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What is the difference between the following two sentences.




Breakfast is over.



Breakfast has been over.




What does has been mean in the second sentence, is it in passive voice.










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    The first sentence is normal. The second requires more context. The perfect requires two time references, one after the other. So use of the perfect construction means that some time must have elapsed since the end of breakfast and now, and that that is significant (otherwise, why use the perfect?) So Breakfast has been over for hours or Breakfast has been over since 9 am would make sense, but not just *Breakfast has been over.

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  • Possible duplicate of How do the tens­es and as­pects in English cor­re­spond tem­po­ral­ly to one an­oth­er?

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  • @john I just looked up its meaning and found over is used here as adverb, but what type of adverb it is.

    – Kshitij Singh
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    @JohnLawler i would say that it does not need 2 time frames but it certainly implies that there are 2 events at hand, and that breakfast is over. Which it is

    – Carly
    yesterday











  • Compulsory reading: "How to identify the passive voice"

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What is the difference between the following two sentences.




Breakfast is over.



Breakfast has been over.




What does has been mean in the second sentence, is it in passive voice.










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    The first sentence is normal. The second requires more context. The perfect requires two time references, one after the other. So use of the perfect construction means that some time must have elapsed since the end of breakfast and now, and that that is significant (otherwise, why use the perfect?) So Breakfast has been over for hours or Breakfast has been over since 9 am would make sense, but not just *Breakfast has been over.

    – John Lawler
    yesterday













  • Possible duplicate of How do the tens­es and as­pects in English cor­re­spond tem­po­ral­ly to one an­oth­er?

    – choster
    yesterday











  • @john I just looked up its meaning and found over is used here as adverb, but what type of adverb it is.

    – Kshitij Singh
    yesterday






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    @JohnLawler i would say that it does not need 2 time frames but it certainly implies that there are 2 events at hand, and that breakfast is over. Which it is

    – Carly
    yesterday











  • Compulsory reading: "How to identify the passive voice"

    – RegDwigнt
    yesterday














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What is the difference between the following two sentences.




Breakfast is over.



Breakfast has been over.




What does has been mean in the second sentence, is it in passive voice.










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Breakfast is over.



Breakfast has been over.




What does has been mean in the second sentence, is it in passive voice.







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  • 6





    The first sentence is normal. The second requires more context. The perfect requires two time references, one after the other. So use of the perfect construction means that some time must have elapsed since the end of breakfast and now, and that that is significant (otherwise, why use the perfect?) So Breakfast has been over for hours or Breakfast has been over since 9 am would make sense, but not just *Breakfast has been over.

    – John Lawler
    yesterday













  • Possible duplicate of How do the tens­es and as­pects in English cor­re­spond tem­po­ral­ly to one an­oth­er?

    – choster
    yesterday











  • @john I just looked up its meaning and found over is used here as adverb, but what type of adverb it is.

    – Kshitij Singh
    yesterday






  • 1





    @JohnLawler i would say that it does not need 2 time frames but it certainly implies that there are 2 events at hand, and that breakfast is over. Which it is

    – Carly
    yesterday











  • Compulsory reading: "How to identify the passive voice"

    – RegDwigнt
    yesterday














  • 6





    The first sentence is normal. The second requires more context. The perfect requires two time references, one after the other. So use of the perfect construction means that some time must have elapsed since the end of breakfast and now, and that that is significant (otherwise, why use the perfect?) So Breakfast has been over for hours or Breakfast has been over since 9 am would make sense, but not just *Breakfast has been over.

    – John Lawler
    yesterday













  • Possible duplicate of How do the tens­es and as­pects in English cor­re­spond tem­po­ral­ly to one an­oth­er?

    – choster
    yesterday











  • @john I just looked up its meaning and found over is used here as adverb, but what type of adverb it is.

    – Kshitij Singh
    yesterday






  • 1





    @JohnLawler i would say that it does not need 2 time frames but it certainly implies that there are 2 events at hand, and that breakfast is over. Which it is

    – Carly
    yesterday











  • Compulsory reading: "How to identify the passive voice"

    – RegDwigнt
    yesterday








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The first sentence is normal. The second requires more context. The perfect requires two time references, one after the other. So use of the perfect construction means that some time must have elapsed since the end of breakfast and now, and that that is significant (otherwise, why use the perfect?) So Breakfast has been over for hours or Breakfast has been over since 9 am would make sense, but not just *Breakfast has been over.

– John Lawler
yesterday







The first sentence is normal. The second requires more context. The perfect requires two time references, one after the other. So use of the perfect construction means that some time must have elapsed since the end of breakfast and now, and that that is significant (otherwise, why use the perfect?) So Breakfast has been over for hours or Breakfast has been over since 9 am would make sense, but not just *Breakfast has been over.

– John Lawler
yesterday















Possible duplicate of How do the tens­es and as­pects in English cor­re­spond tem­po­ral­ly to one an­oth­er?

– choster
yesterday





Possible duplicate of How do the tens­es and as­pects in English cor­re­spond tem­po­ral­ly to one an­oth­er?

– choster
yesterday













@john I just looked up its meaning and found over is used here as adverb, but what type of adverb it is.

– Kshitij Singh
yesterday





@john I just looked up its meaning and found over is used here as adverb, but what type of adverb it is.

– Kshitij Singh
yesterday




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@JohnLawler i would say that it does not need 2 time frames but it certainly implies that there are 2 events at hand, and that breakfast is over. Which it is

– Carly
yesterday





@JohnLawler i would say that it does not need 2 time frames but it certainly implies that there are 2 events at hand, and that breakfast is over. Which it is

– Carly
yesterday













Compulsory reading: "How to identify the passive voice"

– RegDwigнt
yesterday





Compulsory reading: "How to identify the passive voice"

– RegDwigнt
yesterday










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"is" is the copula to be. Just know that in language "copulas" link things together, and the etymology comes from Latin for "to link" (think couple).




Breakfast <--link--> over.




Breakfast's over.



The only time you would modify a sentence to a fairly complex construction like the perfect tense is if you want to highlight that difference between the default and the constructed. The present perfect is used when "generally denoting something that took place prior to the present moment." Or in this case, that breakfast is simply over, versus that the time [tense!] since breakfast "became" over, which the speaker asserts was with certainty in the past.




Breakfast <-- link that occurred some time in the past --> over.




The "has" is there as the conjugated form of the helper verb "to have", and does not hold any semantic value beyond that function, I would say.



No, it is not in any specific voice (technically it is active, but not really).






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    "is" is the copula to be. Just know that in language "copulas" link things together, and the etymology comes from Latin for "to link" (think couple).




    Breakfast <--link--> over.




    Breakfast's over.



    The only time you would modify a sentence to a fairly complex construction like the perfect tense is if you want to highlight that difference between the default and the constructed. The present perfect is used when "generally denoting something that took place prior to the present moment." Or in this case, that breakfast is simply over, versus that the time [tense!] since breakfast "became" over, which the speaker asserts was with certainty in the past.




    Breakfast <-- link that occurred some time in the past --> over.




    The "has" is there as the conjugated form of the helper verb "to have", and does not hold any semantic value beyond that function, I would say.



    No, it is not in any specific voice (technically it is active, but not really).






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      "is" is the copula to be. Just know that in language "copulas" link things together, and the etymology comes from Latin for "to link" (think couple).




      Breakfast <--link--> over.




      Breakfast's over.



      The only time you would modify a sentence to a fairly complex construction like the perfect tense is if you want to highlight that difference between the default and the constructed. The present perfect is used when "generally denoting something that took place prior to the present moment." Or in this case, that breakfast is simply over, versus that the time [tense!] since breakfast "became" over, which the speaker asserts was with certainty in the past.




      Breakfast <-- link that occurred some time in the past --> over.




      The "has" is there as the conjugated form of the helper verb "to have", and does not hold any semantic value beyond that function, I would say.



      No, it is not in any specific voice (technically it is active, but not really).






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        "is" is the copula to be. Just know that in language "copulas" link things together, and the etymology comes from Latin for "to link" (think couple).




        Breakfast <--link--> over.




        Breakfast's over.



        The only time you would modify a sentence to a fairly complex construction like the perfect tense is if you want to highlight that difference between the default and the constructed. The present perfect is used when "generally denoting something that took place prior to the present moment." Or in this case, that breakfast is simply over, versus that the time [tense!] since breakfast "became" over, which the speaker asserts was with certainty in the past.




        Breakfast <-- link that occurred some time in the past --> over.




        The "has" is there as the conjugated form of the helper verb "to have", and does not hold any semantic value beyond that function, I would say.



        No, it is not in any specific voice (technically it is active, but not really).






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        "is" is the copula to be. Just know that in language "copulas" link things together, and the etymology comes from Latin for "to link" (think couple).




        Breakfast <--link--> over.




        Breakfast's over.



        The only time you would modify a sentence to a fairly complex construction like the perfect tense is if you want to highlight that difference between the default and the constructed. The present perfect is used when "generally denoting something that took place prior to the present moment." Or in this case, that breakfast is simply over, versus that the time [tense!] since breakfast "became" over, which the speaker asserts was with certainty in the past.




        Breakfast <-- link that occurred some time in the past --> over.




        The "has" is there as the conjugated form of the helper verb "to have", and does not hold any semantic value beyond that function, I would say.



        No, it is not in any specific voice (technically it is active, but not really).







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