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Which of the following full sentences is correct?
- Our voice needs to be heard by the media.
- Our voice is needed to be heard by the media.
It sounds to me as if they are both the same and giving a passive voice.
verbs passive-voice needs-pp
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Which of the following full sentences is correct?
- Our voice needs to be heard by the media.
- Our voice is needed to be heard by the media.
It sounds to me as if they are both the same and giving a passive voice.
verbs passive-voice needs-pp
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put on hold as off-topic by Janus Bahs Jacquet, Lawrence, Mari-Lou A, JJJ, TrevorD yesterday
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic." – Janus Bahs Jacquet, JJJ
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Neither is grammatical (at least not in the sense you’re most likely going for).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago
The question is too broad. Please limit the question by supplying the context together with why you disagree with the standard interpretation within that context.
– Lawrence
2 days ago
what if I add (by): here we have the full sentences : Our voice needs to be heard by the media OR Our voice is needed to be heard by the media---- it sounds to me they are same and giving a passive voice-- And many thanks for the comments I appreciate ..
– user342858
2 days ago
Neither is wrong: which is correct depends on its precise context & usage - which you have not supplied. I've also edited your Q. to incorporate the clarification from your comment. But I'm still voting to close this Q.!
– TrevorD
yesterday
yes This answer is helpful
– user342858
18 hours ago
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Which of the following full sentences is correct?
- Our voice needs to be heard by the media.
- Our voice is needed to be heard by the media.
It sounds to me as if they are both the same and giving a passive voice.
verbs passive-voice needs-pp
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Which of the following full sentences is correct?
- Our voice needs to be heard by the media.
- Our voice is needed to be heard by the media.
It sounds to me as if they are both the same and giving a passive voice.
verbs passive-voice needs-pp
verbs passive-voice needs-pp
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put on hold as off-topic by Janus Bahs Jacquet, Lawrence, Mari-Lou A, JJJ, TrevorD yesterday
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic." – Janus Bahs Jacquet, JJJ
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
put on hold as off-topic by Janus Bahs Jacquet, Lawrence, Mari-Lou A, JJJ, TrevorD yesterday
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic." – Janus Bahs Jacquet, JJJ
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Neither is grammatical (at least not in the sense you’re most likely going for).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago
The question is too broad. Please limit the question by supplying the context together with why you disagree with the standard interpretation within that context.
– Lawrence
2 days ago
what if I add (by): here we have the full sentences : Our voice needs to be heard by the media OR Our voice is needed to be heard by the media---- it sounds to me they are same and giving a passive voice-- And many thanks for the comments I appreciate ..
– user342858
2 days ago
Neither is wrong: which is correct depends on its precise context & usage - which you have not supplied. I've also edited your Q. to incorporate the clarification from your comment. But I'm still voting to close this Q.!
– TrevorD
yesterday
yes This answer is helpful
– user342858
18 hours ago
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Neither is grammatical (at least not in the sense you’re most likely going for).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago
The question is too broad. Please limit the question by supplying the context together with why you disagree with the standard interpretation within that context.
– Lawrence
2 days ago
what if I add (by): here we have the full sentences : Our voice needs to be heard by the media OR Our voice is needed to be heard by the media---- it sounds to me they are same and giving a passive voice-- And many thanks for the comments I appreciate ..
– user342858
2 days ago
Neither is wrong: which is correct depends on its precise context & usage - which you have not supplied. I've also edited your Q. to incorporate the clarification from your comment. But I'm still voting to close this Q.!
– TrevorD
yesterday
yes This answer is helpful
– user342858
18 hours ago
Neither is grammatical (at least not in the sense you’re most likely going for).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago
Neither is grammatical (at least not in the sense you’re most likely going for).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago
The question is too broad. Please limit the question by supplying the context together with why you disagree with the standard interpretation within that context.
– Lawrence
2 days ago
The question is too broad. Please limit the question by supplying the context together with why you disagree with the standard interpretation within that context.
– Lawrence
2 days ago
what if I add (by): here we have the full sentences : Our voice needs to be heard by the media OR Our voice is needed to be heard by the media---- it sounds to me they are same and giving a passive voice-- And many thanks for the comments I appreciate ..
– user342858
2 days ago
what if I add (by): here we have the full sentences : Our voice needs to be heard by the media OR Our voice is needed to be heard by the media---- it sounds to me they are same and giving a passive voice-- And many thanks for the comments I appreciate ..
– user342858
2 days ago
Neither is wrong: which is correct depends on its precise context & usage - which you have not supplied. I've also edited your Q. to incorporate the clarification from your comment. But I'm still voting to close this Q.!
– TrevorD
yesterday
Neither is wrong: which is correct depends on its precise context & usage - which you have not supplied. I've also edited your Q. to incorporate the clarification from your comment. But I'm still voting to close this Q.!
– TrevorD
yesterday
yes This answer is helpful
– user342858
18 hours ago
yes This answer is helpful
– user342858
18 hours ago
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This question is better suited to our sister-site ELL (English Language Learners) but in case it doesn't get migrated here's an answer.
"Our voice" is singular, so the verb that follows must be in the third-person singular (Wiktionary)
Our voice needs to be heard
As to your second sentence, which is in the simple present passive voice, it's grammatical but its meaning is slightly redundant.
Our voice is needed to be heard
The speaker is saying their voice is necessary for it to be heard by someone or something, which I suppose makes sense. But I think the OP is looking to say the following
Our voice must be heard
See Google Ngram chart below for confirmation
the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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1 Answer
1
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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This question is better suited to our sister-site ELL (English Language Learners) but in case it doesn't get migrated here's an answer.
"Our voice" is singular, so the verb that follows must be in the third-person singular (Wiktionary)
Our voice needs to be heard
As to your second sentence, which is in the simple present passive voice, it's grammatical but its meaning is slightly redundant.
Our voice is needed to be heard
The speaker is saying their voice is necessary for it to be heard by someone or something, which I suppose makes sense. But I think the OP is looking to say the following
Our voice must be heard
See Google Ngram chart below for confirmation
the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
add a comment |
This question is better suited to our sister-site ELL (English Language Learners) but in case it doesn't get migrated here's an answer.
"Our voice" is singular, so the verb that follows must be in the third-person singular (Wiktionary)
Our voice needs to be heard
As to your second sentence, which is in the simple present passive voice, it's grammatical but its meaning is slightly redundant.
Our voice is needed to be heard
The speaker is saying their voice is necessary for it to be heard by someone or something, which I suppose makes sense. But I think the OP is looking to say the following
Our voice must be heard
See Google Ngram chart below for confirmation
the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
add a comment |
This question is better suited to our sister-site ELL (English Language Learners) but in case it doesn't get migrated here's an answer.
"Our voice" is singular, so the verb that follows must be in the third-person singular (Wiktionary)
Our voice needs to be heard
As to your second sentence, which is in the simple present passive voice, it's grammatical but its meaning is slightly redundant.
Our voice is needed to be heard
The speaker is saying their voice is necessary for it to be heard by someone or something, which I suppose makes sense. But I think the OP is looking to say the following
Our voice must be heard
See Google Ngram chart below for confirmation
This question is better suited to our sister-site ELL (English Language Learners) but in case it doesn't get migrated here's an answer.
"Our voice" is singular, so the verb that follows must be in the third-person singular (Wiktionary)
Our voice needs to be heard
As to your second sentence, which is in the simple present passive voice, it's grammatical but its meaning is slightly redundant.
Our voice is needed to be heard
The speaker is saying their voice is necessary for it to be heard by someone or something, which I suppose makes sense. But I think the OP is looking to say the following
Our voice must be heard
See Google Ngram chart below for confirmation
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the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
add a comment |
the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
the answers are not helpful...somebody please help
– user342858
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
@user342858 You fixed the grammar in the first example because I explained the error. You added the object (by the media) because I said the second sentence was confusing. I told you that the second sentence was in the passive voice. I showed that the phrase "voice must be heard" is much more common.... I think you should be pretty happy but I can delete the answer if you prefer.
– Mari-Lou A
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
It is helpful neither to yourself nor to others who may consider answering your Q. if you do not say WHY "the answers are not helpful".
– TrevorD
yesterday
add a comment |
Neither is grammatical (at least not in the sense you’re most likely going for).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago
The question is too broad. Please limit the question by supplying the context together with why you disagree with the standard interpretation within that context.
– Lawrence
2 days ago
what if I add (by): here we have the full sentences : Our voice needs to be heard by the media OR Our voice is needed to be heard by the media---- it sounds to me they are same and giving a passive voice-- And many thanks for the comments I appreciate ..
– user342858
2 days ago
Neither is wrong: which is correct depends on its precise context & usage - which you have not supplied. I've also edited your Q. to incorporate the clarification from your comment. But I'm still voting to close this Q.!
– TrevorD
yesterday
yes This answer is helpful
– user342858
18 hours ago