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To the question If mice escaped on the International Space Station, could they live and thrive? both the answer and comments point out that while mice escaped from an experiment might survive a while if they could find food and water, their chewing on insulation and and seals could cause tremendous problems and endanger the lives of the crew.



It would then be absolutely critical to capture the mice as soon as possible.



How might a mousetrap for use in space work? How might it differ from terrestrial 1 g mousetraps?



"Mousetrap" may be generalized somewhat. Remember that the goal is to rid the station of the dangers posed by the mice.



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To the question If mice escaped on the International Space Station, could they live and thrive? both the answer and comments point out that while mice escaped from an experiment might survive a while if they could find food and water, their chewing on insulation and and seals could cause tremendous problems and endanger the lives of the crew.



It would then be absolutely critical to capture the mice as soon as possible.



How might a mousetrap for use in space work? How might it differ from terrestrial 1 g mousetraps?



"Mousetrap" may be generalized somewhat. Remember that the goal is to rid the station of the dangers posed by the mice.



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To the question If mice escaped on the International Space Station, could they live and thrive? both the answer and comments point out that while mice escaped from an experiment might survive a while if they could find food and water, their chewing on insulation and and seals could cause tremendous problems and endanger the lives of the crew.



It would then be absolutely critical to capture the mice as soon as possible.



How might a mousetrap for use in space work? How might it differ from terrestrial 1 g mousetraps?



"Mousetrap" may be generalized somewhat. Remember that the goal is to rid the station of the dangers posed by the mice.



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To the question If mice escaped on the International Space Station, could they live and thrive? both the answer and comments point out that while mice escaped from an experiment might survive a while if they could find food and water, their chewing on insulation and and seals could cause tremendous problems and endanger the lives of the crew.



It would then be absolutely critical to capture the mice as soon as possible.



How might a mousetrap for use in space work? How might it differ from terrestrial 1 g mousetraps?



"Mousetrap" may be generalized somewhat. Remember that the goal is to rid the station of the dangers posed by the mice.



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There are many types of mousetraps, the traditional "snap trap" is unlikely to work well because it is dependent on pressure. Lethal traps like snap traps would be undesirable:




  • Humane concerns

  • Dead mice are a health concern in a closed environment

  • You want the mice alive for experimentation


So that leaves you with non-lethal traps, the two that come to mind are:
Catch and Release traps:
enter image description here



These traps are all variations on a theme, mice come in to get the bait and the door closes behind them. There are simple mechanical ones and electronic ones, I'd assume the electric ones are better again because you don't want to be reliant on pressure sensing.



Glue traps: these are really just sheets of very sticky glue with bait in the middle. A mouse gets stuck to the glue, it's that simple. These aren't perfect as it can be difficult to get the mouse off in one piece, and you'd be introducing solvents into the atmosphere from the glue. But, they'd be useful for some hard to reach places.






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    It does, in my answer I say an electronic one with a sensor would be better @JCRM, I just couldn't find a decent picture of one.
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    Wouldn't the spring-action of a snap trap still work in zero g?
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Other suggestions here for trap mechanisms may have incorporated consideration of zero gravity on the operation of the trap, but not upon the mouse itself. In zero gravity, searching for a mouse is no longer an effectively 2-dimensional search of and behind surfaces. The moment a mouse escaped its enclosure and tried to walk along a surface, the very act of locomotion (by exerting force upon the surface) would propel its small mass away from the surface and into the three dimensional volume of the station.



One wouldn't need to be searching hiding places for the mouse, but simply scanning the air space. Catching it would be a simple manual process of plucking it out of the air. No matter how fast it tried running, its legs would be cycling uselessly and it would simply be drifting at relatively constant velocity until it collided with another surface, whereupon it would very quickly unintentionally launch itself back into the air.






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    Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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    @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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    Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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    @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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A solution that comes to mind is to seal off one section of the ISS at a time and depressurize it.



Finding and removing dead mice may be somewhat easier than finding and removing live ones that are actively avoiding capture.



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    I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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    @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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    That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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I believe that funnel traps should work in zero-gravity. They are not active, do not use gravity or springs. Gravity may help the mouse fall in for those with opening at the top but imho that is not strictly needed as other designs use openings on the sides.



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    ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
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Modern problems require modern solutions!



You can't rely on gravity. what you want is a modified vacuum cleaner.
Essentially a suction device with a metal grill to catch the mouse (nobody wants to puree a rodent!) Given that the mouse is essentially guiding itself along the wall, it doesn't have anything to cling to, and gravity is a non-factor. So the suction should draw it in without issue!



You'd place food or a similar lure in an easily accessed location, use light-sensors or similar to trigger it, then power up your vacuum cleaner.
Assuming enough suction, your rodent will immediately be caught on the metal grill inside the mouth of the vacuum cleaner, unable to pull itself free of a hurricane-strength suction.



The noise should attract the astronauts, who immediately bag the rodent and put it back in the cage none-the-worse for wear.



Reset the trap and await the next mouse!






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    You dont want to kill the mice as they can be used for experimentation purposes, and the regular snap traps wont work because of the need of pressure for them to work, and that will kill the mouse. They would use a catch a release trap, there are electronic and mechanical traps, however electronic ones would be more effective.






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      Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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    There are many types of mousetraps, the traditional "snap trap" is unlikely to work well because it is dependent on pressure. Lethal traps like snap traps would be undesirable:




    • Humane concerns

    • Dead mice are a health concern in a closed environment

    • You want the mice alive for experimentation


    So that leaves you with non-lethal traps, the two that come to mind are:
    Catch and Release traps:
    enter image description here



    These traps are all variations on a theme, mice come in to get the bait and the door closes behind them. There are simple mechanical ones and electronic ones, I'd assume the electric ones are better again because you don't want to be reliant on pressure sensing.



    Glue traps: these are really just sheets of very sticky glue with bait in the middle. A mouse gets stuck to the glue, it's that simple. These aren't perfect as it can be difficult to get the mouse off in one piece, and you'd be introducing solvents into the atmosphere from the glue. But, they'd be useful for some hard to reach places.






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      It does, in my answer I say an electronic one with a sensor would be better @JCRM, I just couldn't find a decent picture of one.
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    There are many types of mousetraps, the traditional "snap trap" is unlikely to work well because it is dependent on pressure. Lethal traps like snap traps would be undesirable:




    • Humane concerns

    • Dead mice are a health concern in a closed environment

    • You want the mice alive for experimentation


    So that leaves you with non-lethal traps, the two that come to mind are:
    Catch and Release traps:
    enter image description here



    These traps are all variations on a theme, mice come in to get the bait and the door closes behind them. There are simple mechanical ones and electronic ones, I'd assume the electric ones are better again because you don't want to be reliant on pressure sensing.



    Glue traps: these are really just sheets of very sticky glue with bait in the middle. A mouse gets stuck to the glue, it's that simple. These aren't perfect as it can be difficult to get the mouse off in one piece, and you'd be introducing solvents into the atmosphere from the glue. But, they'd be useful for some hard to reach places.






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    There are many types of mousetraps, the traditional "snap trap" is unlikely to work well because it is dependent on pressure. Lethal traps like snap traps would be undesirable:




    • Humane concerns

    • Dead mice are a health concern in a closed environment

    • You want the mice alive for experimentation


    So that leaves you with non-lethal traps, the two that come to mind are:
    Catch and Release traps:
    enter image description here



    These traps are all variations on a theme, mice come in to get the bait and the door closes behind them. There are simple mechanical ones and electronic ones, I'd assume the electric ones are better again because you don't want to be reliant on pressure sensing.



    Glue traps: these are really just sheets of very sticky glue with bait in the middle. A mouse gets stuck to the glue, it's that simple. These aren't perfect as it can be difficult to get the mouse off in one piece, and you'd be introducing solvents into the atmosphere from the glue. But, they'd be useful for some hard to reach places.






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    There are many types of mousetraps, the traditional "snap trap" is unlikely to work well because it is dependent on pressure. Lethal traps like snap traps would be undesirable:




    • Humane concerns

    • Dead mice are a health concern in a closed environment

    • You want the mice alive for experimentation


    So that leaves you with non-lethal traps, the two that come to mind are:
    Catch and Release traps:
    enter image description here



    These traps are all variations on a theme, mice come in to get the bait and the door closes behind them. There are simple mechanical ones and electronic ones, I'd assume the electric ones are better again because you don't want to be reliant on pressure sensing.



    Glue traps: these are really just sheets of very sticky glue with bait in the middle. A mouse gets stuck to the glue, it's that simple. These aren't perfect as it can be difficult to get the mouse off in one piece, and you'd be introducing solvents into the atmosphere from the glue. But, they'd be useful for some hard to reach places.







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    Wouldn't the spring-action of a snap trap still work in zero g?
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    Wouldn't the spring-action of a snap trap still work in zero g?
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    @cr0 The spring would work, but the pressure-based trigger is less likely to do so...
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    @cr0 The spring would work, but the pressure-based trigger is less likely to do so...
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    Other suggestions here for trap mechanisms may have incorporated consideration of zero gravity on the operation of the trap, but not upon the mouse itself. In zero gravity, searching for a mouse is no longer an effectively 2-dimensional search of and behind surfaces. The moment a mouse escaped its enclosure and tried to walk along a surface, the very act of locomotion (by exerting force upon the surface) would propel its small mass away from the surface and into the three dimensional volume of the station.



    One wouldn't need to be searching hiding places for the mouse, but simply scanning the air space. Catching it would be a simple manual process of plucking it out of the air. No matter how fast it tried running, its legs would be cycling uselessly and it would simply be drifting at relatively constant velocity until it collided with another surface, whereupon it would very quickly unintentionally launch itself back into the air.






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      Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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      @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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      Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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      @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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      @user27163 I disagree. Rats are very intelligent (and hard to catch because of that) but mice are terminally stupid.
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    Other suggestions here for trap mechanisms may have incorporated consideration of zero gravity on the operation of the trap, but not upon the mouse itself. In zero gravity, searching for a mouse is no longer an effectively 2-dimensional search of and behind surfaces. The moment a mouse escaped its enclosure and tried to walk along a surface, the very act of locomotion (by exerting force upon the surface) would propel its small mass away from the surface and into the three dimensional volume of the station.



    One wouldn't need to be searching hiding places for the mouse, but simply scanning the air space. Catching it would be a simple manual process of plucking it out of the air. No matter how fast it tried running, its legs would be cycling uselessly and it would simply be drifting at relatively constant velocity until it collided with another surface, whereupon it would very quickly unintentionally launch itself back into the air.






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      Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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      yesterday






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      @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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      Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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      @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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      @user27163 I disagree. Rats are very intelligent (and hard to catch because of that) but mice are terminally stupid.
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    Other suggestions here for trap mechanisms may have incorporated consideration of zero gravity on the operation of the trap, but not upon the mouse itself. In zero gravity, searching for a mouse is no longer an effectively 2-dimensional search of and behind surfaces. The moment a mouse escaped its enclosure and tried to walk along a surface, the very act of locomotion (by exerting force upon the surface) would propel its small mass away from the surface and into the three dimensional volume of the station.



    One wouldn't need to be searching hiding places for the mouse, but simply scanning the air space. Catching it would be a simple manual process of plucking it out of the air. No matter how fast it tried running, its legs would be cycling uselessly and it would simply be drifting at relatively constant velocity until it collided with another surface, whereupon it would very quickly unintentionally launch itself back into the air.






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    Other suggestions here for trap mechanisms may have incorporated consideration of zero gravity on the operation of the trap, but not upon the mouse itself. In zero gravity, searching for a mouse is no longer an effectively 2-dimensional search of and behind surfaces. The moment a mouse escaped its enclosure and tried to walk along a surface, the very act of locomotion (by exerting force upon the surface) would propel its small mass away from the surface and into the three dimensional volume of the station.



    One wouldn't need to be searching hiding places for the mouse, but simply scanning the air space. Catching it would be a simple manual process of plucking it out of the air. No matter how fast it tried running, its legs would be cycling uselessly and it would simply be drifting at relatively constant velocity until it collided with another surface, whereupon it would very quickly unintentionally launch itself back into the air.







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      Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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      @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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      Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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      @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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      @user27163 I disagree. Rats are very intelligent (and hard to catch because of that) but mice are terminally stupid.
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      Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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      – Ray Butterworth
      yesterday






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      $begingroup$
      @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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      yesterday








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      Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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      @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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      @user27163 I disagree. Rats are very intelligent (and hard to catch because of that) but mice are terminally stupid.
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    Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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    – Ray Butterworth
    yesterday




    $begingroup$
    Note that here on Earth, mice don't live on a 2-dimensional floor, they almost always move along the 1-dimensional line that joins the floor and wall. A trap in the middle of a floor, or even only a foot away from a wall, will seldom catch anything. To be effective, traps have to be placed perpendicular to the wall, with the bait end touching the wall. So even with 3 dimensions to work with, mice will still try to stay at the edges of any room. (How successful they'll be I don't know. It would make an interesting experiment though.
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    yesterday




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    @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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    – Michael MacAskill
    yesterday






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    @RayButterworth Yes, that's a nice way to characterise constraints on their behaviour in their natural terrestrial environment. I think they would instinctively try to do the same thing in a large microgravity environment, but fail to do so (because they would need to use a strategy of using their paws in an alternating fashion to grasp surfaces rather than use standard quadripedal locomotion). They would lack a human's cognitive ability to use alternate forms of movement strategy (e.g. using handgrips, or propelling oneself intentionally through the air to a destination).
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    Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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    yesterday




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    Exactly what I was thinking. Mice ARE very intelligent, but it's so foreign, I think you'd have quite a while while they're floating around helplessly.
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    @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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    – alephzero
    17 hours ago






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    @RayButterworth that is true, except that for terrestrial mouse traps you don't need any bait at all if you put them in the correct place as you indicated. Amusingly, one hardware store chain in the UK now sells old-style spring traps where the pressure pad is a piece of yellow plastic shaped to look like a piece of cheese, instead of the traditional bit of wood with a pin to hold the bait. They work just fine, even though real cheese is a very poor bait for mouse traps - they much prefer chocolate in my experience.
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    @user27163 I disagree. Rats are very intelligent (and hard to catch because of that) but mice are terminally stupid.
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    @user27163 I disagree. Rats are very intelligent (and hard to catch because of that) but mice are terminally stupid.
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    A solution that comes to mind is to seal off one section of the ISS at a time and depressurize it.



    Finding and removing dead mice may be somewhat easier than finding and removing live ones that are actively avoiding capture.



    (I fully agree with the comments - removing the dead mice would be a major problem)






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      I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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      @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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      That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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      You'd certainly want to seal all the hatches. Search each compartment section by section so that you can be sure you've got them all.
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      @Ruadhan2300: Sounds like a plan that Dallas and Ripley tried.
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    A solution that comes to mind is to seal off one section of the ISS at a time and depressurize it.



    Finding and removing dead mice may be somewhat easier than finding and removing live ones that are actively avoiding capture.



    (I fully agree with the comments - removing the dead mice would be a major problem)






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      I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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      @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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      That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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      You'd certainly want to seal all the hatches. Search each compartment section by section so that you can be sure you've got them all.
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    A solution that comes to mind is to seal off one section of the ISS at a time and depressurize it.



    Finding and removing dead mice may be somewhat easier than finding and removing live ones that are actively avoiding capture.



    (I fully agree with the comments - removing the dead mice would be a major problem)






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    A solution that comes to mind is to seal off one section of the ISS at a time and depressurize it.



    Finding and removing dead mice may be somewhat easier than finding and removing live ones that are actively avoiding capture.



    (I fully agree with the comments - removing the dead mice would be a major problem)







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      I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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      @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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      yesterday






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      That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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      You'd certainly want to seal all the hatches. Search each compartment section by section so that you can be sure you've got them all.
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      @Ruadhan2300: Sounds like a plan that Dallas and Ripley tried.
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      I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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      yesterday






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      @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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      yesterday






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      That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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      You'd certainly want to seal all the hatches. Search each compartment section by section so that you can be sure you've got them all.
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      18 hours ago










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      @Ruadhan2300: Sounds like a plan that Dallas and Ripley tried.
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    I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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    I have to disagree with that fundamentally, mice are amazing at working their way into things, you don't want a rotting mouse corpse stuck behind a console where the crew can't reach!
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    @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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    – ceejayoz
    yesterday




    $begingroup$
    @GdD Agreed. I once had a mouse die in the heating vents of my car, and the car was old enough where taking it apart to find it would've exceeded the value of the car. Even with the windows open it stank for months.
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    That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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    yesterday




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    That's nasty @ceejayoz! I had one die behind a range once, couldn't get the landlord to send someone to get it out and I wasn't allowed to move it contractually. Pretty unpleasant!
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    You'd certainly want to seal all the hatches. Search each compartment section by section so that you can be sure you've got them all.
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    18 hours ago




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    You'd certainly want to seal all the hatches. Search each compartment section by section so that you can be sure you've got them all.
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    18 hours ago












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    @Ruadhan2300: Sounds like a plan that Dallas and Ripley tried.
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    I believe that funnel traps should work in zero-gravity. They are not active, do not use gravity or springs. Gravity may help the mouse fall in for those with opening at the top but imho that is not strictly needed as other designs use openings on the sides.



    A trap
    Image source Little Green Shop






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      I like this one.
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      ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
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      I'm impressed that mice never figure out how to escape this.
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    I believe that funnel traps should work in zero-gravity. They are not active, do not use gravity or springs. Gravity may help the mouse fall in for those with opening at the top but imho that is not strictly needed as other designs use openings on the sides.



    A trap
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      I like this one.
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      ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
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    I believe that funnel traps should work in zero-gravity. They are not active, do not use gravity or springs. Gravity may help the mouse fall in for those with opening at the top but imho that is not strictly needed as other designs use openings on the sides.



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    I believe that funnel traps should work in zero-gravity. They are not active, do not use gravity or springs. Gravity may help the mouse fall in for those with opening at the top but imho that is not strictly needed as other designs use openings on the sides.



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      ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
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      – jwenting
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      I'm impressed that mice never figure out how to escape this.
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      I like this one.
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      ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
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      – jwenting
      yesterday










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      I'm impressed that mice never figure out how to escape this.
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      – Joshua
      11 hours ago








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    ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
    $endgroup$
    – jwenting
    yesterday




    $begingroup$
    ah, those ones. We had those in our chicken coops when I was little. Couldn't use regular mouse traps as the chickens would step on them and trigger the mechanism with their feet.
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    – jwenting
    yesterday












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    I'm impressed that mice never figure out how to escape this.
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    – Joshua
    11 hours ago




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    I'm impressed that mice never figure out how to escape this.
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    Modern problems require modern solutions!



    You can't rely on gravity. what you want is a modified vacuum cleaner.
    Essentially a suction device with a metal grill to catch the mouse (nobody wants to puree a rodent!) Given that the mouse is essentially guiding itself along the wall, it doesn't have anything to cling to, and gravity is a non-factor. So the suction should draw it in without issue!



    You'd place food or a similar lure in an easily accessed location, use light-sensors or similar to trigger it, then power up your vacuum cleaner.
    Assuming enough suction, your rodent will immediately be caught on the metal grill inside the mouth of the vacuum cleaner, unable to pull itself free of a hurricane-strength suction.



    The noise should attract the astronauts, who immediately bag the rodent and put it back in the cage none-the-worse for wear.



    Reset the trap and await the next mouse!






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      Modern problems require modern solutions!



      You can't rely on gravity. what you want is a modified vacuum cleaner.
      Essentially a suction device with a metal grill to catch the mouse (nobody wants to puree a rodent!) Given that the mouse is essentially guiding itself along the wall, it doesn't have anything to cling to, and gravity is a non-factor. So the suction should draw it in without issue!



      You'd place food or a similar lure in an easily accessed location, use light-sensors or similar to trigger it, then power up your vacuum cleaner.
      Assuming enough suction, your rodent will immediately be caught on the metal grill inside the mouth of the vacuum cleaner, unable to pull itself free of a hurricane-strength suction.



      The noise should attract the astronauts, who immediately bag the rodent and put it back in the cage none-the-worse for wear.



      Reset the trap and await the next mouse!






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        Modern problems require modern solutions!



        You can't rely on gravity. what you want is a modified vacuum cleaner.
        Essentially a suction device with a metal grill to catch the mouse (nobody wants to puree a rodent!) Given that the mouse is essentially guiding itself along the wall, it doesn't have anything to cling to, and gravity is a non-factor. So the suction should draw it in without issue!



        You'd place food or a similar lure in an easily accessed location, use light-sensors or similar to trigger it, then power up your vacuum cleaner.
        Assuming enough suction, your rodent will immediately be caught on the metal grill inside the mouth of the vacuum cleaner, unable to pull itself free of a hurricane-strength suction.



        The noise should attract the astronauts, who immediately bag the rodent and put it back in the cage none-the-worse for wear.



        Reset the trap and await the next mouse!






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        Modern problems require modern solutions!



        You can't rely on gravity. what you want is a modified vacuum cleaner.
        Essentially a suction device with a metal grill to catch the mouse (nobody wants to puree a rodent!) Given that the mouse is essentially guiding itself along the wall, it doesn't have anything to cling to, and gravity is a non-factor. So the suction should draw it in without issue!



        You'd place food or a similar lure in an easily accessed location, use light-sensors or similar to trigger it, then power up your vacuum cleaner.
        Assuming enough suction, your rodent will immediately be caught on the metal grill inside the mouth of the vacuum cleaner, unable to pull itself free of a hurricane-strength suction.



        The noise should attract the astronauts, who immediately bag the rodent and put it back in the cage none-the-worse for wear.



        Reset the trap and await the next mouse!







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            You dont want to kill the mice as they can be used for experimentation purposes, and the regular snap traps wont work because of the need of pressure for them to work, and that will kill the mouse. They would use a catch a release trap, there are electronic and mechanical traps, however electronic ones would be more effective.






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              Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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            You dont want to kill the mice as they can be used for experimentation purposes, and the regular snap traps wont work because of the need of pressure for them to work, and that will kill the mouse. They would use a catch a release trap, there are electronic and mechanical traps, however electronic ones would be more effective.






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              Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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            You dont want to kill the mice as they can be used for experimentation purposes, and the regular snap traps wont work because of the need of pressure for them to work, and that will kill the mouse. They would use a catch a release trap, there are electronic and mechanical traps, however electronic ones would be more effective.






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            You dont want to kill the mice as they can be used for experimentation purposes, and the regular snap traps wont work because of the need of pressure for them to work, and that will kill the mouse. They would use a catch a release trap, there are electronic and mechanical traps, however electronic ones would be more effective.







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              Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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              Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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            Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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            Interesting. Can you expand on that a little bit? Why would electronic traps be better for use in Space? I've never heard of electronic catch-and-release mouse traps, so maybe a sentence or two explaining how they operate would be helpful as well. Thanks!
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