Why do some congregations only make noise at certain occasions of Haman?
Attended a Purim Seudah tonight at a Sephardic shul where most of the attendees are Israeli. They only made noise during three (maybe four?) times Haman's name was mentioned. I am aware of the teshuva saying "no noise", but can't find anything explaining "sometimes." Is there a soource for this concept?
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Attended a Purim Seudah tonight at a Sephardic shul where most of the attendees are Israeli. They only made noise during three (maybe four?) times Haman's name was mentioned. I am aware of the teshuva saying "no noise", but can't find anything explaining "sometimes." Is there a soource for this concept?
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From memory, there are those who only make noise when there is an extension to the name, such as Haman HaAgagi. However, when the name is used alone there is no name.
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Maybe it's just a compromise to just do a few
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Thanks to both early responders. I edited to make the question clear and look forwarded to learning more!
– Deborah Savage
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In my community there's two prevalent customs: to make noise at all of them, and to make noise at only the first and last.
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Attended a Purim Seudah tonight at a Sephardic shul where most of the attendees are Israeli. They only made noise during three (maybe four?) times Haman's name was mentioned. I am aware of the teshuva saying "no noise", but can't find anything explaining "sometimes." Is there a soource for this concept?
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Attended a Purim Seudah tonight at a Sephardic shul where most of the attendees are Israeli. They only made noise during three (maybe four?) times Haman's name was mentioned. I am aware of the teshuva saying "no noise", but can't find anything explaining "sometimes." Is there a soource for this concept?
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From memory, there are those who only make noise when there is an extension to the name, such as Haman HaAgagi. However, when the name is used alone there is no name.
– sabbahillel
yesterday
3
Maybe it's just a compromise to just do a few
– Double AA♦
yesterday
1
Thanks to both early responders. I edited to make the question clear and look forwarded to learning more!
– Deborah Savage
yesterday
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In my community there's two prevalent customs: to make noise at all of them, and to make noise at only the first and last.
– DonielF
yesterday
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Welcome to MiYodeya Deborah and thanks for this first question. Can I recommend you take the tour to get a sense of how the site works? Great to have you learn with us!
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From memory, there are those who only make noise when there is an extension to the name, such as Haman HaAgagi. However, when the name is used alone there is no name.
– sabbahillel
yesterday
3
Maybe it's just a compromise to just do a few
– Double AA♦
yesterday
1
Thanks to both early responders. I edited to make the question clear and look forwarded to learning more!
– Deborah Savage
yesterday
2
In my community there's two prevalent customs: to make noise at all of them, and to make noise at only the first and last.
– DonielF
yesterday
1
Welcome to MiYodeya Deborah and thanks for this first question. Can I recommend you take the tour to get a sense of how the site works? Great to have you learn with us!
– mbloch
yesterday
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From memory, there are those who only make noise when there is an extension to the name, such as Haman HaAgagi. However, when the name is used alone there is no name.
– sabbahillel
yesterday
From memory, there are those who only make noise when there is an extension to the name, such as Haman HaAgagi. However, when the name is used alone there is no name.
– sabbahillel
yesterday
3
3
Maybe it's just a compromise to just do a few
– Double AA♦
yesterday
Maybe it's just a compromise to just do a few
– Double AA♦
yesterday
1
1
Thanks to both early responders. I edited to make the question clear and look forwarded to learning more!
– Deborah Savage
yesterday
Thanks to both early responders. I edited to make the question clear and look forwarded to learning more!
– Deborah Savage
yesterday
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In my community there's two prevalent customs: to make noise at all of them, and to make noise at only the first and last.
– DonielF
yesterday
In my community there's two prevalent customs: to make noise at all of them, and to make noise at only the first and last.
– DonielF
yesterday
1
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There are various customs about making noise when Haman is mentioned. Since you mention that it occured more than once, it sounds like the Chabad custom.
While most congregations allow banging each time Haman is mentioned,
others have the custom to do so only when his name is mentioned along
with an accolade, such as “Haman Ha’agagi” or “Haman
Hara”.38 Some only bang when hearing Haman’s name during
the segment which discusses the demise of Haman’s ten
sons.39 Yet others have the custom to do so only at the
first and last mention of Haman in the Megilla,40 or only
those references to Haman which discuss his downfall.41
38 Aruch Hashulchan 690:24, Sefer Haminhagim Chabad
39 Ketzot Hashulchan 690, Nahar Mitzrayim;Purim, Minhagim
of Worms 2:259
40 Ben Ish Chai;Tetzaveh
41 Emek Bracha Purim p.246
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As Sabbahillel mentioned, it may have been based on some pattern. I have heard of many of those combinations (although I've never heard of only banging for only "Haman Hara", which occurs only once during the Megillah, so definitely wasn't your case).
Most likely, it is one of two options:
They banged each time it mentioned Haman...Ha'agagi, which occurs 5 times in the Megillah (3:1, 3:10, 8:3, 8:5, 9:24).
What may be happening is that there was an agreement between the Ba'al Koreh and the Gabbaim (or congregation) to only stop at a few "Haman"s to save time, in which case there may be no pattern at all. I know that I have personally done this a few times.
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There are various customs about making noise when Haman is mentioned. Since you mention that it occured more than once, it sounds like the Chabad custom.
While most congregations allow banging each time Haman is mentioned,
others have the custom to do so only when his name is mentioned along
with an accolade, such as “Haman Ha’agagi” or “Haman
Hara”.38 Some only bang when hearing Haman’s name during
the segment which discusses the demise of Haman’s ten
sons.39 Yet others have the custom to do so only at the
first and last mention of Haman in the Megilla,40 or only
those references to Haman which discuss his downfall.41
38 Aruch Hashulchan 690:24, Sefer Haminhagim Chabad
39 Ketzot Hashulchan 690, Nahar Mitzrayim;Purim, Minhagim
of Worms 2:259
40 Ben Ish Chai;Tetzaveh
41 Emek Bracha Purim p.246
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There are various customs about making noise when Haman is mentioned. Since you mention that it occured more than once, it sounds like the Chabad custom.
While most congregations allow banging each time Haman is mentioned,
others have the custom to do so only when his name is mentioned along
with an accolade, such as “Haman Ha’agagi” or “Haman
Hara”.38 Some only bang when hearing Haman’s name during
the segment which discusses the demise of Haman’s ten
sons.39 Yet others have the custom to do so only at the
first and last mention of Haman in the Megilla,40 or only
those references to Haman which discuss his downfall.41
38 Aruch Hashulchan 690:24, Sefer Haminhagim Chabad
39 Ketzot Hashulchan 690, Nahar Mitzrayim;Purim, Minhagim
of Worms 2:259
40 Ben Ish Chai;Tetzaveh
41 Emek Bracha Purim p.246
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There are various customs about making noise when Haman is mentioned. Since you mention that it occured more than once, it sounds like the Chabad custom.
While most congregations allow banging each time Haman is mentioned,
others have the custom to do so only when his name is mentioned along
with an accolade, such as “Haman Ha’agagi” or “Haman
Hara”.38 Some only bang when hearing Haman’s name during
the segment which discusses the demise of Haman’s ten
sons.39 Yet others have the custom to do so only at the
first and last mention of Haman in the Megilla,40 or only
those references to Haman which discuss his downfall.41
38 Aruch Hashulchan 690:24, Sefer Haminhagim Chabad
39 Ketzot Hashulchan 690, Nahar Mitzrayim;Purim, Minhagim
of Worms 2:259
40 Ben Ish Chai;Tetzaveh
41 Emek Bracha Purim p.246
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There are various customs about making noise when Haman is mentioned. Since you mention that it occured more than once, it sounds like the Chabad custom.
While most congregations allow banging each time Haman is mentioned,
others have the custom to do so only when his name is mentioned along
with an accolade, such as “Haman Ha’agagi” or “Haman
Hara”.38 Some only bang when hearing Haman’s name during
the segment which discusses the demise of Haman’s ten
sons.39 Yet others have the custom to do so only at the
first and last mention of Haman in the Megilla,40 or only
those references to Haman which discuss his downfall.41
38 Aruch Hashulchan 690:24, Sefer Haminhagim Chabad
39 Ketzot Hashulchan 690, Nahar Mitzrayim;Purim, Minhagim
of Worms 2:259
40 Ben Ish Chai;Tetzaveh
41 Emek Bracha Purim p.246
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As Sabbahillel mentioned, it may have been based on some pattern. I have heard of many of those combinations (although I've never heard of only banging for only "Haman Hara", which occurs only once during the Megillah, so definitely wasn't your case).
Most likely, it is one of two options:
They banged each time it mentioned Haman...Ha'agagi, which occurs 5 times in the Megillah (3:1, 3:10, 8:3, 8:5, 9:24).
What may be happening is that there was an agreement between the Ba'al Koreh and the Gabbaim (or congregation) to only stop at a few "Haman"s to save time, in which case there may be no pattern at all. I know that I have personally done this a few times.
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As Sabbahillel mentioned, it may have been based on some pattern. I have heard of many of those combinations (although I've never heard of only banging for only "Haman Hara", which occurs only once during the Megillah, so definitely wasn't your case).
Most likely, it is one of two options:
They banged each time it mentioned Haman...Ha'agagi, which occurs 5 times in the Megillah (3:1, 3:10, 8:3, 8:5, 9:24).
What may be happening is that there was an agreement between the Ba'al Koreh and the Gabbaim (or congregation) to only stop at a few "Haman"s to save time, in which case there may be no pattern at all. I know that I have personally done this a few times.
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As Sabbahillel mentioned, it may have been based on some pattern. I have heard of many of those combinations (although I've never heard of only banging for only "Haman Hara", which occurs only once during the Megillah, so definitely wasn't your case).
Most likely, it is one of two options:
They banged each time it mentioned Haman...Ha'agagi, which occurs 5 times in the Megillah (3:1, 3:10, 8:3, 8:5, 9:24).
What may be happening is that there was an agreement between the Ba'al Koreh and the Gabbaim (or congregation) to only stop at a few "Haman"s to save time, in which case there may be no pattern at all. I know that I have personally done this a few times.
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As Sabbahillel mentioned, it may have been based on some pattern. I have heard of many of those combinations (although I've never heard of only banging for only "Haman Hara", which occurs only once during the Megillah, so definitely wasn't your case).
Most likely, it is one of two options:
They banged each time it mentioned Haman...Ha'agagi, which occurs 5 times in the Megillah (3:1, 3:10, 8:3, 8:5, 9:24).
What may be happening is that there was an agreement between the Ba'al Koreh and the Gabbaim (or congregation) to only stop at a few "Haman"s to save time, in which case there may be no pattern at all. I know that I have personally done this a few times.
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From memory, there are those who only make noise when there is an extension to the name, such as Haman HaAgagi. However, when the name is used alone there is no name.
– sabbahillel
yesterday
3
Maybe it's just a compromise to just do a few
– Double AA♦
yesterday
1
Thanks to both early responders. I edited to make the question clear and look forwarded to learning more!
– Deborah Savage
yesterday
2
In my community there's two prevalent customs: to make noise at all of them, and to make noise at only the first and last.
– DonielF
yesterday
1
Welcome to MiYodeya Deborah and thanks for this first question. Can I recommend you take the tour to get a sense of how the site works? Great to have you learn with us!
– mbloch
yesterday