When -s is used with third person singular. What's its use in this context?
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During a conversation
My friend wrote •shrugs•
Why shrugs not shrug?
She was the one who did it then why third person singular form?
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During a conversation
My friend wrote •shrugs•
Why shrugs not shrug?
She was the one who did it then why third person singular form?
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During a conversation
My friend wrote •shrugs•
Why shrugs not shrug?
She was the one who did it then why third person singular form?
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During a conversation
My friend wrote •shrugs•
Why shrugs not shrug?
She was the one who did it then why third person singular form?
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It is becoming increasingly common during text messaging to write actions as if they are from a script, for example, words like laughs or shrugs describe an action that the other person is doing but you cannot see over a text message.
TV and movie scripts are often written this way:
BOB
WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT?
JOHN
[SHRUGS]
The tense makes sense in a script because it is a prompt to say what happens. I guess this has just found its way into text-messaging as I have seen it done quite a few times.
It is also possible that your friend tried to send some kind of emoji that is named "shrugs" and you just saw a text representation of it.
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
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I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
8
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
1
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
2
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
1
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
|
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Now, this is my best guess, because if you want to know why she did it, you need to ask her. I imagine the answer will be something along the lines of "that's how everyone does it", because it is common, and people don't always know the 'why' for something that's general practice.
However, I would imagine this has to do with the history of online chat. Back in the day when you had IRC, web chats, etc, the way you indicate that you were doing something was to use some prefix - "/me" on IRC, ":" on non-IRC based web or console chats, in my experience - and it would be rendered like so, the first line being what the user typed and the second line being what was produced in chat:
/me waves hello
USERNAME waves hello
Because of this, people got used to writing such actions in the third person, and that pattern has continued even though a lot of modern chat systems don't have such syntax for actions, including even SMS (which now has a chat-like interface on smartphones).
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Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like/wavewould output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
I often see this in text/internet convention. Often, the narrative phrases get enclosed by asterisks, as in
johnthecatlover42: when someone violates the treaty of versailles
*inhales* boi
It's like stage direction in theatre, or a sudden temporary shift into a third-person voice. The text, in this case, is your friend telling you that they are shrugging.
There's almost an implied subject in the person that sent the message.
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It is becoming increasingly common during text messaging to write actions as if they are from a script, for example, words like laughs or shrugs describe an action that the other person is doing but you cannot see over a text message.
TV and movie scripts are often written this way:
BOB
WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT?
JOHN
[SHRUGS]
The tense makes sense in a script because it is a prompt to say what happens. I guess this has just found its way into text-messaging as I have seen it done quite a few times.
It is also possible that your friend tried to send some kind of emoji that is named "shrugs" and you just saw a text representation of it.
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
15.2k1655
2
I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
8
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
1
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
2
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
1
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It is becoming increasingly common during text messaging to write actions as if they are from a script, for example, words like laughs or shrugs describe an action that the other person is doing but you cannot see over a text message.
TV and movie scripts are often written this way:
BOB
WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT?
JOHN
[SHRUGS]
The tense makes sense in a script because it is a prompt to say what happens. I guess this has just found its way into text-messaging as I have seen it done quite a few times.
It is also possible that your friend tried to send some kind of emoji that is named "shrugs" and you just saw a text representation of it.
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
15.2k1655
2
I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
8
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
1
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
2
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
1
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It is becoming increasingly common during text messaging to write actions as if they are from a script, for example, words like laughs or shrugs describe an action that the other person is doing but you cannot see over a text message.
TV and movie scripts are often written this way:
BOB
WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT?
JOHN
[SHRUGS]
The tense makes sense in a script because it is a prompt to say what happens. I guess this has just found its way into text-messaging as I have seen it done quite a few times.
It is also possible that your friend tried to send some kind of emoji that is named "shrugs" and you just saw a text representation of it.
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
15.2k1655
It is becoming increasingly common during text messaging to write actions as if they are from a script, for example, words like laughs or shrugs describe an action that the other person is doing but you cannot see over a text message.
TV and movie scripts are often written this way:
BOB
WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT?
JOHN
[SHRUGS]
The tense makes sense in a script because it is a prompt to say what happens. I guess this has just found its way into text-messaging as I have seen it done quite a few times.
It is also possible that your friend tried to send some kind of emoji that is named "shrugs" and you just saw a text representation of it.
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
15.2k1655
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
15.2k1655
answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
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answered yesterday
AstralbeeAstralbee
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I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
8
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
1
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
2
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
1
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
2
I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
8
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
1
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
2
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
1
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
2
2
I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
I'm curious, do you have any sources that this is the origin of the practice, or is this a personal theory?
– SamBC
yesterday
8
8
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
@SamBC [rolls eyes]
– Astralbee
yesterday
1
1
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
As to the why, when you look at a chat/sms interface it shows speech bubbles and often includes the users' names for each response in the conversation, similar to a script/screenplay, except for alternating alignment. May I suggest an edit to the conversation to right align John and his response to illustrate this? @SamBC consider self-referentiality :-)
– mcalex
yesterday
2
2
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
I would add that the practice of giving stage directions in the third person is very old. The word exit, for example, and its plural exeunt, is the third person present active indicative singular, meaning he (or she or it) goes out and they go out, respectively.
– phoog
yesterday
1
1
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
As far as the chat/IM usage, it dates back to some of the earliest chat networks (I've seen 20 plus year old usenet and BBS messages that used it). It was made popular by IRC though, which actually has a shorthand command for formatting a comment to show up like stage directions for the user sending it in the chat log, as pointed out by SamBC's answer.
– Austin Hemmelgarn
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Now, this is my best guess, because if you want to know why she did it, you need to ask her. I imagine the answer will be something along the lines of "that's how everyone does it", because it is common, and people don't always know the 'why' for something that's general practice.
However, I would imagine this has to do with the history of online chat. Back in the day when you had IRC, web chats, etc, the way you indicate that you were doing something was to use some prefix - "/me" on IRC, ":" on non-IRC based web or console chats, in my experience - and it would be rendered like so, the first line being what the user typed and the second line being what was produced in chat:
/me waves hello
USERNAME waves hello
Because of this, people got used to writing such actions in the third person, and that pattern has continued even though a lot of modern chat systems don't have such syntax for actions, including even SMS (which now has a chat-like interface on smartphones).
answered yesterday
SamBCSamBC
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Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like/wavewould output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Now, this is my best guess, because if you want to know why she did it, you need to ask her. I imagine the answer will be something along the lines of "that's how everyone does it", because it is common, and people don't always know the 'why' for something that's general practice.
However, I would imagine this has to do with the history of online chat. Back in the day when you had IRC, web chats, etc, the way you indicate that you were doing something was to use some prefix - "/me" on IRC, ":" on non-IRC based web or console chats, in my experience - and it would be rendered like so, the first line being what the user typed and the second line being what was produced in chat:
/me waves hello
USERNAME waves hello
Because of this, people got used to writing such actions in the third person, and that pattern has continued even though a lot of modern chat systems don't have such syntax for actions, including even SMS (which now has a chat-like interface on smartphones).
answered yesterday
SamBCSamBC
19.3k2571
Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like/wavewould output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Now, this is my best guess, because if you want to know why she did it, you need to ask her. I imagine the answer will be something along the lines of "that's how everyone does it", because it is common, and people don't always know the 'why' for something that's general practice.
However, I would imagine this has to do with the history of online chat. Back in the day when you had IRC, web chats, etc, the way you indicate that you were doing something was to use some prefix - "/me" on IRC, ":" on non-IRC based web or console chats, in my experience - and it would be rendered like so, the first line being what the user typed and the second line being what was produced in chat:
/me waves hello
USERNAME waves hello
Because of this, people got used to writing such actions in the third person, and that pattern has continued even though a lot of modern chat systems don't have such syntax for actions, including even SMS (which now has a chat-like interface on smartphones).
answered yesterday
SamBCSamBC
19.3k2571
Now, this is my best guess, because if you want to know why she did it, you need to ask her. I imagine the answer will be something along the lines of "that's how everyone does it", because it is common, and people don't always know the 'why' for something that's general practice.
However, I would imagine this has to do with the history of online chat. Back in the day when you had IRC, web chats, etc, the way you indicate that you were doing something was to use some prefix - "/me" on IRC, ":" on non-IRC based web or console chats, in my experience - and it would be rendered like so, the first line being what the user typed and the second line being what was produced in chat:
/me waves hello
USERNAME waves hello
Because of this, people got used to writing such actions in the third person, and that pattern has continued even though a lot of modern chat systems don't have such syntax for actions, including even SMS (which now has a chat-like interface on smartphones).
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SamBCSamBC
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SamBCSamBC
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Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like/wavewould output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like/wavewould output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like
/wave would output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.– isanae
yesterday
Which was also picked up by MMOs, where emotes like
/wave would output "Username waves." This seems much more likely than TV scripts.– isanae
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
@isanae: pretty much any chat with /-commands is derived from IRC, I would say. The other sort of chat that this went through, of course, was MUDs and MOOs and such.
– SamBC
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
Yep, third-person reactions in chat are much older than text messaging and speech bubbles, as the other answer suggests. It's unfortunate the OP has ticked an answer so quickly.
– isanae
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@isanae It always seemed to me that the reason IRC and the like supported this feature is because it resembled stage directions in a script, so the other answer is arguably closer to the underlying cause. In my experience, people were also typing things like "waves hello" and "shrugs" even without using or knowing about the username substitution feature.
– phoog
yesterday
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
@phoog: well, the username still appears by that. It essentially ends up be a description of what has happened, in the third person. The fact of these different interpretations is why I would love to see if anyone has actually tried to figure this out.
– SamBC
23 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
I often see this in text/internet convention. Often, the narrative phrases get enclosed by asterisks, as in
johnthecatlover42: when someone violates the treaty of versailles
*inhales* boi
It's like stage direction in theatre, or a sudden temporary shift into a third-person voice. The text, in this case, is your friend telling you that they are shrugging.
There's almost an implied subject in the person that sent the message.
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I often see this in text/internet convention. Often, the narrative phrases get enclosed by asterisks, as in
johnthecatlover42: when someone violates the treaty of versailles
*inhales* boi
It's like stage direction in theatre, or a sudden temporary shift into a third-person voice. The text, in this case, is your friend telling you that they are shrugging.
There's almost an implied subject in the person that sent the message.
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I often see this in text/internet convention. Often, the narrative phrases get enclosed by asterisks, as in
johnthecatlover42: when someone violates the treaty of versailles
*inhales* boi
It's like stage direction in theatre, or a sudden temporary shift into a third-person voice. The text, in this case, is your friend telling you that they are shrugging.
There's almost an implied subject in the person that sent the message.
answered 17 hours ago
user45266user45266
1,433116
I often see this in text/internet convention. Often, the narrative phrases get enclosed by asterisks, as in
johnthecatlover42: when someone violates the treaty of versailles
*inhales* boi
It's like stage direction in theatre, or a sudden temporary shift into a third-person voice. The text, in this case, is your friend telling you that they are shrugging.
There's almost an implied subject in the person that sent the message.
answered 17 hours ago
user45266user45266
1,433116
answered 17 hours ago
user45266user45266
1,433116
answered 17 hours ago
user45266user45266
1,433116
answered 17 hours ago
user45266user45266
1,433116
1,433116
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add a comment |
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