b, GCTP 2704.10 b, LHS 310, AC+27:28217 b, Vyssotsky 616 b, HIP 57087 b, GEN# +9.80120068 b, LP 319-75 b, G 121-7 b, LSPM J1142+2642 b, 1RXS J114211.9+264328 b, ASCC 683818 b, G 147-68 b, UCAC2 41198281 b, BP...
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