'under the guise of' or 'under the banner of'





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Could anyone please tell me when to use 'under the banner of' and when to use 'under the guise of'? Does banner have to be applied for a large group? e.g. 'They were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting?' And guise for two people? e.g. 'He betrayed him under the guise of friendship.' Thank you in advance!










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    Generally, banner applies to acting on behalf of someone or something else. Guise means that you are pretending to be or do something other than it appears. It's highly doubtful anybody would say they were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting. Rather, it would be they were hunting fox under the banner of the lord and lady of the estate.
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  • Thank you for this! Is it correct to say 'They were hunting fox under the guise of trail hunting.' meaning it looked like they were trail hunting although in fact they were hunting fox? And 'on the pretext of' is used as an excuse? e.g. He called her on the pretext of needing more information.
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    Yes, under the guise of trail hunting makes sense. And so would saying that trail hunting was a pretext for fox hunting.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • This is all very useful, thanks a lot!
    – Karen
    2 days ago

















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Could anyone please tell me when to use 'under the banner of' and when to use 'under the guise of'? Does banner have to be applied for a large group? e.g. 'They were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting?' And guise for two people? e.g. 'He betrayed him under the guise of friendship.' Thank you in advance!










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    Generally, banner applies to acting on behalf of someone or something else. Guise means that you are pretending to be or do something other than it appears. It's highly doubtful anybody would say they were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting. Rather, it would be they were hunting fox under the banner of the lord and lady of the estate.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • Thank you for this! Is it correct to say 'They were hunting fox under the guise of trail hunting.' meaning it looked like they were trail hunting although in fact they were hunting fox? And 'on the pretext of' is used as an excuse? e.g. He called her on the pretext of needing more information.
    – Karen
    2 days ago








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    Yes, under the guise of trail hunting makes sense. And so would saying that trail hunting was a pretext for fox hunting.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • This is all very useful, thanks a lot!
    – Karen
    2 days ago













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Could anyone please tell me when to use 'under the banner of' and when to use 'under the guise of'? Does banner have to be applied for a large group? e.g. 'They were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting?' And guise for two people? e.g. 'He betrayed him under the guise of friendship.' Thank you in advance!










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Could anyone please tell me when to use 'under the banner of' and when to use 'under the guise of'? Does banner have to be applied for a large group? e.g. 'They were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting?' And guise for two people? e.g. 'He betrayed him under the guise of friendship.' Thank you in advance!







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    Generally, banner applies to acting on behalf of someone or something else. Guise means that you are pretending to be or do something other than it appears. It's highly doubtful anybody would say they were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting. Rather, it would be they were hunting fox under the banner of the lord and lady of the estate.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • Thank you for this! Is it correct to say 'They were hunting fox under the guise of trail hunting.' meaning it looked like they were trail hunting although in fact they were hunting fox? And 'on the pretext of' is used as an excuse? e.g. He called her on the pretext of needing more information.
    – Karen
    2 days ago








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    Yes, under the guise of trail hunting makes sense. And so would saying that trail hunting was a pretext for fox hunting.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • This is all very useful, thanks a lot!
    – Karen
    2 days ago














  • 1




    Generally, banner applies to acting on behalf of someone or something else. Guise means that you are pretending to be or do something other than it appears. It's highly doubtful anybody would say they were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting. Rather, it would be they were hunting fox under the banner of the lord and lady of the estate.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • Thank you for this! Is it correct to say 'They were hunting fox under the guise of trail hunting.' meaning it looked like they were trail hunting although in fact they were hunting fox? And 'on the pretext of' is used as an excuse? e.g. He called her on the pretext of needing more information.
    – Karen
    2 days ago








  • 1




    Yes, under the guise of trail hunting makes sense. And so would saying that trail hunting was a pretext for fox hunting.
    – Jason Bassford
    2 days ago










  • This is all very useful, thanks a lot!
    – Karen
    2 days ago








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Generally, banner applies to acting on behalf of someone or something else. Guise means that you are pretending to be or do something other than it appears. It's highly doubtful anybody would say they were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting. Rather, it would be they were hunting fox under the banner of the lord and lady of the estate.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago




Generally, banner applies to acting on behalf of someone or something else. Guise means that you are pretending to be or do something other than it appears. It's highly doubtful anybody would say they were hunting fox under the banner of trail hunting. Rather, it would be they were hunting fox under the banner of the lord and lady of the estate.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago












Thank you for this! Is it correct to say 'They were hunting fox under the guise of trail hunting.' meaning it looked like they were trail hunting although in fact they were hunting fox? And 'on the pretext of' is used as an excuse? e.g. He called her on the pretext of needing more information.
– Karen
2 days ago






Thank you for this! Is it correct to say 'They were hunting fox under the guise of trail hunting.' meaning it looked like they were trail hunting although in fact they were hunting fox? And 'on the pretext of' is used as an excuse? e.g. He called her on the pretext of needing more information.
– Karen
2 days ago






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Yes, under the guise of trail hunting makes sense. And so would saying that trail hunting was a pretext for fox hunting.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago




Yes, under the guise of trail hunting makes sense. And so would saying that trail hunting was a pretext for fox hunting.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago












This is all very useful, thanks a lot!
– Karen
2 days ago




This is all very useful, thanks a lot!
– Karen
2 days ago















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