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According to Longman Dictionary the droll comeback...




and I’m the Queen of Sheba

(humor) used as a reply when someone claims that they are famous or that they have done something impressive, but you do not believe them



‘I’d like to reserve a table for tonight – this is Demi Moore.’

‘Oh yeah, and I’m the Queen of Sheba.’




movie poster of The Queen of Sheba (1952 film)
A movie poster of The Queen of Sheba, an Italian drama/romance movie released in 1952



Amazingly, Phrase Finder has no information on this pithy rejoinder.




  • I believe that the catchphrase is a snowclone of “I'm the Queen of England” or "I'm the King of Siam" but which came first? And why is it the Queen of Sheba and not some other ancient or mythological kingdom?


  • I have a sinking feeling that it is terribly old-fashioned nowadays. What would be its modern-day counterpart?











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    That's the strangest drive-by I've seen in a while.
    – Phil Sweet
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    When you say 'snowclone of', do you mean 'is patterned after'? 'snowclone' just means 'pattern', eg "The [important person] of [some place]"
    – Mitch
    2 days ago










  • I am surprised no one has mentioned yet (including your Longman entry!) That the Queen of Sheba comes from the Old Testament. Weird.
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago












  • @DanBron it was implied by the question that it was not was there a potentially historic famous literary Queen who set out to impress/seduce or otherwise test Solomon it was when did such a high class character become a synonym for disbelief?
    – KJO
    2 days ago






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    As for why it’s the Queen of Sheba specifically, I suspect it’s simply because Sheba, and in particular the Queen, is famed for its extreme riches – she has been a trope of exorbitant wealth and power for hundreds of years, so she’s a fairly obvious choice. Of course, there are others who enjoy a similar position (Cleopatra, King Midas, Genghis Khan), but I can’t really think of any quite as apt as her: known exclusively for her wealth and power, but without any nagging side issues of being evil, despotic, murderous, scheming, etc.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    2 days ago

















up vote
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favorite












According to Longman Dictionary the droll comeback...




and I’m the Queen of Sheba

(humor) used as a reply when someone claims that they are famous or that they have done something impressive, but you do not believe them



‘I’d like to reserve a table for tonight – this is Demi Moore.’

‘Oh yeah, and I’m the Queen of Sheba.’




movie poster of The Queen of Sheba (1952 film)
A movie poster of The Queen of Sheba, an Italian drama/romance movie released in 1952



Amazingly, Phrase Finder has no information on this pithy rejoinder.




  • I believe that the catchphrase is a snowclone of “I'm the Queen of England” or "I'm the King of Siam" but which came first? And why is it the Queen of Sheba and not some other ancient or mythological kingdom?


  • I have a sinking feeling that it is terribly old-fashioned nowadays. What would be its modern-day counterpart?











share|improve this question




















  • 1




    That's the strangest drive-by I've seen in a while.
    – Phil Sweet
    2 days ago






  • 1




    When you say 'snowclone of', do you mean 'is patterned after'? 'snowclone' just means 'pattern', eg "The [important person] of [some place]"
    – Mitch
    2 days ago










  • I am surprised no one has mentioned yet (including your Longman entry!) That the Queen of Sheba comes from the Old Testament. Weird.
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago












  • @DanBron it was implied by the question that it was not was there a potentially historic famous literary Queen who set out to impress/seduce or otherwise test Solomon it was when did such a high class character become a synonym for disbelief?
    – KJO
    2 days ago






  • 3




    As for why it’s the Queen of Sheba specifically, I suspect it’s simply because Sheba, and in particular the Queen, is famed for its extreme riches – she has been a trope of exorbitant wealth and power for hundreds of years, so she’s a fairly obvious choice. Of course, there are others who enjoy a similar position (Cleopatra, King Midas, Genghis Khan), but I can’t really think of any quite as apt as her: known exclusively for her wealth and power, but without any nagging side issues of being evil, despotic, murderous, scheming, etc.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    2 days ago













up vote
10
down vote

favorite









up vote
10
down vote

favorite











According to Longman Dictionary the droll comeback...




and I’m the Queen of Sheba

(humor) used as a reply when someone claims that they are famous or that they have done something impressive, but you do not believe them



‘I’d like to reserve a table for tonight – this is Demi Moore.’

‘Oh yeah, and I’m the Queen of Sheba.’




movie poster of The Queen of Sheba (1952 film)
A movie poster of The Queen of Sheba, an Italian drama/romance movie released in 1952



Amazingly, Phrase Finder has no information on this pithy rejoinder.




  • I believe that the catchphrase is a snowclone of “I'm the Queen of England” or "I'm the King of Siam" but which came first? And why is it the Queen of Sheba and not some other ancient or mythological kingdom?


  • I have a sinking feeling that it is terribly old-fashioned nowadays. What would be its modern-day counterpart?











share|improve this question















According to Longman Dictionary the droll comeback...




and I’m the Queen of Sheba

(humor) used as a reply when someone claims that they are famous or that they have done something impressive, but you do not believe them



‘I’d like to reserve a table for tonight – this is Demi Moore.’

‘Oh yeah, and I’m the Queen of Sheba.’




movie poster of The Queen of Sheba (1952 film)
A movie poster of The Queen of Sheba, an Italian drama/romance movie released in 1952



Amazingly, Phrase Finder has no information on this pithy rejoinder.




  • I believe that the catchphrase is a snowclone of “I'm the Queen of England” or "I'm the King of Siam" but which came first? And why is it the Queen of Sheba and not some other ancient or mythological kingdom?


  • I have a sinking feeling that it is terribly old-fashioned nowadays. What would be its modern-day counterpart?








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  • 1




    That's the strangest drive-by I've seen in a while.
    – Phil Sweet
    2 days ago






  • 1




    When you say 'snowclone of', do you mean 'is patterned after'? 'snowclone' just means 'pattern', eg "The [important person] of [some place]"
    – Mitch
    2 days ago










  • I am surprised no one has mentioned yet (including your Longman entry!) That the Queen of Sheba comes from the Old Testament. Weird.
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago












  • @DanBron it was implied by the question that it was not was there a potentially historic famous literary Queen who set out to impress/seduce or otherwise test Solomon it was when did such a high class character become a synonym for disbelief?
    – KJO
    2 days ago






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    As for why it’s the Queen of Sheba specifically, I suspect it’s simply because Sheba, and in particular the Queen, is famed for its extreme riches – she has been a trope of exorbitant wealth and power for hundreds of years, so she’s a fairly obvious choice. Of course, there are others who enjoy a similar position (Cleopatra, King Midas, Genghis Khan), but I can’t really think of any quite as apt as her: known exclusively for her wealth and power, but without any nagging side issues of being evil, despotic, murderous, scheming, etc.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    2 days ago














  • 1




    That's the strangest drive-by I've seen in a while.
    – Phil Sweet
    2 days ago






  • 1




    When you say 'snowclone of', do you mean 'is patterned after'? 'snowclone' just means 'pattern', eg "The [important person] of [some place]"
    – Mitch
    2 days ago










  • I am surprised no one has mentioned yet (including your Longman entry!) That the Queen of Sheba comes from the Old Testament. Weird.
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago












  • @DanBron it was implied by the question that it was not was there a potentially historic famous literary Queen who set out to impress/seduce or otherwise test Solomon it was when did such a high class character become a synonym for disbelief?
    – KJO
    2 days ago






  • 3




    As for why it’s the Queen of Sheba specifically, I suspect it’s simply because Sheba, and in particular the Queen, is famed for its extreme riches – she has been a trope of exorbitant wealth and power for hundreds of years, so she’s a fairly obvious choice. Of course, there are others who enjoy a similar position (Cleopatra, King Midas, Genghis Khan), but I can’t really think of any quite as apt as her: known exclusively for her wealth and power, but without any nagging side issues of being evil, despotic, murderous, scheming, etc.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    2 days ago








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1




That's the strangest drive-by I've seen in a while.
– Phil Sweet
2 days ago




That's the strangest drive-by I've seen in a while.
– Phil Sweet
2 days ago




1




1




When you say 'snowclone of', do you mean 'is patterned after'? 'snowclone' just means 'pattern', eg "The [important person] of [some place]"
– Mitch
2 days ago




When you say 'snowclone of', do you mean 'is patterned after'? 'snowclone' just means 'pattern', eg "The [important person] of [some place]"
– Mitch
2 days ago












I am surprised no one has mentioned yet (including your Longman entry!) That the Queen of Sheba comes from the Old Testament. Weird.
– Dan Bron
2 days ago






I am surprised no one has mentioned yet (including your Longman entry!) That the Queen of Sheba comes from the Old Testament. Weird.
– Dan Bron
2 days ago














@DanBron it was implied by the question that it was not was there a potentially historic famous literary Queen who set out to impress/seduce or otherwise test Solomon it was when did such a high class character become a synonym for disbelief?
– KJO
2 days ago




@DanBron it was implied by the question that it was not was there a potentially historic famous literary Queen who set out to impress/seduce or otherwise test Solomon it was when did such a high class character become a synonym for disbelief?
– KJO
2 days ago




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As for why it’s the Queen of Sheba specifically, I suspect it’s simply because Sheba, and in particular the Queen, is famed for its extreme riches – she has been a trope of exorbitant wealth and power for hundreds of years, so she’s a fairly obvious choice. Of course, there are others who enjoy a similar position (Cleopatra, King Midas, Genghis Khan), but I can’t really think of any quite as apt as her: known exclusively for her wealth and power, but without any nagging side issues of being evil, despotic, murderous, scheming, etc.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago




As for why it’s the Queen of Sheba specifically, I suspect it’s simply because Sheba, and in particular the Queen, is famed for its extreme riches – she has been a trope of exorbitant wealth and power for hundreds of years, so she’s a fairly obvious choice. Of course, there are others who enjoy a similar position (Cleopatra, King Midas, Genghis Khan), but I can’t really think of any quite as apt as her: known exclusively for her wealth and power, but without any nagging side issues of being evil, despotic, murderous, scheming, etc.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
2 days ago










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At the turn of the previous century, the Queen of Sheba was a crowd-pulling spectacular traveling show, the most famous actress was a Russian "Queen of Sheba". Solomon and the Queen of Sheba was one of the many themes such as Cleopatra included in travelling shows. By the 1910s the Ringling Bros. Circus had more than 1,000 employees, 335 horses, 26 elephants, 16 camels and other assorted animals that travelled on 92 railcars. "The Greatest Shows on Earth" included pageantry and other performances in addition to the ring.





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These and similar spectaculars would have been very well known to G. B. Shaw when he wrote his plays that retold historical events in modern settings.
One of Shaw's most successful plays, Pygmalion, written in 1912 was staged in Vienna the following year and in Berlin shortly afterwards. By 1914 the author of Pygmalion has become the most popular writer in England.



The story was later presented to the masses first as Pygmalion on the screen




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and later became M(a)yFair Lady.




ELIZA [curiously] 'Ere, what's that you say?



HIGGINS. Yes, you squashed cabbage leaf. You disgrace to the noble
architecture of these columns! You incarnate insult to the English
language! I could pass you off as, er, the Queen of Sheba.



ELIZA [laughing] Ah-how-ow!




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)#Different_versions



Around the early 1930's there were several movie adaptations and in movie magazines there were Woolworths Stores advertisements for Embassy Powder,




"A $1 quality face powder for 20c? If that's true, I'm the Queen of
Sheba."
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  • Excellent! - anything on the travelling Queen of Sheba?
    – MT_Head
    2 days ago










  • I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
    – Mari-Lou A
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    That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
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The first use of the expression




I am the Queen of Sheba,




by somebody who was not actually the queen of Sheba herself, that I can find on Google books is in the 1877 book




The Queen of Sheba, by Thomas Bailey Aldritch,




where it is used repeatedly by somebody who does not actually seem to be the Queen of Sheba. It doesn't appear to be used in the sense the expression is used in today—if that's true, then I'm the queen of Sheba. From skimming the book, it appears that she is mentally ill (at least, she has been put in an insane asylum).



So this probably explains why we generally use Sheba as the country in this snow clone, unless the expression was around before this book was written and the book is playing off it. I can't find any instances of this snow clone (either with the Queen of Sheba or with other people) in Google books before 1877, but I easily could have missed them.






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  • The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
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    @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
    – Mari-Lou A
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  • Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
    – KJO
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  • @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago






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    There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
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As a point of interest, the reverse case,




or I am the Queen of Sheba




wherein the contrary-to-fact claim serves to humorously assert the truth (rather than the falsehood) of the preceding statement, appears at least as early as 1833, in The Stolen Child, by Scottish novelist John Galt:




However, give yourself no uneasiness, you are my lord's brother or I am the Queen of Sheba.




The speaker, a Mrs Servit, is characterized by her use of Scottish idioms in conversation:




...her accent, however, betrayed her Scottish origin, and yet she did not exactly speak the language of the country, though with a few deviations she evinced a perfect mistressy of its most recondite and common idioms.




These circumstances, along with the nationality of the the author, although they do not establish the case, suggest that the contrary-to-fact claim "and/or I am the Queen of Sheba" may have been an established (if deviant and recondite) Scottish idiom in the early 1800s.






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    At the turn of the previous century, the Queen of Sheba was a crowd-pulling spectacular traveling show, the most famous actress was a Russian "Queen of Sheba". Solomon and the Queen of Sheba was one of the many themes such as Cleopatra included in travelling shows. By the 1910s the Ringling Bros. Circus had more than 1,000 employees, 335 horses, 26 elephants, 16 camels and other assorted animals that travelled on 92 railcars. "The Greatest Shows on Earth" included pageantry and other performances in addition to the ring.





    • enter image description here


    These and similar spectaculars would have been very well known to G. B. Shaw when he wrote his plays that retold historical events in modern settings.
    One of Shaw's most successful plays, Pygmalion, written in 1912 was staged in Vienna the following year and in Berlin shortly afterwards. By 1914 the author of Pygmalion has become the most popular writer in England.



    The story was later presented to the masses first as Pygmalion on the screen




    • enter image description here


    and later became M(a)yFair Lady.




    ELIZA [curiously] 'Ere, what's that you say?



    HIGGINS. Yes, you squashed cabbage leaf. You disgrace to the noble
    architecture of these columns! You incarnate insult to the English
    language! I could pass you off as, er, the Queen of Sheba.



    ELIZA [laughing] Ah-how-ow!




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)#Different_versions



    Around the early 1930's there were several movie adaptations and in movie magazines there were Woolworths Stores advertisements for Embassy Powder,




    "A $1 quality face powder for 20c? If that's true, I'm the Queen of
    Sheba."
    enter image description here







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    • I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
      – Mari-Lou A
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      That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
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    At the turn of the previous century, the Queen of Sheba was a crowd-pulling spectacular traveling show, the most famous actress was a Russian "Queen of Sheba". Solomon and the Queen of Sheba was one of the many themes such as Cleopatra included in travelling shows. By the 1910s the Ringling Bros. Circus had more than 1,000 employees, 335 horses, 26 elephants, 16 camels and other assorted animals that travelled on 92 railcars. "The Greatest Shows on Earth" included pageantry and other performances in addition to the ring.





    • enter image description here


    These and similar spectaculars would have been very well known to G. B. Shaw when he wrote his plays that retold historical events in modern settings.
    One of Shaw's most successful plays, Pygmalion, written in 1912 was staged in Vienna the following year and in Berlin shortly afterwards. By 1914 the author of Pygmalion has become the most popular writer in England.



    The story was later presented to the masses first as Pygmalion on the screen




    • enter image description here


    and later became M(a)yFair Lady.




    ELIZA [curiously] 'Ere, what's that you say?



    HIGGINS. Yes, you squashed cabbage leaf. You disgrace to the noble
    architecture of these columns! You incarnate insult to the English
    language! I could pass you off as, er, the Queen of Sheba.



    ELIZA [laughing] Ah-how-ow!




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)#Different_versions



    Around the early 1930's there were several movie adaptations and in movie magazines there were Woolworths Stores advertisements for Embassy Powder,




    "A $1 quality face powder for 20c? If that's true, I'm the Queen of
    Sheba."
    enter image description here







    share|improve this answer























    • This would be the best answer so far if you provided citations...
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      @MT_Head your wish is my command.
      – KJO
      2 days ago










    • Excellent! - anything on the travelling Queen of Sheba?
      – MT_Head
      2 days ago










    • I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago








    • 1




      That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
      – Mari-Lou A
      yesterday













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    At the turn of the previous century, the Queen of Sheba was a crowd-pulling spectacular traveling show, the most famous actress was a Russian "Queen of Sheba". Solomon and the Queen of Sheba was one of the many themes such as Cleopatra included in travelling shows. By the 1910s the Ringling Bros. Circus had more than 1,000 employees, 335 horses, 26 elephants, 16 camels and other assorted animals that travelled on 92 railcars. "The Greatest Shows on Earth" included pageantry and other performances in addition to the ring.





    • enter image description here


    These and similar spectaculars would have been very well known to G. B. Shaw when he wrote his plays that retold historical events in modern settings.
    One of Shaw's most successful plays, Pygmalion, written in 1912 was staged in Vienna the following year and in Berlin shortly afterwards. By 1914 the author of Pygmalion has become the most popular writer in England.



    The story was later presented to the masses first as Pygmalion on the screen




    • enter image description here


    and later became M(a)yFair Lady.




    ELIZA [curiously] 'Ere, what's that you say?



    HIGGINS. Yes, you squashed cabbage leaf. You disgrace to the noble
    architecture of these columns! You incarnate insult to the English
    language! I could pass you off as, er, the Queen of Sheba.



    ELIZA [laughing] Ah-how-ow!




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)#Different_versions



    Around the early 1930's there were several movie adaptations and in movie magazines there were Woolworths Stores advertisements for Embassy Powder,




    "A $1 quality face powder for 20c? If that's true, I'm the Queen of
    Sheba."
    enter image description here







    share|improve this answer














    At the turn of the previous century, the Queen of Sheba was a crowd-pulling spectacular traveling show, the most famous actress was a Russian "Queen of Sheba". Solomon and the Queen of Sheba was one of the many themes such as Cleopatra included in travelling shows. By the 1910s the Ringling Bros. Circus had more than 1,000 employees, 335 horses, 26 elephants, 16 camels and other assorted animals that travelled on 92 railcars. "The Greatest Shows on Earth" included pageantry and other performances in addition to the ring.





    • enter image description here


    These and similar spectaculars would have been very well known to G. B. Shaw when he wrote his plays that retold historical events in modern settings.
    One of Shaw's most successful plays, Pygmalion, written in 1912 was staged in Vienna the following year and in Berlin shortly afterwards. By 1914 the author of Pygmalion has become the most popular writer in England.



    The story was later presented to the masses first as Pygmalion on the screen




    • enter image description here


    and later became M(a)yFair Lady.




    ELIZA [curiously] 'Ere, what's that you say?



    HIGGINS. Yes, you squashed cabbage leaf. You disgrace to the noble
    architecture of these columns! You incarnate insult to the English
    language! I could pass you off as, er, the Queen of Sheba.



    ELIZA [laughing] Ah-how-ow!




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)#Different_versions



    Around the early 1930's there were several movie adaptations and in movie magazines there were Woolworths Stores advertisements for Embassy Powder,




    "A $1 quality face powder for 20c? If that's true, I'm the Queen of
    Sheba."
    enter image description here








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      @MT_Head your wish is my command.
      – KJO
      2 days ago










    • Excellent! - anything on the travelling Queen of Sheba?
      – MT_Head
      2 days ago










    • I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago








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      That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
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    • This would be the best answer so far if you provided citations...
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      @MT_Head your wish is my command.
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    • Excellent! - anything on the travelling Queen of Sheba?
      – MT_Head
      2 days ago










    • I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago








    • 1




      That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
      – Mari-Lou A
      yesterday
















    This would be the best answer so far if you provided citations...
    – MT_Head
    2 days ago




    This would be the best answer so far if you provided citations...
    – MT_Head
    2 days ago




    1




    1




    @MT_Head your wish is my command.
    – KJO
    2 days ago




    @MT_Head your wish is my command.
    – KJO
    2 days ago












    Excellent! - anything on the travelling Queen of Sheba?
    – MT_Head
    2 days ago




    Excellent! - anything on the travelling Queen of Sheba?
    – MT_Head
    2 days ago












    I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
    – Mari-Lou A
    2 days ago






    I like the answer, really top notch but what do you mean by "Travelling show"? Like a circus? What was the Queen of Sheba act? Love the ad poster by the way, great find.
    – Mari-Lou A
    2 days ago






    1




    1




    That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
    – Mari-Lou A
    yesterday




    That comment, more useful than the pic, should go in the answer itself. Do that and the answer is accepted by me :). Sorry for the rather low view counts wish more people could see your answer!
    – Mari-Lou A
    yesterday












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    The first use of the expression




    I am the Queen of Sheba,




    by somebody who was not actually the queen of Sheba herself, that I can find on Google books is in the 1877 book




    The Queen of Sheba, by Thomas Bailey Aldritch,




    where it is used repeatedly by somebody who does not actually seem to be the Queen of Sheba. It doesn't appear to be used in the sense the expression is used in today—if that's true, then I'm the queen of Sheba. From skimming the book, it appears that she is mentally ill (at least, she has been put in an insane asylum).



    So this probably explains why we generally use Sheba as the country in this snow clone, unless the expression was around before this book was written and the book is playing off it. I can't find any instances of this snow clone (either with the Queen of Sheba or with other people) in Google books before 1877, but I easily could have missed them.






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    • The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago








    • 3




      @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago












    • Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
      – KJO
      2 days ago










    • @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago






    • 2




      There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      2 days ago















    up vote
    5
    down vote













    The first use of the expression




    I am the Queen of Sheba,




    by somebody who was not actually the queen of Sheba herself, that I can find on Google books is in the 1877 book




    The Queen of Sheba, by Thomas Bailey Aldritch,




    where it is used repeatedly by somebody who does not actually seem to be the Queen of Sheba. It doesn't appear to be used in the sense the expression is used in today—if that's true, then I'm the queen of Sheba. From skimming the book, it appears that she is mentally ill (at least, she has been put in an insane asylum).



    So this probably explains why we generally use Sheba as the country in this snow clone, unless the expression was around before this book was written and the book is playing off it. I can't find any instances of this snow clone (either with the Queen of Sheba or with other people) in Google books before 1877, but I easily could have missed them.






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    • The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago








    • 3




      @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago












    • Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
      – KJO
      2 days ago










    • @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago






    • 2




      There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      2 days ago













    up vote
    5
    down vote










    up vote
    5
    down vote









    The first use of the expression




    I am the Queen of Sheba,




    by somebody who was not actually the queen of Sheba herself, that I can find on Google books is in the 1877 book




    The Queen of Sheba, by Thomas Bailey Aldritch,




    where it is used repeatedly by somebody who does not actually seem to be the Queen of Sheba. It doesn't appear to be used in the sense the expression is used in today—if that's true, then I'm the queen of Sheba. From skimming the book, it appears that she is mentally ill (at least, she has been put in an insane asylum).



    So this probably explains why we generally use Sheba as the country in this snow clone, unless the expression was around before this book was written and the book is playing off it. I can't find any instances of this snow clone (either with the Queen of Sheba or with other people) in Google books before 1877, but I easily could have missed them.






    share|improve this answer














    The first use of the expression




    I am the Queen of Sheba,




    by somebody who was not actually the queen of Sheba herself, that I can find on Google books is in the 1877 book




    The Queen of Sheba, by Thomas Bailey Aldritch,




    where it is used repeatedly by somebody who does not actually seem to be the Queen of Sheba. It doesn't appear to be used in the sense the expression is used in today—if that's true, then I'm the queen of Sheba. From skimming the book, it appears that she is mentally ill (at least, she has been put in an insane asylum).



    So this probably explains why we generally use Sheba as the country in this snow clone, unless the expression was around before this book was written and the book is playing off it. I can't find any instances of this snow clone (either with the Queen of Sheba or with other people) in Google books before 1877, but I easily could have missed them.







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    • The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago








    • 3




      @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago












    • Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
      – KJO
      2 days ago










    • @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago






    • 2




      There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      2 days ago


















    • The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago








    • 3




      @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
      – Mari-Lou A
      2 days ago












    • Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
      – KJO
      2 days ago










    • @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
      – Dan Bron
      2 days ago






    • 2




      There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      2 days ago
















    The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago






    The first mention of the Queen of Sheba is much earlier than 1877. It entered the lexicon from the Old Testament, not a 19th C novel. The more interesting Q to me is when did “and I’m the Queen of Sheba” enter the lexicon as a rebuff?
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago






    3




    3




    @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
    – Mari-Lou A
    2 days ago






    @DanBron doesn't my question ask that? Not when the phrase "Queen of Sheba" first appeared in print, but the rejoinder itself. Why is it the Queen of Sheba and not the queen of Egypt, France, or Babylon, etc.
    – Mari-Lou A
    2 days ago














    Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
    – KJO
    2 days ago




    Just conjecture that the story was so frequently used in literature and early movies about a century ago that it may have been parodied in music hall but that's just a wild guess.
    – KJO
    2 days ago












    @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago




    @Mari-LouA Thanks to your comment and 1006a’s, I now understand better. Appreciate the help clarifying my thoughts. (Also I’ll respond to your other comments on Meta later today.)
    – Dan Bron
    2 days ago




    2




    2




    There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    2 days ago




    There must be a long history of cases that sort of fall in between the literal Queen of Sheba and the retort in this question. The retort exists in other languages too – I know it from Danish, at least – and a cursory search found at least one such instance, from Frederik Paludan-Müller’s Ivar Lykkes historie (1866): “A year ago she was considered quite the little fool in the tavern, and now they think her a wonder, a right Queen of Sheba”. That’s sort of halfway between a reference to the actual queen and her use as pure trope.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    2 days ago










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    As a point of interest, the reverse case,




    or I am the Queen of Sheba




    wherein the contrary-to-fact claim serves to humorously assert the truth (rather than the falsehood) of the preceding statement, appears at least as early as 1833, in The Stolen Child, by Scottish novelist John Galt:




    However, give yourself no uneasiness, you are my lord's brother or I am the Queen of Sheba.




    The speaker, a Mrs Servit, is characterized by her use of Scottish idioms in conversation:




    ...her accent, however, betrayed her Scottish origin, and yet she did not exactly speak the language of the country, though with a few deviations she evinced a perfect mistressy of its most recondite and common idioms.




    These circumstances, along with the nationality of the the author, although they do not establish the case, suggest that the contrary-to-fact claim "and/or I am the Queen of Sheba" may have been an established (if deviant and recondite) Scottish idiom in the early 1800s.






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      As a point of interest, the reverse case,




      or I am the Queen of Sheba




      wherein the contrary-to-fact claim serves to humorously assert the truth (rather than the falsehood) of the preceding statement, appears at least as early as 1833, in The Stolen Child, by Scottish novelist John Galt:




      However, give yourself no uneasiness, you are my lord's brother or I am the Queen of Sheba.




      The speaker, a Mrs Servit, is characterized by her use of Scottish idioms in conversation:




      ...her accent, however, betrayed her Scottish origin, and yet she did not exactly speak the language of the country, though with a few deviations she evinced a perfect mistressy of its most recondite and common idioms.




      These circumstances, along with the nationality of the the author, although they do not establish the case, suggest that the contrary-to-fact claim "and/or I am the Queen of Sheba" may have been an established (if deviant and recondite) Scottish idiom in the early 1800s.






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        up vote
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        As a point of interest, the reverse case,




        or I am the Queen of Sheba




        wherein the contrary-to-fact claim serves to humorously assert the truth (rather than the falsehood) of the preceding statement, appears at least as early as 1833, in The Stolen Child, by Scottish novelist John Galt:




        However, give yourself no uneasiness, you are my lord's brother or I am the Queen of Sheba.




        The speaker, a Mrs Servit, is characterized by her use of Scottish idioms in conversation:




        ...her accent, however, betrayed her Scottish origin, and yet she did not exactly speak the language of the country, though with a few deviations she evinced a perfect mistressy of its most recondite and common idioms.




        These circumstances, along with the nationality of the the author, although they do not establish the case, suggest that the contrary-to-fact claim "and/or I am the Queen of Sheba" may have been an established (if deviant and recondite) Scottish idiom in the early 1800s.






        share|improve this answer












        As a point of interest, the reverse case,




        or I am the Queen of Sheba




        wherein the contrary-to-fact claim serves to humorously assert the truth (rather than the falsehood) of the preceding statement, appears at least as early as 1833, in The Stolen Child, by Scottish novelist John Galt:




        However, give yourself no uneasiness, you are my lord's brother or I am the Queen of Sheba.




        The speaker, a Mrs Servit, is characterized by her use of Scottish idioms in conversation:




        ...her accent, however, betrayed her Scottish origin, and yet she did not exactly speak the language of the country, though with a few deviations she evinced a perfect mistressy of its most recondite and common idioms.




        These circumstances, along with the nationality of the the author, although they do not establish the case, suggest that the contrary-to-fact claim "and/or I am the Queen of Sheba" may have been an established (if deviant and recondite) Scottish idiom in the early 1800s.







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