“Such criticism was hard (for people) to take.” — Is “such criticism” a subject or an object?





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(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.





Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?





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I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.










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    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
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  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    yesterday













  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    yesterday











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    yesterday






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    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    yesterday


















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Good day!





Examples:



(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.





Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?





Thanks!





Updated:



I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.










share|improve this question




















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    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
    yesterday











  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    yesterday













  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    yesterday











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    yesterday






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    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    yesterday














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Good day!





Examples:



(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.





Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?





Thanks!





Updated:



I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.










share|improve this question
















Good day!





Examples:



(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.





Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?





Thanks!





Updated:



I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.







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    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
    yesterday











  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    yesterday













  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    yesterday











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    yesterday






  • 1





    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    yesterday














  • 2





    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
    yesterday











  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    yesterday













  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    yesterday











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    yesterday






  • 1





    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    yesterday








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The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

– FumbleFingers
yesterday





The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

– FumbleFingers
yesterday













"Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

– BillJ
yesterday







"Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

– BillJ
yesterday















"take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

– Loviii
yesterday





"take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

– Loviii
yesterday













"To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

– TaliesinMerlin
yesterday





"To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

– TaliesinMerlin
yesterday




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No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

– BillJ
yesterday





No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

– BillJ
yesterday










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The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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    The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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      The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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        The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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        The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.







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